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Posted By JamesMarcus 1 year, 7 months ago in NewsVice President Dick Cheney opened a new U.S. push for political unity in Iraq on an unannounced visit Monday, just ahead of the fifth anniversary of the U.S.-led invasion. Cheney landed at Baghdad International Airport, then flew by helicopter into the dusty, heavily secured Green Zone.
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browntiger1 year, 7 months ago
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nikkibabe1 year, 7 months ago
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Here is the difference.
Iranian President visited Iraq with his plans known weeks in advance. He drove in a regular sedan from Airport, was accorded a guard of honor by Iraqi troops and children presented him with flowers.
These American Congressmen & Bush/Cheney have to go there unannounced and in secrecy, get holed up in military protected green zone, meet only US military and Iraqi politicians. All this in a 24 hour period. Bush does not even venture to go to the green zone. He lands in a secluded desert air base and takes off.
All this with ordinary Iraqi people living without electricity, drinking water, most of the schools and markets bombed and destroyed.
Does someone see a tragedy here?
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djrevelky1 year, 7 months ago
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And here comes the irony...
The Iraqi people would have electricity, water, and functioning markets and schools IF the Iranian President would quit arming opposition groups!
Could he have been greeted by the Iraqi's that he is arming and helping to kill Americans and their fellow Iraqis? Probably.
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vor1 year, 7 months ago
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The "Master of the World" has set out on a peacekeeping mission. Could anything be more contradictory?
Cheney must see Iraq as a total disaster, we should have been finished here 5 years ago and in Cheney's vision been somewhere in the Phillipines cleaning up the last of the Islamic vermin by now. But so much for plans! What a disgrace he is...and he is the one they select to talk about reconciliation? What a p-ss poor role model!
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gamahuche1 year, 7 months ago
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I was intrigued that he would make a family outing of it, bringing wife and daughter with him.
I guess the guys who were going along to bang heads together travelled by an alternative route, perhaps one of those "secret" rendition flights and doing a little work along the way.
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crespi1 year, 7 months ago
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He must teach them in the ways and evil manipulations of the the UNITARY EXECUTIVE.
BLOODLINE is THE MOST IMPORTANT THING to them, in aristocracy, in Eugenics, and in cross generational malfeasance.
Even if one rogue daughter has gone gay, Cheney MUST SHOW STRENGTH AND "UNITY."
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nikkibabe1 year, 7 months ago
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Quote:
"Here is the difference, Iran is funding and arming terrorists and, according to your account its president used a shield of children as well as armed troops, like so many cowardly terrorists.".
USA by invading and occupying a muslim country has earned itself the right to be called "BIGGEST TERRORIST". It is now "on par" with Al Qaeda, Taliban, Hamas & Hezbollah for having killed thousands of innocent Iraqi men, women & children.
I wonder how neo cons are complaining when Iran is fighting the terrorists and occupiers in Iraq!!!!!!!!!!!!
Get Real neo con!
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nikkibabe1 year, 7 months ago
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There is a total economic & infrastructure collapse within USA.
... and this moron war monger goes to Iraq to assure them of continued American help with borrowed money from China.
Hello............ Is any dumb neo conservative up and listening there? What do you guys tell people who are losing their houses, jobs, medical insurance? What are you going to tell poor Americans in Mississippi & Lousiana who still don't have a roof over their heads after 3 years? What are you going to tell people who are faced the prospect of a $5 per gallon for gas and 100% increase in cost of food items?
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Jaydee401 year, 7 months ago
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I agree with most of the comments posted here on this thread and am well known for slamming Bush. I can't help but feel George W Bush is just like Lee Harvey Oswald, a patsy with limited mental abilities and no real idea what the real plans are. What one must wonder is even as dimwitted as he is can't he see the destruction now happening to his country and want to stop it?
The American Constitution and the Republic were an experiment at a new form of government and I think most would admit it has failed. Any government that allows it's leaders to break laws or their agencies to do so should be brought down and if the provisions are not there to do it then it clearly fails to be a responsible and civilized government. So much for the second amendment America.
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djrevelky1 year, 7 months ago
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Wow....from bashing Bush to strict, pessimistic, anti-Americanism?
