Dead in the Water with a Broken Propeller »
Posted By Spadecaller 1 year, 8 months ago in NewsFor several weeks members at Propeller.com have endured a malfunctioning website with patience and fortitude. Despite the repeated promises from Propeller's management team, the problems of navigating the web pages at Propeller persist and the toll that it is taking on its membership is regrettable.
Read Full Story at freewebs.com »
513 Views Share Story 62 Comments Report
Submitted By:
Spadecaller
Welcome to my profile. About me: I'm an artist of several kinds; from bull to painting. I don't spare too many words. Most ...
Other Related Articles:
Why not submit a story?
RSS Join the Discussion
+ Add CommentShowing 237 of 314 Comments (view all)
-
Neutral
Spadecaller1 year, 8 months ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
Submitting a story of this nature could certainly trigger ill feelings and reprisals from Propeller's management towards me. However, my hopes of keeping the door open to participating on a functioning web site with friends that I have come to know is more important to me and I am willing to take that risk.
Reply-
Neutral
injest1 year, 8 months ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
Yep, true. I thought it was that "we no longer support X" you need to get Firefox or Flock. I did, both, still FUBAR.
I build my own computers so I have lots of computer "stuff" and several working computers.
Regardless of what computer or browser, Flock / Firefox same things along with "disconnected".
They really need to fix this, post don't go or multiple post show up, Longgggggggggggg delays from stories back to comments section.
If their intention was to pi55 people off they scored!
If not then their screwing the pooch
Reply -
Neutral
mesodude1 year, 8 months ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
Oh, phew... Between all the anti-Hillary attack noise stories, endless suggestions on how to drive my lover wild in bed (I'll try all of them tonight, for sure), Viagra spam, and invitations to view "upskirts"sites, I almost missed your submission. ;-P
Reply -
-
-
-
Neutral
not2needy1 year, 8 months ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
I have gotten some messages from friends who are no longer going to participate on Prop, or at least until the problem is fixed.
I have heard several different case scenerio's as to what the problem is. One being bandwidth, another being the construction on a New and Improved Propeller. Who knows which is true, or whether either of them is the case?
I love this community. That's pretty obvious, as much as i am here, and i certainly hate to see friends leave because of the problems that need fixing.
It's very discouraging.
Reply-
AlphaGnosisComment removed: Hard Banned
-
-
-
Neutral
Spadecaller1 year, 8 months ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
Yes, I would like to see this problem resolved, because like you, I believe there is so much meaningful dialog, good sharing, educations, and fun available here. At the same time, I believe this community deserves some honest and straightforward feedback. I think this entire issue could have been handled better without the loss of solid members.
Reply -
-
Neutral
Spadecaller1 year, 8 months ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
I just received a message from one friend that keeps getting virus messages from the site, but his scanners detect no viruses. He wanted to come here and post a comment, but now he first must check out his computer. This morning I have received several messages regarding this issue; that's what prompted me to finally post this article. It is quite frustrating trying to work around all these glitches.
Reply-
Neutral
not2needy1 year, 8 months ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
Another issue i would really love to see dealt with on a more timely basis is the porn spammers. I don't think i have submitted an article in the last couple of weeks that a porn spammer hasn't posted a message on my thread. Several of us have reported them, and they are still there, to date.... That is one thing that will definitely run me off, because that stuff is full of viruses, will eat your hard drive alive.
Reply -
-
-
Neutral
pagey1 year, 8 months ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
Sorry guys and girls I won't be on much today to contribute to this conversation, but things are being worked on as we speak, and things will be much better very shortly, I can't say too much more then that and it's not a cop out. I have spoken to a few one on one about all this, and agree and sympathize with you. I am also a regular user like the rest of you, submit,vote and comment and am dealing with the same issues. I wish I could give you a time line as to when things will be better but I can't, I can only say they will, sooner then later
Reply-
-
Neutral
ind061 year, 8 months ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
"things will be much better very shortly, I can't say too much more then that"
Well WHY THE HELL NOT?!
