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Posted by: bobo-in-texas 1 year, 9 months agoSen. Barack Obama's pastor says blacks should not sing "God Bless America" but "God damn America." In addition to damning America, he told his congregation on the Sunday after Sept. 11, 2001 that the United States had brought on al Qaeda's attacks because of its own terrorism.
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bobo-in-texas
March 13, 2008, 11:47 a.m.God Damn America. A small window into an Obama Administration.
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Mutainia
March 13, 2008, 12:31 p.m.Gad, if this is true, no WONDER the Muslims and Liberals want Obama to win.
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HOUSEMD
March 13, 2008, 12:36 p.m.Surely Mr. Obama doesn't agree with this man's thoughts? Why would he stay there 20 years if he didn't support this man and these thoughts?
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SonOfTheMask
March 13, 2008, 12:38 p.m.You know, it's okay for that pastor to criticize America. No problem.
But God help you if you criticize the pastor for criticizing America. That's just racist. And divisive. And a personal attack. We'll have none of that in this here presidential campaign.
Nope, only anti-American rhetoric can bring us together. That's what Barack's mantra of hope and change is all about, folks. America is evil and must be changed and the hope is to change it into a paradise of isolationism, wealth redistribution, and political correctness. Yup.
...he makes the world taste good!
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Wolfie2007
March 13, 2008, 3:59 p.m.I can't wait to hear what the Obama campaign and the media have to say about this. Nice kettle of fish for them to sort out. LOL
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mesodude
March 13, 2008, 4:34 p.m.Does anyone know if Obama's dry cleaner has been interviewed yet? Just wondering... ;-x
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Bkumm
March 13, 2008, 4:41 p.m.He's a Muslim! His pastor hates America! His church is racist! He's the Candyman!! He's all flash and no substance!! Geraldine Ferraro is telling the truth!!!
Well, which is it? I've got family members who think that evolution is a conspiracy to go after Christians. I have family members who think that Black people are not equal to White people. I've got family members who believe we didn't land on the Moon.
Does that mean, by association, that I believe those things? Of course not.
Further, the pastor isn't all wrong. He's not all right either, but he's not all wrong. While the US did not bring 9/11 on ourselves, we aren't guiltless in it either. And for some Blacks, especially when this pastor was growing up, I'm certain that they often asked themselves why they should ask God to bless America. Dogs, water hoses and the story of Emmett Louis Till should remind us of that.
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pc25
March 13, 2008, 5:23 p.m.as far as I am concerned give him the pulpit and let him keep talking........he will sink Obama soon enough..........
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mesodude
March 13, 2008, 5:33 p.m.Son, no one is intimidated when you wingers use terms like "anti-American" or "treason" so please stop acting as if you people have the patriotism market covered. Ya don't. You're not the party of family values, you're not the party of limited government, you're not the party of fiscal responsibility, and you're sure as hell not the party of patriotism.
We both know that what's "anti-American" is in the eye of the beholder. I think bankrupting the US several times over for a war that's destroying our country is about as "anti-American" as it gets. I think spying on Americans and scaring them with lies, while trying to shield phone companies from lawsuits is very un-American. I also think constantly begging for tax cuts for the ultra-wealthy while fighting ferociously to prevent 10 million children from having health insurance is not only un-American--it's CRIMINAL. But that's just me...
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mozzer
March 13, 2008, 5:52 p.m.Damn, that was a tough read. I realize that Obama and the pastor are two separate people, but come on, he's been a member of the congregation for 20 years. How can Obama blithely dismiss Wright's inflammatory rhetoric?
I don't like this at all.
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greyslick
March 13, 2008, 6:46 p.m.No, but I heard his paperboy said some pretty mean stuff about the bully up the street.
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not2needy
March 13, 2008, 8:27 p.m.More propaganda eh BOBO?
Could this thread be because we have exposed here on Propeller today that the Bushies have been Moonies since Big Daddy Bush was in office, and probably long before that.
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/03/0...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqm9JLZ2Rz0&feat...
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not2needy
March 13, 2008, 8:31 p.m.http://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/122706.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QuDK5mmOvA
http://marc.perkel.com/archives/000272.html
Clean up your own trash before you start talking about someone elses.
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lum-chate
March 13, 2008, 8:35 p.m.I think this man could kill someone in cold blood in the middle of 5th AVE and still get his supporters to vote for him. Never have the news media given such favorable press to such a lightweight.