How has the government failed? The US Constitution was not written to create a government that provides cradle to the grave 100% worry free care of its citizens.
Yes, thousands of Americans are losing their homes...through their own stupidity I might add. But millions more still own their homes perfectly fine. If over half of the country is making it day to day fine then the government is not a failure. It might not be working as intended, or as wished, but it is not a failure.
The Constitution has not failed the American people, nor has the government. The American people have failed the Constitution though. We are the failures.
We constantly elect corrupt politicians. We defend them just because the lil' R or D that is beside their name. When one breaks the saw instead of demanding their seat we say it was a stupid law anyway or something like that.
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Jaydee401 year, 7 months ago
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My point is if their is no working checks put in place that function to limit the power of the president and his appointees then it fails to be a government that represents the will of the people. Case in point how many Americans have been against bush's war or the continuation of that war. Even though the President has broken American law and international law has he been brought to justice? When a form of government has no ability to correct these thing it must be seen as a failure in my view and that of much of the world. Sot that is why I say it is not only the president who let you down but your entire political system as well.
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Candida1 year, 7 months ago
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Jaydee40,
I agree with most of your comment, but you ask: "how many Americans have been against bush's war or the continuation of that war" Well, very few, in fact, were against this war at the start. Bush's approval ratings were in the 80s if I remember correctly. How many support the continuation of the war? We'll know that in November when the votes for McCain are counted.
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djrevelky1 year, 7 months ago
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We elected a president in 2000 to direct the country, to keep things going on the right track, to bring us together "a united, not a divider". For reasons that I don't care to argue about, he failed. In 2004 we have a chance to change course but instead the other pary nominates a moron with zero personality who loses, if Bush was that bad then we failed.
We elected a Congress with a Speaker of the House whose sole promise was to get us out of Iraq...she failed. She couldn't keep the main promise of her campaign but yet people still defend her and her party. We haven't demanded that those persons who lied to us be removed from power so WE failed yet again.
Now...here we are again with 3 choices left; are we going to make the right one? Are we actually going to vote on the issues? Or let race, gender, age, and party affiliation make our vote for us?
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djrevelky1 year, 7 months ago
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I know far too many people who will not vote for Obama because he's black, even more who will vote for him just because he is Black.
The same with Hillary being a woman. The same with McCain because he is a Republican.
We blew our chance already with those 3. Obama and Hillary are part of the group that promised to get us out of Iraq and they have not accomplished their promise.
McCain and Hillary are part of the group that got us there in the 1st place.
All 3 are senators, all 3 sat there and watched the economy spiral downwards, the mortgage crisis grow, and allowed immigration to grow unchecked...Just like President Bush on all 3 counts. Not a single one did ANYTHING, to stop the growing trends.
Our elected leaders failed us, they didn't even attempt to resolve the situation...and now, we are going to vote for them again.
The Constitution failed the American people? NO WAY! We failed it.
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Jaydee401 year, 7 months ago
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"The Constitution failed the American people? NO WAY! We failed it."
Thats another way of looking at it in all honesty, but in no other country in the world is the everyday joe charged with keeping the government in check and contrary to what Americans have been told for years they are not better than others or more free. Yes Americans could have made better choices at the poles but one must ask why are you given one loser to vote for over another? Look at the histories of present and past candidates and ask where the honest hardworking people are gone? Why does it take so much money to run a campaign and who puts up how much money at just what price? I keep thinking back to Eisenhower's warning and don't think people took him serious enough, do you?
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wtagg1 year, 7 months ago
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Jaydee401 year, 7 months ago
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The thing about being rich is it only lasts until someone takes it away from you and the more unhappy the poor and working poor get the more chances are that they will raise against the rich, it's happened in every civilization and will happen again.
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wtagg1 year, 7 months ago
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I think neo-con is an inappropriate term, mainly because there is nothing conservative about them.
I prefer non-cons.
You voted for someone you allegedly feel has done the job you wanted him to do.
Could you list the reasons why you voted for him? Be careful of the Kerry comparison as that isn't setting the benchmark very high.
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Candida1 year, 7 months ago
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wtagg: "I think neo-con is an inappropriate term, mainly because there is nothing conservative about them."
