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Posted by: TechnologyExpert 1 year, 8 months agoThe U.S. military says a roadside bomb has killed four U.S. soldiers in Baghdad. That raises the overall American death toll to at least 4,000, a grim milestone as the war enters its sixth year.
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Aidenag
March 24, 2008, 7:04 a.m.Find it disturbing how little mention this is getting on sites like foxnews which is only mentioning the 4 soldiers being killed. Or for that matter any conservative website, i can't seem to find it mentioned anywhere on their frontpages. Pro war or not, this is a tragic statistic, that deserves attention to show(and honor) just how much has been sacrificed.
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ningyo
March 24, 2008, 8:28 a.m.its absolutely disgusting the way the dinosaur media and the anti-american left morbidly trumpet these sort of milestones--it isnt done out of any concern for the cause or the troops..just another way to push their self-indulgent agenda into the headlines--this "i support the troops but not the mission" fence sitting , does neither
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hyperbola
March 24, 2008, 8:59 a.m.All the objections of those who opposed the war from the beginning have been proven correct. This article has a particularly good summary of the CONTINUING follies and lies.
Five Years and Counting: Ten Unpleasant Truths About the War in Iraq
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5. The "surge" has failed as a strategy. Increased U.S. troop strength brought internal violence back down to 2005 levels, but political reconciliation did not occur and the level of violence is now rising. Judged by the administration's own criteria, the strategy has not worked. Current force levels are not sustainable, and prolonging the surge would damage our armed forces further and weaken our global position even more.
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hyperbola
March 24, 2008, 9:06 a.m.Well, the failure of the "surge" becomes ever more apparent.
On violent Iraq Easter, 57 killed
Iraq Violence Kills at Least 57 As Extremists Pound Green Zone, Suicide Attack Hits Mosul
Rockets and mortars pounded Baghdad's U.S.-protected Green Zone Sunday and a suicide car bomber struck an Iraqi army post in the northern city of Mosul in a surge of attacks that killed at least 57 people nationwide....
http://wiredispatch.com/news/?id=97895
Sunday: 4 US Soldiers, 91 Iraqis Killed; 152 Wounded
http://www.antiwar.com/updates/?articleid=12569
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hyperbola
March 24, 2008, 9:11 a.m.Tragic Reprise: A Nation of Stupid Children, Who Refuse to Give Up the Lies
As the United States is about to begin the sixth year of its eternally unforgivable, genocidal war crime in Iraq, I direct your attention to a piece I wrote just over a year ago, on March 1, 2007. I could have selected any number of essays, but this one will do for my purposes.
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hyperbola
March 24, 2008, 9:16 a.m.Until we sort out the corrupt corporate media in the US, there will be little improvement.
Fast and Loose With the Facts
How Two Leading Journalists Played the Public to Help Bush Sell His War
... But by the time the U.S. invaded Iraq, five years ago today, much of the public thought that Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda were tightly allied to strike the United States. And the public believed this because the Bush administration constantly intimated it in order to launch its long-desired war.
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hyperbola
March 24, 2008, 9:28 a.m.Baghdad: How to Disintegrate a City
... Though many Baghdad communities are now experiencing their lowest levels of violence in two years, their situations are neither viable, nor stable. The cement barriers, which help to reduce violence, also make social and economic life nearly impossible. Most Baghdadis are now locked into their individual ghettos, terrified of strangers, often afraid to send their children to schools across barriers and neighborhoods, and unable to reach previously held jobs. Employers, deprived of needed workers and customers, have shuttered their establishments. The economy has largely ground to a halt.
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canadianrancher57
March 24, 2008, 9:49 a.m.Yes this is another milestone in this war and some will say 4000 is just a number and why is it being made a story, but for thoise who oppose the war doing so on a daily basis doesn't always get the point across. For those who still support the war I still am wondering why they blindly follow, these people are the same people who when discussing the second world war talk of the countries of Germany and Japan and their exploits to dominate the areas they occupied, they say that those two countries has expansionist ideas and yet they support their own government which has shown to follow similar ideas under the banner of democracy or with the fight on terrorism. 9/11 was a sad day not only for America but for the world for it allowed the world leader at that time to gain free liberty to most regions in the world. The U.S. needed a central base in the oil rich area of the mid east ahd they chose to destroy the country of Iraq to do so. The troops will never come home, this is now home.