What? Is the state of Propeller some sort of OFFICIAL SECRET? It is just ABSOLUTE BS that you're keeping the community in the dark
AAAAUUUGHHH!!!
Reply
-
-
-
-
-
baddad59Comment removed: Retracted by user
-
-
-
Neutral
pagey1 year, 8 months ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
I have a big issue with people voting on spammy stories to the home page. A lot of these people are long time users, and I don't get why you would want that on YOUR homepage. We could all stop that from happening by not voting on it. We can't close a story if it has a bunch of "legit" votes. Right now I could probably pick out at least a half dozen of these stories.
Reply-
Neutral
Spadecaller1 year, 8 months ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
pagey:
Much of this indiscriminate voting will stop when and if we can began to navigate freely again. Waiting for pages to load can be so time consuming that many of us, including myself (at times) will just vote on a story because it is too damn tedious to wait for the story to load.
I don't like voting and supporting crap, but who has the patience to sift through all this nonsense? I sure don't! Sometimes I try to give the benefit of the doubt on some posters. Most of the regular spammy stories I ignore and just delete. BEfore we put the blame on the community for fostering junk stories, get this damn website up and working properly.
Right now, I have a list of perverts and spammers (most of whom are supposedly "removed" from the system), but they are piling up on my friends page repeatedly with the same stupid names.
I don't think this is the right time to start complaining about those of us who are trying to share legit stories.
Reply -
-
Neutral
gamahuche1 year, 8 months ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
We addresses this on propellertalk a while ago and it seemed like people reached some level of concensus to be less "generous" with votes for miscellaneous non-descript stories. [To be honest my private description of them would be a bit more 'colourful'].
But there seems to be a desire to be "nice" and perhaps the idea that there will be some quid pro quo..
Personally I've never felt rewarded by getting reciprocal attention from the frogspawn of spammers and the maxim of "Don't vote, don't encourage them, originally applied to politicians, serves well enough in this forum.
Reply -
Neutral
Mdiar1 year, 8 months ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
Idea. Why not include a rating system in the votes? That way perhaps things that are interesting and don't deserve an outright sink (say the current story about an 8 year old genius) yet hardly on the same level as the story about Michigan/Florida having a re-vote can be rated a 3 perhaps along with the vote and be made secondary to higher rated items that may have the same number of votes? If that made any sense. That might decrease the amount of spam on the homepage.
Reply -
Neutral
BronxBomber1 year, 8 months ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
Pagey, me,Gamahuche, and Sir Mozzer for example are doing our parts in that department, but why are negged, reported spams in post's taking so long to proliferate here and fester, and germinate here in the threads in Propeller? But you're right, people tend to vote w/o actually READING the article in question. They just do a 'flyby' vote, and that should be discouraged.
Reply
-
-
Neutral
gamahuche1 year, 8 months ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
Hi Spade!
Good for you that you bring this up = and I'm certain that you won't be persecuted for it by the management!
I especially think it was very important for many people to get the reality check that these are really systematic problems which we have all been suffering and not individual problems. I recently changed my internet service and that coincided with a particularly dour period but I assumed that my new system was the problem..
It is worrying if we are losing tried and true and trusty members!
Especially if we're getting more of the bogus fly-by-night flim-flammers in their place.
There are probably 100 people at least whom I have "met" on propeller whom I would really miss if they were to disappear - as since you are our host here today it is only proper that I affirm that you are one of them. I'm sure that many of the others know who they are. The other marvellous side of this world is also "meeting" people whom you never would/will in real life.
Reply-
Neutral
pagey1 year, 8 months ago
-
-
-
Neutral
STONERS1 year, 8 months ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
Spadecaller, I knew it would be you to submit this or Bkumm, lol!!! Well lets see where to start- I get many many messages a day asking whats going on with propeller, it can take me hours and NOW even longer to answer them back. And for the most part alot of them are asking me why arent the scouts and anchors answering them back, Im like heck I dont know, I myself can ONLY get 3 or 4 to answer me back out of all the ones that show up on shift. And before you guys say anything about its probably because they get so many spammers etc. well thats bull too because look how long Ive been a faithful member and I can only get 3 or 4 of you to answer me.
