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    bubba21 year, 8 months ago

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    IF the current administration could actually DO something about the mess they made, and they SHOWED it, I might not be so adamant about totally pulling out.

    But, as you agreed, the situation gets WORSE every day, NOT better.

    The Iraqis WANT us OUT. The latest published poll indicates over 70% of Iraqis want the U.S. to leave.

    The Iraqis need to take care of their own country.

    You say that pulling out now is the same as the hasty invasion?

    You DO see what goes on while we continue to stay?

    There is NO evidence that the violence and/or the situation in that country would get worse if we left. The administration says that, but seeing as they have lied about everything regarding Iraq, why would you believe them on that point?

    Since most Iraqis want us OUT, the odds are that the situation will actually get better because the occupiers will be GONE.

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      djrevelky1 year, 8 months ago

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      The evidence that suggest that the violence in that country would get worse if we leave is called common sense.

      As you said yourself, it is a civil war. We all know that the US military propping up the government. When you remove the prop, a government falls. When the government falls, the civil war gets worse.

      What would have happened in the Balkans with the declaration of the independence of Kosovo if UN troops had not been there?

      The war for control in the middle east between Shia and Sunni Islam has been going on for over 1,000 years...removing the US presence will not end that war automatically.

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        bubba21 year, 8 months ago

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        That's right ... the war between those factions has been going on and on, and WE will NOT stop it.

        Being IN Iraq is not stopping that conflict - in fact, we exacerbated it!!

        If you believe in what the Bible says, those people will fight each other until the end of time. WHY should we stay in the MIDDLE of it? WHAT good is that DOING? None!

        Comparing the Balkan / U.N situation is NOT the same thing.

        The U.S. MADE the mess in Iraq, but we continue to make the mess WORSE by STAYING.

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          joeblowe1 year, 8 months ago

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          A minor correction: The U.S. did NOT "make the mess" in Iraq. Iraq has been a mess for many, many years. Saddam simply used brute force to keep it under control. We just removed the control over the mess that was already there.

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            bubba21 year, 8 months ago

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            I would MOSTLY agree with that ... Saddam kept the religious factions under control.

            But, when we invaded Iraq, we made his 'mess' MUCH worse and it continues to get worse.

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