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engineer
March 24, 2008, 10:11 a.m.We should have never been there. Sanctions would have worked fine
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quackpot
March 24, 2008, 10:11 a.m.If the surge has worked, why is it not possible to force the Iraqis to police their own country?
Why is the U.S.A. spending billions a month for the sole purpose of providing a police service for the do-nothing Iraqi government?
After five-plus years, it is time to turn over the responsibility of policing Iraq to the Iraqis.
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nikkibabe
March 24, 2008, 10:16 a.m.Here is the new twist.
The London Daily Mirror reports today that the US military in Iraq (Ge. Betray-us) is secretly asking the British to do the "SURGE" in Southern Iraq & Basra as there has been a violent militia uprising. Only few months back the British handed over control to local forces.
Can there be any bigger HYPOCRISY on the part of this Administration and its poster child Gen. Betray-us.
They should waterboard that SOB Colin Powell who lied before UN to start this genocide, so he can tell all the secrets.
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scott4261
March 24, 2008, 11:16 a.m.That's 4000 of our finest men and women who never should have died.
I'm already against the next war.
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nikkibabe
March 24, 2008, 12:08 p.m.It is time also to remember 90,000 innocent Iraqi men, women and children who have give their lives for the US invasion and occupation. How they died or who killed them is irrelavent.
To keep chanting 4000, 4000, 4000 is the height of HYPOCRISY that the rest of the world does not understand about this country and its supporters of the invasion & occupation.
Whoever, calls this a WAR is a party to the deaths of 4000 90,000.
Whoever is calling this an INVASION & OCCUPATION are the people who are trying in vain to end it.
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nikkibabe
March 24, 2008, 2:15 p.m.Quote:"These men died fighting to free people, those that killed them are the same that would and will try to kill you".
So, the writer means to say that Bush invaded Iraq to free the people of Iraq who otherwise would have come here and killed me!. So he freed them and they are killing US troops who are occupying their country.
I hope someone can clarify this for me.
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xlegultx
March 24, 2008, 2:21 p.m.We're trying to occupy a country which could be considered a 3rd world country based on their technology. Did it ever occur to pro-war people that 5x10^11 dollars is wrong? This number says 2 things; either the U.S.A is no longer competent to wage war or there is a lot of corruption.
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jimdoze
March 24, 2008, 2:27 p.m.The U.S. death toll hit 4000 in two weeks on Iwo Jima alone. That was for a sandbar 8 miles long by 2 miles wide. That action was, and still is, considered heroic. Just what were our strategic and tactical reasons for that action?
Perhaps applying that same question to today's conflict will help (at least to those willing to think about it) get some perspective. There have been, and there remain, overwhelming strategic and tactical reasons for us to be in Iraq and remain in Iraq... even for as long as it has taken in Europe and, particularly, Korea.
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aceofspades1
March 24, 2008, 2:29 p.m."But you sleep safe in your bed at night because brave men are willing to visit voilence on your behalf. "
Well I for one DO NOT sleep safe at night knowing we are sending these brave men (& women, you seem to forget) to be cannon fodder for absolutely no sane reason other than the misguided ideals of money & power.
I worry about my future, not of being attacked by terrorists, but the devaluation of the dollar I have worked all my life for - I worry about the futre of my children & grandchildren who will have to pay for this fiasco - I worry about the divisions between the people of this nation & primarily I woeey about the erosion of the American promise - sleep safely?? hardly
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DeadXXXManXXXTalkin
March 24, 2008, 3:31 p.m.from the beginning our leaders gave away US power in the situation. By declaring that the Iraqi people will greet us as liberators and will embrace democracy, and that we would win hearts and minds, etc etc.
You know what all that does?
It lets other people, not the US, but other people the power to control what we do
Look at the events commonly given as things-call them 'benchmarks' if you like-that need to occur in order for us to leave, and you will see they are all things THAT ARE NOT UP TO US.
THEY must stop killing each other
THEY must become self-governing
THEY must be able to defend themselves
All that stuff is out of our control.
It's up to them.
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buckheadd
March 24, 2008, 4:24 p.m.Wow! And if Mcain is elected, and we stay there for a HUNDRED more years, I bet that death toll will be at least 4 times the current one.