This needed to be brought up, this was a long time coming and I just dont have the time to waist sitting here waiting on this crap to work. Yes I know Ive been told its because all the Dev's are working on the new site well YOU SHOULDNT ABANDON the old one because you are loosing alot of members, continued.
Reply-
Neutral
STONERS1 year, 8 months ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
and alot of them are in the dark about this because they cant get a anchor or a scout to answer them back. I could go on and on and on about the problems here but I know at this point and time Im waisting my time AGAIN till the new site is up and running. So again I think without your members here (the traffic) you dont have a site so I think you guys need to get it together or start telling your members whats going on before you loose them all because to me if I didnt get any answers from the staff then I too would think the site was just $hitty and move on.
So I guess Im done for now we are expecting 15 inches of snow and it started this morning so now Im off to shovel my driveway. Good luck my friends and thanks Spadecaller for this submission and lets hope alot of members will get some answers after this. Everyone should share this story so it gets out there and seen and talked about, I will check back later on. Have fun, continue
Reply
-
-
Neutral
Spadecaller1 year, 8 months ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
Respecting the anonymity of the sender, this is one of several personal messages that I have received today in regards to this story. Apparently, some people don't even want to hassle with coming to the thread to post their comments.
"Buggy, slow and riddled with spammers and sock puppets. Reporting abuse and spammers has little to no effect. Top stories aren't given a picture with the story on some days. Other days they are. Comments are lost sometimes in a mysterious void. I don't know what's going on with Propeller. It's sometimes frustrating."
Every remark that this person made reflects my experiences as well.
Reply -
-
Neutral
gamahuche1 year, 8 months ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
Spadecaller: great that you posted this, and more power to your elbow!
I'm CERTAIN that this will not be an excommunicable offence.
The conditions are abnormal, no one from the management is trying to cover their asses and I believe that many of us have received assurances from individual members of the team, ones whom we "know and trust" in the vein of "We can't tell you exactly but it will be great"..
Its been awful - of course! Some people inevitably will have lost patience and for sure we will lose some friends. With luck they will miss us and check in once in a while and with luck will return, fresh from adventures elsewhere, with stories to tell and there'll be the pleasure of happy reunions! And some we'll lose and mourn.
And completely new ones will appear drawn by the buzzing of the shining new and fast-running propeller! And we survivors will be the MOST appreciative of all and you will run a marvellous 1000 comment thread about the BAD OLD DAYS!
Reply-
-
Neutral
gamahuche1 year, 8 months ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
P.S. This was my 2nd attempt to post, the first got lost, the good news is that this one says what I wanted to say MUCH better than the first one..
During the same time period my gf tried to post a new story and it timed out but we'll get back to that later..
I am also working on a story for propellertalk which will be seeking wide input and hope will be ready to post on Tuesday, depending also in part on my valiant comrades-in-arms!
Meanwhile expect something more from me here soon on behalf of my gf whose work cinditions do not allow her to talk directly about propellers in public..
I'll leave you with a phrase from the immortal Hunter S. Thompson: "When the going gets weird the weird turn pro".. He wasn't neccessarily thinking about pro=pellers.. But maybe he WAS already thinking about blasting off into space for his farewell trick.
Reply
-
-
Neutral
Spadecaller1 year, 8 months ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
Hey g... ha ha ha!
By the way, I have only been able to contact a small number of friends to notify them about this story. My friends list is not working. I cannot tell who is online and who is not. So, whatever help any of you can provide, I would appreciate it. It would be nice to keep this community alive through this ordeal. And for those who are trying to fix their computers to no avail...they might want to know about this!
Reply-
-
Neutral
Searchbeam1 year, 8 months ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
Spade,
I think the time has come for all of us to seriously start using RSS feeds. If our true friends create an RSS feed link to our pages, we can eliminate all this message-sending and heads-up alerts to our friends about our spanking new post!