He's not ready for primetime and his bombastic flourishes are better suited for some kind of left leaning professor at an upscale university. His "Change crusade" sooner or later will be recognized for what it is and come to an abrupt end.
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not2needy
March 13, 2008, 8:39 p.m.http://wonkette.com/politics/2008/mitt-romneys-...
Then again there is the Magic Underwear worn by the Mormon's. Maybe that's cultish enough to serve your purposes.
Then you think you have the right to talk about someone elses faith.
I can only imagine what you all would do with the same information i have just provided you with. You all wouldn't ever get done talking about it. NEVER!
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tdash
March 13, 2008, 8:45 p.m....and I thought 9/11 happened because America tolerates gays and has legal abortion (at least according to the religious right). Sorry...my bad!!
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slate
March 13, 2008, 9:26 p.m.I don't think my Church is particularly controversial. Hehehehehe... Yeah right Obama, it's so melba toast.
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cushi
March 13, 2008, 9:45 p.m.Last time I checked, freedom of speech is still valid in this country. You may not like the way Rev. Wright has expressed his views, but there is undeniable truth in what he has said. this country, as a whole, is eaten up with hypocrisy!! We have done as much damage, and possibily more, than any other country on the planet! Rev. Wright's comments are brutal, to be sure, but they are not inaccurate.
God IS no respecter of persons, and that means that we (America) will reap what we sow, just like everybody else. You don't have to like it (I don't!), but it's still true.
As for Barack Obama, you are condemning him to guilt by association, and giving him NO credit for being the independent, critical thinker he is. I am no genius, but I can distinguish between what somebody else says and what I personally believe. I think Barack Obama is capable of doing the same, and there is nothing in the way he has conducted himself to indicate otherwise.
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icono1
March 13, 2008, 10:07 p.m.What better place to preach about hating the very country that gives you freedom of religion and speech than in church.
God would be proud of the obvious hypocrisy.
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VonDau
March 13, 2008, 10:08 p.m.FACTIOD:
Obama's rank-&-file, as well as the majority black U.S. population intend to "shame" the average anglo-saxon into voting for this otherwise unqualified interloper.
With regards to his pastor - remember, "The nut doesn't fall to far from the tree".
Actually, if I thought our country could (possibly) survive 4-years of this clown, I'd campaign for him! Indeed, perhaps that's what it will finally take to wake-up the Starbutts drinking, global-warming believing, kangaroo-rat extinction paranoid hypocrites of our once great nation.
Let's see how the lefties explain "Jimbo" Carter, ACT II.
Yep, four years of this guy is 'bout all it will take; that is, IF there is any America left to discuss.
Jaeger VonDau
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cushi
March 13, 2008, 10:32 p.m.It's so funny how anything that doesn't go along with your view of America you label anti-American! That is the problem the Pharisees and Saducees had with Jesus, they were so "righteous" and "holier than thou"....and they were also DEAD WRONG!! They didn't want to hear anything Jesus had to say because His views were UNPOPULAR, and BLASPHEMOUS, and TREASONOUS in their self important view!
He couldn't tell them ANYTHING: The more things change, the more they stay the same!
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svsjaml
March 13, 2008, 11:14 p.m.How is everyones comments moving away from the story of a pastor a supposed man of God not only damning the country he lives in and enjoys its freedoms but also the pastor and friend of Obama who if he didn't agree with this man why would he still be a member of his church. how does no one see obama as what he really is the anti christ read revelations and anyone can see for themselves Obama has a blanket thrown over the heads of America and we see the true man behind the mask but then it will be too late.
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enorton42
March 13, 2008, 11:15 p.m.Well 1st "O-Slama's" wife said she was only NOW proud to be an American but now their pastor says DAMN America! And all these blind people are trying to make him President? Osama for VP?!
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VonDau
March 13, 2008, 11:41 p.m.Oooooh ... (full-body-stretch) ... (yawn).
Time for some entertainment, ...
"SAM-BO-BAMA"
This should keep the politically-correct crowd busy for a few minutes.
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cushi
March 13, 2008, 11:54 p.m.Love isn't closing your eyes to problems. It's opening your eyes and dealing with them.
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jordan11
March 14, 2008, 12:43 a.m.Hell, BooBoo, Falwell & the rest of your CON pal's religious wacko friends said the same thing. So what's your point?
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NoWayMan
March 14, 2008, 1:03 a.m.if Obama had said those things there might be a point here.