BUCKHEADD FOR PRESIDENT 2008!
$PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT$ As of 3/23/08, ALPHAGNOSIS has not been fired. Although I,Buckheadd, was planning on doing it because of her support to Bush, I will not. STONERS and ENGINEER are supporting me SILENTLY, and I have not heard from them in a while. I am growing disappointed with my campaign members but I am not planning on firing any of them. Last week, bronxbomber and ranchhand were fired, as all of you should know by now. ~I am still looking for more members to be a part of my campaign, message me if you are interested~
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albionperfides
March 24, 2008, 5 p.m.However much we detested Blair for his sycophancy to Bush on Iraq at least when he appeared in the House of Commons each week to answer Prime Minister's Questions he had the decency to read out the names of the British Soldiers who had died that week. Did Bush even do anything remotely similar? I think not. He even instructed the US Media not to publish any photographs of the coffins arriving in the US from Iraq. Control of the media is the first step on a slippery slope. What was that about a free media?
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KMFDM
March 24, 2008, 5:15 p.m.Mr. Cheney, what do you have to say about the majority of Americans being agaisnt this war and want to bring their loved ones back home.
Dick Cheney, "So?"
These are the people that say they want to spread democracy to the middle east.
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subsider34
March 24, 2008, 6:28 p.m.Just because the press says that we've accomplished nothing doesn't mean its true. For instance, by entering Iraq we actually DECREASED the amount of military casualties we had each year.
To back up my statement, take a look at this site:
"Military Deaths Since 1980"
http://www.qando.net/details.aspx?Entry=3609
and this one
"Comparing the military death rates"
http://www.murdoconline.net/archives/004581.html
Find anything interesting yet? The press keeps hammering away at us, telling us that the Iraq War is the cause of all the military casualties, when in fact, the casualty rate is actually lower than it was before we went to war.
Also, the Clinton numbers are especially interesting. If we're so concerned about our casualty statistics than maybe we ought to reconsider voting for Hillary Clinton in the upcoming election.
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unkelSam
March 24, 2008, 8:28 p.m.when are we going tu be like da 60s and 70s generation? When they weren't happy with what waz goin on they took tu da streets, fought with police and held lots of sit ins and such. This generation is just letting big brother walk over our Constitution. Big brother lies, torture , spy on us , send our brothers and sistas to fight a country that did nufing tu us and spend our hard earned tax money on showing off our military power. Kan I get an " enough is enough" Send my unkel GW and his party packing in November and lets start new.4000 killed by GW and rumsfelt and chenny and condi and rove and anne coulta .
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bluenote1522
March 24, 2008, 8:39 p.m.McCain is a good man. I am not excited about him but next to Hillary and Obama he is the only one to stop the spending in Washington. Governtment run healthcare will be a disaster. She couldn't do it 15 years ago and let's hope she can't do it this time. Bill allowed these frivoulous medical lawsuits to escalate to the point of obscene. Obama is another socialist only with less experience in Marxism.
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ningyo
March 24, 2008, 9:25 p.m.its absolutely disgusting the way the dinosaur media and the anti-american left morbidly trumpet these sort of milestones--it isnt done out of any concern for the cause or the troops..just another way to push their self-indulgent agenda into the headlines--this "i support the troops but not the mission" fence sitting , does neither----ACTUALLY..it does more than that..out of HARVARD tonight comes definative research that says every time this sort of anti-troop story hits the headlines..the attacks go up and the enemy is encouraged--what a surprise--the same goes for when the lib-dem leadership like reid/pelosi make their anti-troop statements .."the war is lost"--the enemy redoubles their efforts and our troops and innocents die---just like vietnam..we are winning the war...but the hard marxist left like libscape is on the side of our enemy working for the defeat of america
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saintetienne
March 24, 2008, 4:49 p.m."only John's persistence is keeping Ron from the nomination"
....well, that, and Ron Paul's 2% support of voters.
"Anyone got any really good dirt on McCain?"
No, there IS no dirt on McCain. The New York Times tried that and failed, embarrassingly. And anyway, why do you have to resort to finding dirt on an opponent in order to boost your own candidate? Do you work for the Clinton campaign?
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