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Those who seek to discredit Barack Obama by bashing his former pastor are not just attacking the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., they are attacking Trinity United Church of Christ and its highly successful ministry. On Palm Sunday, the Trinity community responded with a statement issued by the Chicago church's current pastor, the Rev. Otis Moss III

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  • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Beau7890
    Beau7890
    March 16, 2008, 9:34 p.m.

    From the TUCC's statement by current Rev. Otis Moss III:

    "Trinity United Church of Christ's ministry is inclusive and global. The following ministries have been developed under Dr. Wright's ministerial tutelage for social justice: assisted living facilities for senior citizens, day care for children, pastoral care and counseling, health care, ministries for persons living with HIV/AIDS, hospice training, prison ministry, scholarships for thousands of students to attend historically black colleges, youth ministries, tutorial and computer programs, a church library, domestic violence programs and scholarships and fellowships for women and men attending seminary."

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    Does anyone have a problem with these accomplishments of the church? Is there anything here that diminishes anyone who is not black?

    • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)jordan11
      jordan11
      March 16, 2008, 10:18 p.m.

      My best advise for those who are sick of this, is to turn off the media and notify the companies who advertise with them you won't be buying their products. If this were done en mass, all the nonsense would cease.

      • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)not2needy
        not2needy
        March 16, 2008, 11:05 p.m.

        Would any of the protestors have wanted to attend this church? I doubt if the protestors attend any church, or have an affiliation period.

        Some people are just so filled with hate, they have to find someone new to hate regularly.

        I find nothing wrong with what this church has done for their community. God knows, there was certainly no agencies going to go into those communities and do what this church has. I guess it's wrong that they didn't stay as oppressed as some would have liked!

        • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)cherev
          cherev
          March 17, 2008, 4:05 a.m.

          "Nearly three weeks before the 40th commemorative anniversary of the murder of the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., the Reverend Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr.'s character is being assassinated in the public sphere because he has preached a social gospel on behalf of oppressed women, children and men in America and around the globe."

          Linking Dr. King and Wright's Jew-hating, America-bashing statements. And the libbies line up to justify it. What a shock!!!

          • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)kboy
            kboy
            March 17, 2008, 9:11 a.m.

            Hitler also did well by some people at the expense of other people. Someone that claims to be a uniter cannot support a divider. Maybe it is time to have public disclosure of all religions that are bigoted against one group or another. Preaching hate is a terrible thing.

            • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)nostalgia
              nostalgia
              March 17, 2008, 9:38 a.m.

              To understand Dr Wright you need to read about Black Liberation Theology. Black Liberation Theology started with Jim Cone and Dwight Hopkins. The writing of these men is what Wright follows

              Some of it is very controversial NOTICE I said "SOME"

              • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)DropkickaLib
                DropkickaLib
                March 17, 2008, 1:05 p.m.

                I don't know why you posted a question to me under someone else's thread. Wright was the pastor for decades so this qualifies as political damage control. I have never heard any white person suggest that whites invented addictive drugs to enslave blacks. No one who isn't wearing a straight jacket should be saying anything like that.

                • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)DropkickaLib
                  DropkickaLib
                  March 17, 2008, 12:04 p.m.

                  Any form of worship that segregates people according to race is wrong.

                  • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)moxxxxxxxxxx
                    moxxxxxxxxxx
                    March 17, 2008, 12:26 p.m.

                    THE GENERATIONAL GAP SHOWS ITS UGLY HEAD AGAIN

                    Rev Wright's agenda sets America back 40 years. He represents the generation gap in American. People over 50 lived the experiences he preaches against. Young people have different life experiences. He fails to take into account the many successes of black Americans. Wright's sermons only oppress the very people he is trying to uplift. Obama is a young educated man who understands the needs of all Americans. ALL OF US have older people in our lives who can't get beyond their lfe experiences and keep trying to teach us about how "bad" things were. But we respectfully listen and understand their history rather than guide our lives by their expectations. Try telling your grandma who lived through the Great Depression she's crazy for hoarding everything.

                    • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Commodore1
                      Commodore1
                      March 17, 2008, 12:31 p.m.

