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Posted By not2needy 1 year, 8 months ago in Business & Finance

Stocks tumbled Thursday morning as investors recoiled following a further decline in the dollar, spikes in gold and oil prices and a warning that a Carlyle Group fund is near collapse. The major indexes each lost more than 1 percent; the Dow Jones industrial average at times fell more than 200 points.

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    not2needy1 year, 8 months ago

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    FTA:

    Investors were also getting their first look at a plan outlined by Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson to provide stronger regulatory oversight of mortgage lenders, whose lax standards are blamed for touching off the concerns about souring debt that have led to turmoil in the credit markets.

    But talk of regulatory changes appeared to do little to dislodge the glum mood on Wall Street. A government report showing that retail sales fell in February rather than increasing as had been expected only added to investors' worries.

    I think i will hold onto the gold i have! This is scary as hell.

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      GHOSTWHOWALKS1 year, 8 months ago

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      Yep and from the look of things we're headed in the wrong direction. Time to do a little gold panning.

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        jordan111 year, 8 months ago

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        Wish I'd bought gold a while back. sigh. I'll bet bush & co own a large chunk.

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          RedRiverJ1 year, 8 months ago

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          Maybe we need to melt down some old jewelry??????

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            not2needy1 year, 8 months ago

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            Hang onto that gold jewelry, whether you melt it down or not, it's still valuable.

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        mark-stevens1 year, 8 months ago

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        It's this simple... the Mexicans that the democrats are encouraging to come to the U.S. to build houses so they could by one ,were cheated by the banks the republicans get campaign funds from. Throw in the plain old fashion criminal conduct on cheating people and that is our economy today.

        Greenspan told congress two years ago this was coming... in which no one listened.

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        texangelwings1 year, 8 months ago

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        This really bad news for the dollar!

        Thanks not2needy!

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          bluetexasvalley1 year, 8 months ago

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          So sorry to hear that about the Carlyle Group. /sarcasm off ;-)

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            not2needy1 year, 8 months ago

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            Yeah, kinda makes you want to send donations, NOT!! ~~~~

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              Dionys1 year, 8 months ago

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              What makes you think it's a bad thing for Carlyle? They can use it, write it off, and end up making a larger profit by doing so. Who do you think will *really* lose out?

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                quackpot1 year, 8 months ago

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                The Banks have no problems. Bernake is planning on giving them $200 billion (about $2,500/family of four of our money) in exchange for their worthless paper.

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              jovial1 year, 8 months ago

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              Remember all those stories submitted by conservatives on how good the economy was under Bush. More mass deception. They would also like you to believe things are better in Iraq as well. Keep your eye on gold and the value of the dollar. Those are key factors in determining where the economy is headed. I would say oil too, but that price is being manipulated. So oil prices are not too dependable as a gauge. The oil companies are taking less profit on a barrel as a favor to this administration until the election is over in November. The spike you see now is unavoidable, but we are still geting a break in the price. My prediction is that gas will be $5.00 a gal by Dec '08 or no later than Mar'08. Gold will continue to climb. The dollar will fall some more depending on how much money Bernanke throws at the economy over the next few months. BTW, get rid of those gas-guzzling SUV's now while you still have a chance.

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                not2needy1 year, 8 months ago

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                Apparently everything they do is a form of mass deception, i have another thread on the front page regarding the Bush connection to Rev Moon, the joke from the 70's.

                Read the links provided by jordan11, it will scare the hell out of you..

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                jannra1 year, 8 months ago

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                I totally agree with you about the oil companies backing off (a bit) on profits to do this administration a favor until the election. (Of course Exxon-Mobile is still raking the highest corporate profits in the history of corporate profits each quarter!) They also did it back in 2004 before Bush's re-election and again in 2006 before the midterm elections so it would appear that he was handling the situation. But of course the price of each oil barrel has continued to rise, and rise, and rise again. Obviously he hasn't "handled" a damn thing except create the war that's causing the higher prices in the 1st place! But if a Democratic candidate wins the presidency in Nov, you can be sure the oil companies will shoot those prices up sky high and everyone will blame the "new administration." And history will record it as the administration's 1st failure, or possibly triumph, IF they can vote to put the oil conglomerates down a notch or two...

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                  not2needy1 year, 8 months ago

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                  The Bushies are oil people, they are getting their piece of the pie, and they could care less about doing any favors because they are on their way out! They got the prices lowered in 2004 for political reasons, unbeknown to the public, as soon as the election was over, they were going to put the screws to us BIG TIME, and prices went even higher.