Oh, but it is the appropriate term. You forget that con is short not just for "conservative" but for a bunch of other things.
con (adverb): against a proposition, opinion, etc.: arguments pro and con.
con (verb): involving abuse of confidence: a con trick; to swindle; trick; to persuade by deception, cajolery, etc.
con (noun): a confidence game or swindle; a lie, exaggeration, or glib self-serving talk
con (noun): a convict
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markmawn21 year, 7 months ago
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He's probably there to check on the progress of his "palace".
http://wheresmyamerica.files.wordpress.com/2007...
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joeblowe1 year, 7 months ago
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I think possibly the MOST important thing to note here is the impending 5 year anniversary of this fiasco. FIVE YEARS citizens. Five years in a place we don't belong, doing things we ought not be doing, spending money we don't have. At least on previous occasions when the U.S. overthrew one government in favor of another, there was a replacement ready to take over control. Apparently THIS time that little detail was overlooked. Along with thousands of others.
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Candida1 year, 7 months ago
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joeblowe: "At least on previous occasions when the U.S. overthrew one government in favor of another, there was a replacement ready to take over control. Apparently THIS time that little detail was overlooked."
I don't think it was overlooked; it just didn't matter because there was no intention to ever leave.
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NoWayMan1 year, 7 months ago
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this is just more proof of how tenuous the situation really is in Iraq. because if we truly had things under control, cheney would be able to simply announce his visit and then go. he wouldn't have to "surprise" anyone for security reasons.
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DrBenway1 year, 7 months ago
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Imagine what Cheney's conversations in Iraq must be like?
"Ehhh, so... lost your two children and your arm, huh? Well... that's funny, I'm doing just fine! Heh, heh, heh! You think you're bad, you should see the guy I went huntin' with back a few years ago. Heh, heh, heh!"
I typically never refer to people as "evil". Evil is a black-and-white term that Neo-Cons like to throw around. But Dick Cheney is a f*cking, evil, black-hearted, cold-blooded sonofabitch if I ever saw one.
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markmawn21 year, 7 months ago
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I think the picture should have a caption. "Wanna see something scary? Watch the devil come out of my mouth".
Or, "watch the alien spring forth from my pacemaker".
Beelezebub is done with this body. He just wanted to leave it where he found it.
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STronnes1 year, 7 months ago
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I wonder how much of this "visit" has to do with briefing the Iraqis and the Saudis as to our plans for Iran. I realize that one of the Generals has said that there are no plans right now to invade Iran. Nothing was said about whether our war ships have plans to attack Iran from the air.
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buckheadd1 year, 7 months ago
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As you all know that I am running for President, My opinion on this is short and simple. We withdraw our troops without letting any other country know, and quickly withdraw our troops bring them back home. Then the other countries will wonder where most soldiers went(as most are American) and continue fighting without a majority of soldiers. Then, three months later, I announce that I have secretly withdrawn all of our troops, and tell them I did it for security purposes. That way I face no oposition from the Iraqi government or any other Important nation.
HAHA, although that would be considered a superb idea by some, I consider it very irresponsible and I would change it by making few modifications but I support the idea of having all our soldiers back within three months.
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Candida1 year, 7 months ago
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Haven't you heard? President Bush hasn't been concerned about him for more than six years.
"President Bush Holds Press Conference" "March 13, 2002"
" Q But don't you believe that the threat that bin Laden posed won't truly be eliminated until he is found either dead or alive?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, as I say, we haven't heard much from him. And I wouldn't necessarily say he's at the center of any command structure. And, again, I don't know where he is. I -- I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him."
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03...
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cloud151 year, 7 months ago
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I wonder how many people here actually read the article, opposed to how many people saw the name Cheney in the headline and were drawn to it like flies to poop.
I understand you guys don't like the guys....but at what point does it become an obsession?
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dissent1 year, 7 months ago
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are you saying you see nothing to be outraged about? you're okay with this crew sending the nation to the top of the war cirmes charts with a bullet? dallying in the sadistic, subterranean delights of torture and the black arts of all things sneaky, inhumane and hidden from view? dispensing with the inconvenience of morality, honor and virtue? doing a dump on the economy and flushing it down the toilet? if you are okay with all of this i can see why you'd look at outrage as an obsession. quick, cloud15, better get ya head out of the clouds and back in the sand
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