                      Well he is using a church to spread hate and I think that is one of the most arrogant and terrible things a person can do. So the church may suffer the consequences for his actions. I think they eject him from the church and put someone in there who is less of a big mouth. I don't like him and disagree completely w/what he says. I think he would make a great psycho Muslim and he should go to Iran or someplace like that and be one. To me he's nothing better than a loud mouth chump.

                      • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)DropkickaLib
                        DropkickaLib
                        March 17, 2008, 12:56 p.m.

                        That's not the whole story and you know it. You are not telling the truth. You can't tell me that anyone who spouts Wright's rhetoric would make his church appeal to whites. That's ignorant. Play the race card elsewhere. Give me a break.

                        • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)DropkickaLib
                          DropkickaLib
                          March 17, 2008, 12:57 p.m.

                          Don't worry about it. The rest of it didn't make any sense either.

                          • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)DropkickaLib
                            DropkickaLib
                            March 17, 2008, 12:58 p.m.

                            I gave examples as well as a site to see the videos. I led you to the water and the rest is up to you.

                            • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)DropkickaLib
                              DropkickaLib
                              March 17, 2008, 1:32 p.m.

                              Plus Wright's adaptation of Marxist Liberation Theology to the black experience and adding a veneer of religion is reprehensible.

                              • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)DropkickaLib
                                DropkickaLib
                                March 17, 2008, 1:09 p.m.

                                Liar! If I choose to sit in a church where the pastor spouts off that kind of rhetoric, I am tacitly endorsing that position. Sermons containing rhetoric like that are not spiritually edifying and I would have to wonder about anyone who feeds not only his or her mind, but his or her spirit, that kind of poison.

                                • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Mutainia
                                  Mutainia
                                  March 17, 2008, 2:38 p.m.

                                  Supposedly, Wright is a moderate when it comes to this sort of preaching in the Black community. Being so the case, I can understand why so many blacks are switching to Islam now. Apparently, the "Nation of Islam" is just another black church, but, one that talks more about the Quran more than the Bible.

                                  • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)automan909
                                    automan909
                                    March 17, 2008, 3:07 p.m.

                                    So far as Obama not being in the church when those things were said, It just came out that a reporter was in a sermon in that church during one of those racist sermons and was sitting right down from guess who? Thats right...Obama.

                                    Now that qualifies Obama as a bare faced liar.

                                    Even without the witness that saw him there, I sure wouldn't want him as my president if he is so stupid not to know the racist views and goings on over a 20 year period.

                                    Liar liar pants on fire

                                    • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)automan909
                                      automan909
                                      March 17, 2008, 3:22 p.m.

                                      Put a fork in him... He's done

                                      • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Albmore
                                        Albmore
                                        March 17, 2008, 3:24 p.m.

                                        There are two mistakes being made here. Fisrt calling this place a church. They do not teach what the bible says, 2nd they honored Farrakan who is one of the biggest anti Jew/ Islamic spreading characters in the US. A Christian Church does not help spread the teachings of Islam.

                                        The 2nd would be calling this man who is so full of hate and racism a Christian. Yes maybe the church does social work, so does the Red Cross, But the Red Cross dont preach hate messages.

                                        I was a supporter of Obama for the dems til now. I did have my doubts on this subject though. I am glad it has come out and was reported. Not to confuse anyone I will never vote for Hillary! Amazing how the true racist characters have came out on both side on this democratic race. This and the fact that they are unable to even run there election correctly should show many the change they promise is worse than what we have now.

                                        • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)NVRob
                                          NVRob
                                          March 17, 2008, 3:30 p.m.

                                          Obama may not have given the sermon in question, or use that type of rhetoric, but he certainly didn't speak out against it.

                                          Unless, maybe this rhetoric only happened that one time when Obama missed church.

                                          I've been going to the same bar every Friday night now for twenty years. They play the same music week after week and I can't stand it, I don't drink, and I can't stand being around drunks.

                                          Makes a lot of sense huh?

                                          • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)BB64
                                            BB64
                                            March 17, 2008, 3:30 p.m.

                                            So if I were to preach the same materials he uses but reversing black for white, I would be labeled a racist, a hate monger and I'm sure much worse. Why is it when someone black preached hate it's acceptable? I don't care if you're white, black purple or pink, hate is hate and you should be treated as a racist is you're a racist.

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