That is where the world is headed now!
I have communicated my thoughts to James Marcus and he indicated that it was an interesting idea and he would be talking to his group about it.
Just so you guys know!
Reply
-
-
Neutral
RickyDawkins1 year, 8 months ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
I have been making do...
when it jams up, i check out other websites, or wait
when it works, i open multiple windows (5-10), and then go back and read them, when the next jam up occurs
i have noticed it recently got a bit better than last week (or three). i think its gonna be fine... (murphy was an optimist, too)
i hesitate to complain, (one of my more amiable traits?)... but certainly the website would be more enjoyable if i were able to navigate freely, without having to plan my clicks so carefully...
thanks sc, and good luck to all my fellow friends, propellerheads and scouts (and execs)
Reply-
opiczkaComment removed: Retracted by user11 Replies
-
-
Neutral
Mdiar1 year, 8 months ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
Spade thanks for the invite! You sent me a link to your website though so I couldn't get here until I found it! I agree, this is very annoying. I think I'm a bit better off then most of you, possibly due to a better system, a better connection or just plain old dumb luck! My Propeller jams up about every eight to nine hours and only for a few moments, for the most part! This spam is what is annoying for me, perhaps its the fifth horsemen of the Apocalypse and is heralding the end of times and the arrival of the other four? But truly I have over 139 unclaimed friends and that number was at 12 just a week ago! I can tell outright that several of them are the same person, even the avatars are obviously made by the same person! I just ignore the spam in my inbox and it eventually goes away. The porn spam is what is annoying to me, on the comments. Several times unwary users have given positives to this and its reported multiple times and doesn't go away! I think these are bots!
Reply -
Neutral
Bkumm1 year, 8 months ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
Some of the hangups and other things are annoying, but I think it has much more to do with them working on the new one much more than them (ah, the ubiquitous "them") not wanting to communicate with us.
My local grocery store is closing here in a couple of weeks and the staff is moving to a brand new store. They aren't fixing ANYTHING at the old store. The moving belts at check out don't work, the leak in the ceiling is still leaking and they have at least two broken registers. Why fix it when you're going to abandon it and move on? I think that's what's going on here.
So, I get a lot of solitaire played and I don't post or submit as much. No worries. It'll get fixed sooner or later.
Now, I'm off to my brother in law's birthday party. See you all later and have a FANTASTIC week-end!!!
Reply -
-
Neutral
texangelwings1 year, 8 months ago
-
-
-
-
coreyspringComment removed: Retracted by user4 Replies
-
Neutral
greenmac1 year, 8 months ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
This is the slowest site on the web as far as I am concerned. It takes the enjoyment of posting and turns it into frustrating endeavor. To have it go on so long can only mean one of two things.....the personnel in charge of maintaining the hardware/software is in need of outside assistance, or the site is awaiting shut down.
Reply-
Neutral
gamahuche1 year, 8 months ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
Think REBIRTH, greenmac!
The cup's half full, not half empty!
All that positive stuff..er, er..
I think Bkumm's comment was apposite.
They're working on tuning up the Rolls Royce and this old clunker is not worth the level of maintenance that would be necessary to really get it up to speed again.
Reply
-
-
-
-
Neutral
getreal11 year, 8 months ago
This comment is below the standard viewing threshold View It »
gamahuche Thank you. Your message was received and Yes, I have been experiencing a lot of problems, There will be friends listed and when i click it. I find no one on it. I'm going through my friends list now. There are a whole bunch wishing to get added and I know I'm not that easy. I think the site has been hacked or something. I accidentally clicked the wrong thing on a post and ended up on a porn site and could not get out. Had to cut my computer off by pulling the cord.
Reply -
-
Add a Comment
Sign In With Your Propeller Account
Please keep your comments relevant to this story.
To create a live link, simply type the URL (including http://) or email address and we will make it a live link for you. You can put up to 3 URLs in your comments. Line breaks and paragraphs are automatically converted — no need to use <p> or <br /> tags.