                  Forfeiting profits now would be like cutting their noses off to spite their proverbial faces, they still have a little over 8 months to rake in the profits, and bilk the country some more.

                  Don't misunderstand, i know a lot of this falls on Exxon, but yet again, the Bushies are OIL PEOPLE, they are getting thier share of those billions of dollars of profit every quarter.

                  All the while, the price of oil in Iran is 40 cents a gallon.

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                    HannibalBarca1 year, 8 months ago

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                    Don't forget about "no bid contracts". hallibortion and dickless cheney

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                  dwemm1 year, 8 months ago

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                  jovial, yes I do. The party went on here for days when the Dow hit 14000 last spring. You can always tell where the gettings good because the fat rats will head there first.

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                  Charlson1 year, 8 months ago

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                  Swoon? Head over heels swoon? Or was that swish, swoon?

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                    Bruedaddy1 year, 8 months ago

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                    more like a choking vomit swoon..sounding thingy

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                      not2needy1 year, 8 months ago

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                      For real!

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                    joeblowe1 year, 8 months ago

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                    I can point right straight at ONE of the problems: The damned media. A headline right here on Netscape: "Retail Sales Plunge .6%" Now I have to ask, who in the hell is it that thinks a decline of 6 TENTHS of ONE percent is a PLUNGE? SOMEONE is a total freaking IDIOT. No, wait, NOT an idiot. More like a MORON. It would take years of hard study for the author of that headline to be promoted to "idiot." SIX TENTHS OF ONE PERCENT? A PLUNGE? Jesus Hornblower Christ! To put that into perspective, if you had $100.00 and suffered a "olunge" of .6% of your holdings, you would "only" have $ 99.40. Not even ONE full percentage, and that's a PLUNGE? The media needs to STOP with the damned sensationalizing of EVERY stinking story and just REPORT the news, not try to pump it up so that it SEEMS significant.

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                      jovial1 year, 8 months ago

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                      If you are talking about 20 billion dollars the .6% becomes much more significant, or let's say 200 billion dollars. Then .6% equals about 120 million or in the latter case 1.2 billion dollars. When they talk about money on the stock exchange it's not in everyday terms that most people are used to. If all they lost was .6% of a hundred dollars I'm pretty sure (you would be right) it would be insignificant.

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                        joeblowe1 year, 8 months ago

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                        You can multiply the raw dollars anyway you want. The PERCENTAGE remains the same, and I'll stick with my position: 6 tenths of one percent is NOT a "plunge." Not even close to it. And, let's face it, if YOU had 200 Billion dollars and were to LOSE .6% on any given market day, YOU PROBABLY WOULDN'T EVEN NOTICE. It's still a VERY small percentage of your total holdings. Just as .6% of retail sales is STILL a very small percent. Hell, I only WISH my 401K had only lost .6% the last few months.

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                          not2needy1 year, 8 months ago

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                          People who have that kind of money notice every penny, how do you think they amassed the money they have? GRUBBING, PENNY PINCHING, GREED! .6% is a big deal to people like that.

                          Like me, you think in terms of hundreds, maybe thousands, they think in terms of millions and billions, .6% is a big deal and they miss it, believe me.

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                            jovial1 year, 8 months ago

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                            Look at it from this graph.

                            http://bp2.blogger.com/_pMscxxELHEg/R9lEUrWRZFI...

                            Hasn't been that low since the recession of '01-'02

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                              Beau78901 year, 8 months ago

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                              Dude.

                              It's 0.6% from last month. That's 7.2% over a year.

                              It's a plunge.

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                                quackpot1 year, 8 months ago

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                                And, compared to the 0.4% gain in January, it is a drop from where the economy should be of about 12%/year. Yep, a plunge

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                                  joeblowe1 year, 8 months ago

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                                  It's only a plunge if it CONTINUES for a year - THEN it's 7.2%. Right now, it's still ONLY .6%

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                            buckheadd1 year, 8 months ago

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                            VELL i am just glad i as as rich as SUPERB. i got 13000000000000 bazillion dollas. how mcuh u got guyz?Z????? and btw i c some LUV LUV LUV LUV LUV IN DA AIR

                            BEAU7890 HAS A HUGE CRUSH ON JOVIAL!!!!...

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                              bruhaha1 year, 8 months ago

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                              Greenspan said that there was no problem and urged the policies that led to this mess. Any claim otherwise is nothing other that Greenspan trying to re-write history.

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                                bal22681 year, 7 months ago

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                                I think tomorrow may be gold falls and dollar jumps

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