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Interesting how the only two presidential candidates who showed any vision on US foreign policy were from opposite ends of the political spectrum...and, both were censored from earlier debates. Ron Paul, a libertarian, and Dennis Kucinich, a progressive, both want the US to close most of the 700 plus military bases we have in hundreds of countries

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  • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)lovemylibs
    lovemylibs
    March 5, 2008, 10:29 p.m.

    I respect both men for their political abilities. If they weren't just so darn goofy, they may have had a chance.

    • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)texangelwings
      texangelwings
      March 5, 2008, 10:59 p.m.

      That was well written, with so many good points! We must take our America back!

      The silencing of the voices of freedom and truth, is not the Democracy I have known. Ron Paul speaks the truth! It is the truth that scares the powers that be!

      Would Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich run on an independent ticket?

      Thanks Pop!

      • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)truthiness
        truthiness
        March 5, 2008, 11:23 p.m.

        well said.

        its been said before, and it'll be said again.

        it seem like more are saying it than ever before.. but still no real change has happened.

        Obama has become the symbol of change. another party hack, who says what people want to hear without offering any substantive difference.

        opportunity for real change had better come soon, or it will be brought in a way none of us who think things through want.

        It is time for a peaceful, legal revolution.

        It is time for a Constitutional Convention.

        • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Radiofreeeuropa
          Radiofreeeuropa
          March 6, 2008, midnight

          These men were defined as extremists and "outside of mainstream politics" by the media. The fact is both are men of great integrity. America needs a free press badly. Corporate ownership of media should be outlawed. Until the Reagan de-regulations, owners were allowed to only own 1 media in any given market. This deregulation allowed mega corporate views to have a monopoly pure and simple, the candidates General Electric, Westinghouse, Rupert Murdoch, etc. want are the candidates you will have!

          • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)AntiNeoCon
            AntiNeoCon
            March 6, 2008, 1:50 a.m.

            Honestly we can't close any bases as long as we are the "world police" we have to have cops on ever corner. Once we get into a country they are stuck with us indefinitely. Of course if we did try to close some of our bases the neocons would be up in arms complaining that we are unamerican.

            • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)doppich
              doppich
              March 6, 2008, 6:19 a.m.

              I remember Ari Fleischer's early news conferences where he talked about the "humble" foreign policy Bush was going to pursue. These two, though, do have a legislative history that suggests their spoken words are also their beliefs.

              • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Justice4All
                Justice4All
                March 6, 2008, 10:21 a.m.

                Ron Paul voted to demand an accounting of all money given to all countries. Israel did not want to comply and labeled him anti-semitic. That was the end of his chances.

                • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)TheRealizer
                  TheRealizer
                  March 6, 2008, 11:22 a.m.

                  It is late in the game, but we could start to reclaim the country by refusing to reelect incumbents to the bought and paid for congress.

                  Support whoever will run on a third party ticket, quit letting the MSM pick our elected officials!!!!

                  • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Truzseeker
                    Truzseeker
                    March 6, 2008, 1:08 p.m.

                    Any of the current clowns will continue frivolous and fruitless wars at the behest of another county. The bottom line is more money for the bankers and the contractors in this war based economy. Just where do you think the money for repayment is going to come from ? Right now this country is ripe for economic takeover by another country without firing a shot. Rome (Amerika) will burn again.

                    • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Jaydee40
                      Jaydee40
                      March 6, 2008, 2:28 p.m.

                      Frankly I believe that this is the best your style of government and in particular election procedure will provide, if you want better you must change the rules governing both government and elections.

                      • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)joeblowe
                        joeblowe
                        March 6, 2008, 3:10 p.m.

                        I can advise all where the problem is. It is NOT with those of us here keeping track of various positions and arguments on the internet who, (even the ones who are WRONG - like O'Bama supporters {;>D)=) at the very least have a CLUE what's going on. Many more who read the various posts that mention "The United States Constitution" and get curious enough to actually go and READ it, and gain an understanding of the various arguments, get sufficient information to become totally angry at how badly our country has strayed from our Constitutional Origins. Where the problem actually IS, is the much larger number of people who get their information from the MSM, listen ONLY to political sound bytes, haven't looked at a copy of the Constitution for YEARS, and don't EVER think about the future of this country in long range, overall terms.

                        • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)hhhhhhhhhhh
                          hhhhhhhhhhh
                          March 6, 2008, 5:41 p.m.

                          God is the foundation of evil !

                          • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)icono1
                            icono1
                            March 6, 2008, 6:49 p.m.

                            The intelligent, well studied and pragmatic candidates are not entertaining. In other words; they are boring.

                            With out an 'individual entertainment quote' that our so called top candidates exhibit the 'Corporate News Outlets' would loose market share, then advertising dollars would go down, down, down, which would mean the News industry would no longer make a vialable profit for their owners.

                            However IMHO, The US Constitution is a fascinating document, which is at best a difficult read. It forces one to 'think about what is written' and how the phraseology and definitions written 'then' can, if at all, apply today.

                            One consequence that 'studying and explaining the Constitution' to the avg US Voter can mean; is that in this world of instant catchy phrases and jingles for politicians, is that the US Constitution is something everyone that wants to be entertaining and therefore electable, strives to stay away from at all costs.

                            • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Pepko
                              Pepko
                              July 23, 2008, 1:40 a.m.

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