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The former head of the Democratic National Committee said Thursday it was doubtful DNC Chairman Howard Dean would be able to get approval for a plan for do-over presidential nomination contests in Florida and Michigan.

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  • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)slate
    slate
    March 7, 2008, 8:07 a.m.

    A do over? You have to be kidding me. What about those that voted and wouldn't be able to do so again, do their votes now not count? What about those that didn't think the first round was worthy of voting on but decide now to do so because of the history of it all and the 'power' welded in said vote?

    Look either do what you said and not use the delegates and take the high ground or take it to the mud pits and get dirty and steal the election and prove that you will do ANYTHING to get what you want. But a do over? OMG this isn't an elementary school parlor game.

    If it is decided to be done, I want the Hillary machine to pay the costs for the do overs.

    • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)kboy
      kboy
      March 7, 2008, 9:02 a.m.

      The rules were set by the Democratic Party and now that some of them recognize that they have stepped on themselves, it is their problem to sort out (and they have to pay for everything it will take to do it). It is time (unlike most political actions) to accept the consequences of their own actions and not put it on the backs of the middle class.

      • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)jumpmaster
        jumpmaster
        March 7, 2008, 9:46 a.m.

        Democrats aren't happy with any election in Florida even when it is their own primary.

        So what is the mantra now? Hillary stole the election?

        • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Albmore
          Albmore
          March 7, 2008, 11:10 a.m.

          Is this how the democrats plans to lead our nation. They cannot even abide by thier own party rules. Billary is getting nervous. This is the partz that is suppose to untite America? They cannot even untie half of it. Look at how many law suit exchanges there have been between Billary and Obama in the primary alone. What a joke.

          • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Albmore
            Albmore
            March 7, 2008, 11:10 a.m.

            Is this how the democrats plans to lead our nation. They cannot even abide by thier own party rules. Billary is getting nervous. This is the party that is suppose to untite America? They cannot even untie half of it. Look at how many law suit exchanges there have been between Billary and Obama in the primary alone. What a joke.

            • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Albmore
              Albmore
              March 7, 2008, 11:10 a.m.

              Is this how the democrats plans to lead our nation. They cannot even abide by thier own party rules. Billary is getting nervous. This is the party that is suppose to untite America? They cannot even untie half of it. Look at how many law suit exchanges there have been between Billary and Obama in the primary alone. What a joke.

              • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)jaern
                jaern
                March 7, 2008, 12:32 p.m.

                As a Michigan resident, I'm frustrated by this whole thing. The way I see it is after the presidential election of 2000 voters really don't have a say anyway. The super delegates will decide who the party candidate is regardless of whether mine and other statesmen's votes are counted in the primary elections or not. Our state cannot afford a "do-over" and nor should we pay for one. We made a stand that our voices should be heard earlier and we should not back down w/ a do-over primary or caucus. Howard Dean can go screw himself.

                • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)blueways
                  blueways
                  March 7, 2008, 1:17 p.m.

                  If the Democratic Party chooses to re do florida and michigan.. i am abandoning them.... they have betrayed the very foundation of fair play how do u set the rules and then break them???? . hillary is a whiney lil witch-If she is nominated I mayhave to vote mccain

                  • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Harbeas
                    Harbeas
                    March 7, 2008, 2:10 p.m.

                    No do over! The political process is already way beyond any reasonable or sane financial costs. We are making sure that only the rich can afford to run for office. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind. The government gives each bonafide candidate x number of dollars for their campaign. They should have to make do with that sum! That is all they can spend and no more. No donations of any kind can be accepted.

                    • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Wolfie2007
                      Wolfie2007
                      March 7, 2008, 2:32 p.m.

                      Hey, ani, this is really fun watching the democrats trying to be cool and act like they've got it all covered but in the background they're cracking up. Here is the best part, if the democrats are this shortsighted when it comes to their own party do you really think they are in any position to run the country. Judging by our 2006 democrat congress the answer is emphatically, NO.

                      • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Jaydee40
                        Jaydee40
                        March 7, 2008, 3:30 p.m.

                        I really don't think you could come up with worse or more complicated way to have an election, it's like it's made for being manipulated by the parties. Why not simple call an election and have it within 30 days and candidates can only spend x amount of dollars. All voting is done on one day except for those who will not be able to vote on that day and they have one day a week before.

                        • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)STronnes
                          STronnes
                          March 7, 2008, 3:44 p.m.

                          The DNC rules regarding the primary were decided a year and a half ago. All states knew about it and what the consequences would be, as did all the candidates. Michigan and, especially, Florida are crying foul. Too bad. They knew the rules and they knew the consequences when they decided to move their primaries. Rush Limbaugh and Karl Rove are on Hillary's side in this. So is the Republican Governor of Florida. It seems to me that Florida did not care if they disenfranchised Democratic voters in 2000, why should they care now, except that Republicans want to have Hillary as the nominee because they think she will be easier to beat in November.

                          • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)pc25
                            pc25
                            March 7, 2008, 4:15 p.m.

                            worry about your own country

                            • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)annoDomini
                              annoDomini
                              March 7, 2008, 4:33 p.m.

                              If Sens. Clinton and Obama really want to show how much they care about the voters of MI and FL, what they should do is agree to each kick in half the $ to hold valid primaries. Both of the campaigns have raised amazing amounts of $ in Feb - 35M for Clinton, 55M for Obama! - so paying for primaries in MI and FL would be only a small sum for them.

                              If I had to guess, I'd say that it will have no effect on the outcome of the race because both candidates are likely to garner about 50% of the delegates. You might think it would all just be a waste of money, but think about it:

                              * The DNC doesn't have to back down.

                              * The candidates get all the good will.

                              * The voters are heard.

                              * The delegations are accepted.

                              Sounds like a win, win, win, win...

                              • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)1-2-Oscar
                                1-2-Oscar
                                March 7, 2008, 5:35 p.m.

                                Regardless how the Florida and Michigan conundrum is resolved, if Hillary Clinton is the Democratic nominee I will sit this election out. I will NOT vote for her under any circumstances.

                                If Senator Clinton is elected President, I will have to seriously consider moving to another country (Costa Rica might do). I firmly believe that she is such an awful choice that the future of the nation will be immediately imperiled, and that the freedoms Americans have so long taken for granted will be destroyed. As bad as George W. Bush has been, I do not think e can survive a President who will compound and exaggerate every mistake Bush has made.

                                • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Howtogo
                                  Howtogo
                                  March 7, 2008, 6:57 p.m.

                                  Those two states should have a redo on the primaries. How ever the DNC should cover all costs related to the redo. It is not taxpayers responsibility to cover for the DNC mistakes.

                                  Of course the blacks will go craze if Obama loses because of those redo's.

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