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Posted By JamesMarcus 1 year, 7 months ago in NewsA ceasefire crucial to recent security improvements in Iraq was today under severe strain after Moqtada al-Sadr called for "civil revolt" following a crackdown on Shia factions in Basra. Iraqi security forces in the southern Iraqi city encountered heavy resistance as battles broke out with gunmen from Sadr's Mahdi Army militia.
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GWHayduke1 year, 7 months ago
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gamahuche1 year, 7 months ago
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I was thinking how to say exactly the same thing but can't improve on your analysis!
This is a turn of the screw which has been waiting to happen.
The main problem with the surge was that it did virtually nothing to win hearts and minds or to create any confidence in Iraquis about the future.
Has anyone heard of refugees flocking home?
Most of them are still dealing with great hardship in unwilling-host countries rather than take the risk of coming home.
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HannibalBarca1 year, 7 months ago
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No you did not win WW!!;..you helped win it! And WW!! was a different ball of wax, countries and armies fought each other.
Iraq as a country is defeated along with whatever army it had....now you are fighting against an idea and religion and an army can not beat those.
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ETproductions1 year, 7 months ago
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Baloney. After all the string of lies, you still believe the talking bush?
There are less than 6000 Al Qaeda operatives in a country of 26,000,000 people. Al Qaeda is a problem, and needs to be eliminated. But they are a bogeyman the bushies constantly trot out to suit their purpose. We have Al Qaeda on the run, and must stay the course. OR... If we withdraw now, Al Qaeda will take over Iraq and launch nukes to Washington and New York tomorrow morning.
Sorry, but both can not possibly be true. And since nothing else bush has put out has proved true, might as well assume both of these are lies too.
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jordan111 year, 7 months ago
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no Iraq is fighting al-queda and trying to not slip into civil war. We'll see if they can succeed. For their sake I hope so.>>>>
WHAT? They're IN a civil war! And what there is of al qaeda there, is helping the Sunni's against the Shiites, on top of attacking out troops. How can you be so wrong? I'm seriously worried about you.
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quackpot1 year, 7 months ago
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160,000 of the world's best trained soldiers supported by a huge force of private armies and several billion dollars a month...And, after five years of the battle against Al-Qaida Iraq, the enemy is at about the same strength (perhaps a few thousand, but nobody knows for sure) as shortly after the Invasion began (it did not exist prior to the invasion).
Do you see any problem with this picture crghss?
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dissent1 year, 7 months ago
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HannibalBarca: "now you are fighting against an idea and religion and an army can not beat those."
yep, but mostly we're fighting a hostile home team, what we call militia, offended by us crashing into their country, breaking the furniture and acting liking we're doing them a huge favor
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HannibalBarca1 year, 7 months ago
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Get your head out of your butt and go back to the books and read.
Where were the Russians on D-Day fool....the polish border and were facing a strong but defeated German army.
Your self righteous, holier than thou, looking down your nose at the rest of the Allies is what gives Americans a sh itty name....Thank the Lord and all the Saints that you are a flipping minority...you are just a John Wayne wanna be, and he got excused from military duty so he could make movies....HaHaHa
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Blackacereturn1 year, 7 months ago
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Now for the Russians, they won nothing the Germans defeated themselves by not preparing for the cold weather. They got caught in one of the worse storms of that winter and that was their demise nor any fancy fighting by the Russians whom has always been overeater in my eyes! I understand where revisionist history helps you to get over the fact that you were pass over by a so call colony and saved by them...
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disraeli1 year, 7 months ago
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Black,
I think that you need a bit of a remedial history course as regards the Second World War.
Suffice it to say your mistaken comments about the Russian victory over the Germans during the Great Patriotic War belies a significant gap in your knowledge base.
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Blackacereturn1 year, 7 months ago
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During the autumn, Zhukov had been transferring fresh and well-equipped Soviet forces from Siberia and the far east to Moscow (these troops had been stationed there in expectation of a Japanese attack, but Stalin's master spy Richard Sorge indicated that the Japanese had decided to attack Southeast Asia and the Pacific instead). On 5 December 1941, these reinforcements attacked the German lines around Moscow, supported by new T-34 tanks and Katyusha rocket launchers. The new Soviet troops were prepared for winter warfare, and they included several ski battalions. The exhausted and freezing Germans were routed and driven back between 100 and 250 km (60 to 150 miles) by 7 January 1942.
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disraeli1 year, 7 months ago
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And of course as we know the German's reached the zenith of their advance into Russia in the fall of 1942 (some 9 months after the Soviet counter attack of December 1941). The Germans clearly were not beaten in the winter of 1941/42.
The turning point, as I'm sure you will agree, was the defense of Stalingrad, followed by the encirclement of Von Paulus' 6th army. Even so it took a further 2-1/2 years of vicious fighting before the Russians got to Berlin's gates.
Your description of the Russian counter attack notwithstanding at no point was the German army routed. Individual units may have been, particularly the minor Axis partners (the Romanians and the Italians), the German army as a whole maintained fighting discipline to the very end of the war.
More generally I take issue with your claim that the Russians were secondary to the Americans in influence and effect on the eventual German defeat. That is simply not true.
