Starbucks ordered to pay $100M in tips »
Posted By cristinabows 1 year, 7 months ago in NewsSAN DIEGO (AP) -- A Superior Court judge on Thursday ordered Starbucks to pay its California baristas more than $100 million in back tips and interest that the coffee chain paid to shift supervisors.
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joeblowe1 year, 7 months ago
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Good enough for them. It takes a lot of balls for someone in management to mandate what the lowest level employees have to do with gratuities that are given TO THEM. It pretty much falls under "theft" if you ask me. I think it would be fair if someone served a little time for this. It's despicable (using Yosemite Sam dialect).
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saintetienne1 year, 7 months ago
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(Sigh)
Yet another case of government meddling in business, and costing the taxpayers.
Starbucks should be able to do whatever they want with the tips they receive. If word gets out that baristas are having to share their tips with management, no one will want to work as a barista, and they'll have to stop the practice in order to get good employees. Let the market decide.
Why is the government getting involved in this, and how much of OUR tax dollars did it cost to form a government committee to investigate, hold hearings, etc.??
Nobody ever seems to remember the millions of dollars in tax revenues that Starbucks generates, the tens of thousands of jobs they give people (who in turn pay taxes), or the goods and services the company provides.
I'm not banging the drum for Starbucks - personally I hate coffee and never patronize them - but I AM wondering why government always has to interfere in and muck up businesses.
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ind061 year, 7 months ago
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Yes, I'm sure you're just GOING BROKE over this, saintetienne. I'm sure your personal taxes have simply SKYROCKETED over "The Starbucks Barista Tip Imbroglio Tax Scam"
I can see the headline now! "Wage Slaves Get Tips Back, Saintetienne's Taxes Rise Not One Stupid Bit!"
Well, don't fret, you won't suffer financial ruin! I've just cut a penny in quarters to cover your fictional losses, where do I mail your fraction?
By the way, do you have any legitimately earned gratuities I can steal, er, borrow?
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ADAGUY1 year, 7 months ago
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You can't be this dumb!
There is absolutely no way that you can really be this stupid. This entire post is an act, I have no reason to believe that stupidity is this rampant among the human race!
Please tell me that your post is a joke!
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saintetienne1 year, 7 months ago
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Don't leave a tip then.
Besides, how do you know what that line manager has or has not done? They are responsible for training the person who helped you, are responsible for enabling them to do their job properly and efficiently, and they are certainly responsible for hiring the person who helped you. Without that line manager, there wouldn't be ANYONE to help you.
Why are you so concerned about how a business runs itself? You got your coffee and were charged a price that you deemed fair - what difference does it make where your tip goes? You pay roughly 40% of your hard-earned wages to a faceless government that wastes, mis-manages and is unaccountable for the money they TAKE from you, so why are you so concerned about chump change that you VOLUNTARILY left behind at a business who provided a product and a service for you?
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saintetienne1 year, 7 months ago
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You make a good point, kboy. At a Starbucks, there is a cashier who takes your order, a barista, a person to clean tables and pick up trash, managers on duty and probably several other workers behind the scenes. If you leave a tip - - who should it go to? All are involved in your purchased product and your satisfaction. Should they not all share in your tip?
It's a bit clearer in a restaurant, where a waiter or waitress sees to your needs throughout the meal, over the course of an hour or an hour and a half. But at STARBUCKS? Again, WHY IS THIS AN ISSUE, AND WHY ARE THE TAXPAYER'S DOLLARS BEING SPENT ON INVESTIGATIONS, COURT HEARINGS, ETC.
This is NONSENSE. With everything that the government has now taken control of, don't they have better things to do with their time and our money than tell Starbucks employees what to do with the tips they receive?
I think the government ultimately wants to TAX these tips, which is why they are so interested.
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buckheadd1 year, 7 months ago
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Wow!This is just another example of the widening gaps between the rich and the poor. Of course,this is not exactly what would be considered a literal one, but it shows the greed and can compare to what is happening between the rich and the poor. The managers, keep more of the tips while the waiters don't get much of it. If I am made President, I will have laws passed that increase minimum wage, I am thinking about 10 bucks per hour? Then, that money will circulate thruout the country, and gradually repair this weakened in power, but not in spirit! BUCKHEADD FOR PRESIDENT 2008!
$PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT$ As of 3/21/08, ALPHAGNOSIS has OFFICIALLY become the Vice Executive Manager and has replaced bronxbomber! I fired bronxbomber as he was being a VERY bad Vice Executive Manager, and I felt ALPHAGNOSIS could just handle the job better! ranchhand was fired as of 3/20/08, because he was also following the footsteps of bronxbomber. STONERS is leading effectively, and ENGINEER is also doing fine.
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Endoscopy1 year, 7 months ago
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Widening gap huh? The rich are a growing class while the middle class and poor are shrinking. Explain that one to me please. Nobody pays attention to the reality of the upward mobility in the US.
Libs just like to whine and cry about the 50% of people who pay no taxes. A lot of them are in the middle class.
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jordan111 year, 7 months ago
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I've frequented Starbucks shops for ten years, and have come to know many of the employees, including shift leads. The supervisors wait on customers as much as the regular barista's do. These aren't large individual operations, and normally have two people working. Occasionally I've seen three working in the very busy parts of Seattle. Dang, the area behind the counters is so small there isn't room for many more than three. Meanwhile, the shift leads not only wait on customers, they clean...keep the area supplied...order...teach the other one or two employees...etc. I have no problem with them sharing the tip I leave. They wait on me as much as the other employee(s) do.
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