What Barack Obama Could Not (and Should Not) Say »
Posted By Neophile 1 year, 7 months ago in NewsBarack Obama delivered a truly brilliant and inspiring speech this week. There were a few things, however, that he did not and could not (and, indeed, should not) say.
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Bkumm1 year, 7 months ago
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In answer to Mr. Harris' final question as to whether or not we will ever have a candidate that supports the audacity of reason:
Not until we realize that there are those people out there far more interested in power for themselves than they are in transforming our society for the better.
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Goppy1 year, 7 months ago
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I gotta tell ya, Bkumm - thats bout as good an answer as I ken imagine.
Here we got a candidate, apparently un-sullied by the modern ethos of demonization politics - and that one (loud and obnoxious) segment of our society who strive so diligently to coarsen every aspect of the national dialogue - rear their insipid little haids and strike out - with unusually vocal stridency and self righteousness.
Sometimes, I wonder how we ken call ourselfs Christian Conservatives when we run from grace, hide from dignity, and seek to diminish all vision.
Its liek we look at Jesus and say - lets make ourselfs into the exact opposite of Jesus - then promote ourselfs as the one true interperters of Jesus teachins.
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ETproductions1 year, 7 months ago
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Kevin Drum wrote on CBS News that their polling shows Obama's speech was reasonably successful in calming the storm.
"Sixty-nine percent of voters who have heard or read about Obama's speech say he did a good job addressing the issue of race relations, and 63 percent of voters following the events say they agree with Obama's views on race relations. Seventy-one percent say he did a good job explaining his relationship with Wright.
"This is probably about as good as it could have been. There was never any chance of persuading the 30% of hardcore Fox viewers, after all, and this poll suggests that he got virtually unanimous support among everyone else."
What an insightful analysis of all that is dunderheaded about American politics.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/22/polit...
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Grrr1 year, 7 months ago
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I think it was an Arrested Development song that went something like;
"Shoulda been praying to change your woes but the pastor said pray to cope with those."
That was a slam against black baptist churches acceptance of the 'way things are' and intentionally not advocating black activism to keep the churches from being turned into bonfires during the decades of the civil rights push in the south.
This would seem to be the opposite problem, or rather a perfect illustration of the reasons for the aforementioned attitude.
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Grrr1 year, 7 months ago
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The problem we have in American politics now is that we have constitutional protections against religion masquerading as a political party. But not against political parties masquerading as religions, like the GOP is doing now. They don't have the slightest intent to further the objectives of their fundamentalist christian base, merely to falsely manipulate them to get out the votes. Or suppress them, as in the case at hand.
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Charlson1 year, 7 months ago
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"Religion unites, motivates, and consoles beleaguered people not with knowledge, but with superstition and false promises."
I'd just change "false promises" to "unproven promises based on blind faith." I guess no one really knows that they're false or true until you die.
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Grrr1 year, 7 months ago
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I am no fan of moveon (move on is exactly what should NOT have happened in 2000), but I just got a fwd that links to this little movie that pretty much tells us what is going on in the MSM these days/months/years on this issue.
https://pol.moveon.org/pac/donate/foxattacksoba...
DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE!!
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kboy1 year, 7 months ago
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The problem (sidestepped)is about a Religious Leader using the victim approach to justify why a group of people are still at the bottom of the food chain. He also does not care that the same group has stayed at the bottom of the food chain regardless of laws and tremendous amounts of financial aid. Everything is the blame of white companies.
Where is the call for a person being responsible?
Racism is racism whether it is a southern red neck church or a northern black church! A leader cannot be an extremest and expect to be elected.
A speech is only a speech. The people advising someone reflect the true values of the person.
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berkeley1 year, 7 months ago
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what did the press do with mccain and the rev. hagee? almost nothing.
why?
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/02/...
the main difference is that mccain actively sought the support of hagee...
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Endoscopy1 year, 7 months ago
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The author is an obvious atheist blasting religion. Atheists are people espousing faith in evolution saying people of faith are stupid. What more can you expect from someone like that. Obama a Christian should say that Christianity is at fault. What a fool.
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rimbaud1 year, 7 months ago
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One thing I liked about Ron Paul is that he tried to lead you through the reasoning he used to arrive at his positions, unlike some who just expect you to accept their positions as axiomatic of their being conservative or liberal or whatever. That's also what I like about Obama. Incidentally, to me, Rev Wright's rants about America's chickens coming home to roost was not that different from Ron Paul's reasoning for why we have become a target for terrorists.
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amazed1 year, 7 months ago
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this article was at least as bigoted a rant as anything those whack job preachers (from both sides) had to say.
It is funny how those who claim to be espousing tolerance show little of it to anyone to the right of, or even more likely, in disagreement with them.
But I am sure I'll get several responses about how their not bigoted or intolerant, just champions of intelligence and commons sense.
Yeah, right...
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Mutainia1 year, 7 months ago
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Religion didn't seem to have much to do with his speech, instead, he was trying to play the victim card, the number one thing that DIDn't get him high in the poles at all, but, made him seem "magical". It was a speech that contradicted the Obama so many people were hoping would stay non-racial and non-guilt producing.... if you will. But, then we starting hearing the hate speech of his pastor that he, Obama, equated his white grandmother's/Jessie Jackson's biased attitude toward blacks with, and, since he decided to STICK with the Christian Farakhan, well, it will be interesting to see if "white guilt" can still pull him to the top again. IS "white guilt" STRONG enough to elect someone who, no doubt, really, truly hates white people being that he'd have that pastor as a mentor for so long? We'll see.
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