Obama is not his pastor.
here's a story about Bush's old minister who has endorsed Obama for president:
http://www.ketknbc.com/home/ticker/13933882.html
according to bobo's logic, if Bush's old minister says Obama should be the next president, then Bush must also be thinking the same thing.
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DrBenway
March 14, 2008, 1:28 a.m.Ah, well. After reading all these post from these small-minded men and women, it's just nice to know that in November they're going to have to suck in their bile and call Obama "president".
Because, remember... for seven years they've screamed and yelled about how you can't say anything bad about a sitting president? I wonder if they're going to be the same way when Obama is in the Oval Office and not Bush?
Methinks not.
Ah, that's going to be a good day, and ... my friends... it's coming. Because the more they open their lily-livered mouths, the more they show their true colors.
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motivator911
March 14, 2008, 2:42 a.m.lol the truth about to come out the closer we get to the election the more his true colours will shine and here we see where he gets his anti American attributes turning his back to our flag his wife for the first time in her life proud to be American his staff sporting cuban flags in her office his ties to felons yea thats who I want running my country well my friends he is going down its just a matter of time before barrack hussien obama's true colours shine thru. the press will realize the notoriety is wearing off and will have to do something to sell the news and will dig. hell look what they found already without even trying roflmao no it isn't that he is black by the way dont tell no one yet but he is half white it is his lack of exsperience and the extreemley poor job he has done as a senator oh yea he's a closet muslim to and I am pretty sure he's a closet racist. if we wanted a minority we should of went for condaliza rice very inteligent and American.
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Grrr
March 14, 2008, 3:30 a.m.I fail to see what's so inflammatory about pointing out the obvious deficiencies and injustices and hypocrisy in US policies. The Rev. is right. We did and do that stuff. He seems pretty mild, rhetoric-wise, compared to the CON jobs around here.
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smartsweetheart
March 14, 2008, 5:46 a.m.Might be that what shines through here can develope into a fatal coalition between islamic fundamentalists and those among the black Americans who feel discriminated and experience themselves as not being part of the American Dream.
Apart from that, I think, it is high time, not only for America, but for the whole western world, to rethink Huntington´s theses of a "Clash of Civilizations" and start to ask where all this hate comes from.
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bertly
March 14, 2008, 5:53 a.m.It seems that this may be guilt by association. His Wife has uttered and repeated hate America comments in the recent past. The Obama campaign has blocked public access to her masters thesis for some reason. All others are available for public viewing at her former college website. I see a pattern here. This guy is just a little too slick for me. The media love him and that alone makes me nervous."You are judged by the company you keep"
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staar
March 14, 2008, 6:47 a.m.I totally agree with you bertly..something is off here, and believe me I'm not the paranoid/it's a conspiracy type of gal..not by any stretch of the imagination..I've said from the start that he is running a cult like campaign..I have to follow my gut here..I found the story about his preacher very disturbing..
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Bacalao
March 14, 2008, 6:48 a.m.Here is my take. I have many friends that I love and trust. quite a few of those if not most hold ideas that are contrary to the beliefs that I hold close and dear. Our disagreements range from politics and religion to the war , drugs, and gun control. The only thing I disallow is racism. Should I disown my friends who disagree with me? Or should I keep them close and try to help them see what I think is right? Should I be held accountable for their ideas even though I may disagree with them?
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ssdematt
March 14, 2008, 7:49 a.m.The pastor does not hate America- he is criticizing the U.S. for the horrible things our leaders have perpetrated in our names- We have allowed the politicians to take away our power- we are NOT the "freest in the world" Far from it. We must take back our power and start controlling the country ourselves- our "representatives" cannot be trusted ANY LONGER!!!!!
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bill2936
March 14, 2008, 9:20 a.m.Interesting how the same ones saying that Obama need to get a pass on the fact that his preacher is a racist; are the same people that were hammerring and calling for more investigation into Romney being a Morman. Interesting.
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silverbear69
March 14, 2008, 9:22 a.m.And to think the r4est of America thinks its Ok to put this man into the white house. If Hillary doesnt win I say the rest of us vote for McCain or this muslim will ruin our country
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joeblowe
March 14, 2008, 9:59 a.m.Considering that audio of this nutjob preacher ranting AGAINST the U.S. has been aired, it seems to me that the only thing Barry can rationally do (if he hopes to stay in the race) is to A) claim he was NEVER present when the guy said anything remotely LIKE this, and B) get a new church IMMEDIATELY and put as much distance between himself and this guy as possible, as quickly as possible. Seriously, this ain't going to play well in Peoria. And I grew up near Peoria, so I should know...
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foxyladi14
March 14, 2008, 10:24 a.m.thank you gridcords you said it all
god bless america and our troops
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jumpmaster
March 14, 2008, 10:40 a.m.BO's twenty year affiliation with this racist pastor gives me deeper insight into where Barry's heart really is. He can talk all he wants, but now I have a deeper understanding of who he really is.
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bill2936
March 14, 2008, 11:01 a.m.Obama's preachers sop hates the US, well there are 7 new openings in this country, he can go there:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,337813,00.html
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Leemck02
March 14, 2008, 11:09 a.m.Rush to judgment, beware. How many times have we heard a sensational line only to find out in context there as a valid message. Wait until you heard the whole message, then judge. Many a sermon had a line with shock value, that made a hard to deny point. I know many members who stay with their church, because on average, the messages are not extreme. Dr. King he wasn't flattering on America for its inhumanity and the especially the War (remember Gen Westmoreland). Don't act dumb on a oneliner, we invaded Iraq on a lie; Blacks have memories of Jim Crow laws, Greenwood, Rosewood, Gov Tuskegee Experiments (no not the Airman, live syphilis injections). Understand history from the Black prospective and appreciate Obama's will to develop character as well as prepare to heal the nation, that's worth being open minded to. Fear not, Black Folk are walking around looking for revenge, rather to fix the problem. Segregation was in my lifetime; today, I am not sure we earned a gold star.
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greg-calvino
March 14, 2008, 11:47 a.m.Nothing is wrong with asking or proclaiming God's Blessing, but shouldn't we move towards something along the lines of "America Bless God!"
Greg Calvino
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agentX
March 14, 2008, 12:45 p.m.It's funny that you crazy conservatives and morons wanna harp on this guy for speaking an inconvenient truth about America's involvement in the Middle East pre-9/11 (though I would said incompetence, not terrorism). Did all of you forget "Bin Ladin determined to strike in US?" Do you read Maxim Magazine or watch Nightline? They were predicting an attack months before it happened.
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agentX
March 14, 2008, 12:49 p.m.So before you harp on this guy, deal with the preachers in your own camp. Like this guy
http://religion.propeller.com/story/2008/03/13/...
and this guy
http://religion.propeller.com/story/2008/03/13/...
this too
http://religion.propeller.com/story/2008/03/14/...
and John McCain's recent endorsement.
http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/03/13/...
oh and him too
http://religion.propeller.com/story/2008/03/11/...
and this too
http://religion.propeller.com/story/2008/03/13/...
Now if this guy was spewing filth, why are white people attending his church?
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Commodore1
March 14, 2008, 2:03 p.m.It sounds like the "pastor" would be happy in Iran or Afghanistan. Perpetuating hate certainly doesn't help the situations here in America. Let's hope that retirement date comes soon.
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jumpmaster
March 14, 2008, 4:34 p.m.FTA:
"The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America."
I thought the three strikes law was developed on behalf of victims like Polly Klaas, the little white girl who was kidnapped and murderered by white man Richard Allen Davis. Jeremiah seems to think that Davis was a black guy on crack.
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slate
March 14, 2008, 7:11 p.m.Let's see, there are people on here that say we are making something out of nothing. If that's the case, then why has Obama put out a press release strongly denouncing his friends words?
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Mutainia
March 15, 2008, 1:34 a.m.Well, I heard and saw obama's preacher preaching on YouTube. He may sound stupid, Jihadist, and racist toward whites, but, he's not boring. His delivery is very theatric and fiery, quite charasmatic and angry. I mean, no matter HOW crazy and stupid he may sound, you can't help but feel exhilerated, as if you'd almost want to MARCH to it. I can see why Obama would have him as a mentor, especially if he wasn't paying attention to the racially divisive rhetoric someone like Farakhan or a Muslim Jihadist would be proud of. I mean, no WONDER the Muslims want Obama as the next President. Perhaps they will get their wish?
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Thrasherguy05
March 28, 2008, 1:49 p.m.ok lets just set the story straight, obamas pastor is a retard. first he hates italians now its god dan america, and now he only wants blacks to sing it. this man is racist and he obviously is just looking for attention. we didnt hear anything about him before now. why all of a sudden do people care what Obamas pastor has to say ?? its not like Obama formed his campaign around what this old pastor has to say.
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Mutainia
Nov. 27, 2009, 1:55 p.m.I'm just commenting to see if I can call this story up again when it's archived.
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