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HannibalBarca1 year, 7 months ago
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No not really because 6 months later the Germans mounted there last major offensive attack,,,Kursk, the largest tank battle the world had ever seen to this day,
The Russians had a fantastic spy ring in Germany, some speculate that Borman was a Russian plant but whoever he was the Russians were prepared for all of Germany's attacks
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HannibalBarca1 year, 7 months ago
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If they Russians were such a poor adversary for the Germans, then why was 75% of German war material and men sent to the Russian front.
And you need to figure out...how did a country and army that in 6 months of fighting and having lost over 12 mill soldiers either KIA or POW's, losing most of their industrial land stop both Army Group North (1000 day siege of Leningrad)and Army group Center ( defense of Moscow) and a year later give Army Group South a sh it kicking at Stalingrad, 240,000 German causalities (Paulus's 6th Army)
I bet you still believe in the tooth fairy don't you.
And remember Stalingrad was over Feb 43, where were the rest of the Allies, Britian and the commonwealth in N Africa and USA at home.
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jimdoze1 year, 7 months ago
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What is the "idea" we are fighting? If you consider power and wealth to be "ideas", I suppose you have a case.
It seems to me we are fighting power grabs by a variety of entities... some of those from outside Iraq. Those attempting to grab power by force who are exclusively from within Iraq are bolstered by ethnic, tribal and cultural variants of the same religion. The stakes are extraordinarily high to those players in historical terms because if any one faction gains control, they control a resource that, in the context of any conflict through history, has extraordinary value. In an apt metaphor, oil will continue to fuel the fire for a long time.
We are not fighting an "idea", nor a religion. Military force IS necessary.
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sotiris-k1 year, 7 months ago
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Tell me again why is this murderous sob still allowed to exist free and undermine Iraq? Bush is the traitor of his country that engaged in a criminal invasion. The crime was not against the people of iraq. The crime was against the prosperity of americans. Contrary to those that hold americans responsible for the deaths in iraq i hold responsible first the Iraqi people and leaders. Regardless of the fact the invasion was wrong , a moronic choice that likely was the result of a money oriented enterprise to exploit the emerging crisis(clue yourself why EXXON and the rest of the guys deserve 100 bil$ per year profits today) the ultimate truth about iraq is that it has failed because its citizens have failed themselves first. Bush is criminal because he should have known that a country is not ready for democracy until it first spills its own blood for it. Iraqis are not fighting for democracy today. They are fighting because they lack national identity and this is the root of the problem.
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sotiris-k1 year, 7 months ago
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Bush should have known that this would happen. One can only hope that he and his architects are simply inept at game theory logic . The alternative is that a treasonous set of people became the government and decided to bankrupt their own country in order to enrich their friends and personal money interests.
This war never made any strategic sense either from a humanitarian or a cold hard cash point of view. Unless one looking for benefits is not the US as a country but only a subset of its business money culture. Then this war makes immense sense. The hunt for personal money/power above and beyond ethics or ones own country's prosperity is the source for all this mess.
Why cant iraqi people rise up and proclaim enough is enough we love our country, lets all unite and show americans they can leave us because we can save our own homeland! They cant because they are beneath national identity. They cant because they allow pathetic theocratic murderers like Sadr to even be relevant.
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sotiris-k1 year, 7 months ago
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Where are the leaders? Where are the leaders here and there? Where is the inspiring Iraqi leader that will become the new father of modern Iraq, that will rise up and ask his/her citizens to embrace the opportunity for democracy that the invasion provided for them? Where is the iraqi that will love all kurds, Shias and Sunnis and demand from them to do something for their land and embrace a future of peace .And where is the american leader that will monopilize the Iraqi TV channels for a month if needed and talk directly to iraqi people , explain that his country has no financial gain or exploitation in mind and demand from them to rise up and prove their national identity. Where is the guy that will offer iraqi people a contract with the future? Where is the leader that will engage them all and demand from them to unite and reject alcaeda, reject sectarianism, warlords and embrace instead a properous future for their kids free from Saddam and free from US generals. WHERE?
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Lurch1 year, 7 months ago
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The surge ended about six months ago.
This is just another layer of right-wing BS that steals our money to put in the pockets of the already rich & powerful using the ever increasing number of people they sent to their deaths as the excuse.
As long as Americans are so gullible they continue to take money out of their children`s future to reward the people who are stealing their freedoms, nothing will change.
McCain 2008! (just kidding)
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joeblowe1 year, 7 months ago
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The sad thing is: I don't really believe a word of anything the press reports concerning Iraq. I have come to the conclusion that they - for the most part - simply parrot whatever line of Bul!sh!t the Pentagon is handing out this week. It DOES seem as though this al-Sadr guy has an inordinate amount of military effectiveness for a so-called "cleric" though. Why, I doubt if the Poop himself could raise as much hell as Moqtada, and he has MUCH fancier headgear. If it were up to me, I'd stop calling this guy a "cleric" and start referring to him as "warlord" al-Sadr or some such. Cleric my as*.
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vor1 year, 7 months ago
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This was inevitable. We have allowed local warlords to self govern the region for nearly a year. They do not wish to be under Iraqi government control. When the British moved back they claimed their own little territories. We will soon see as well that empowering the Sunni in the North will result in the same. Small groups of consolidated power that have little interest in national unity. The government is providing them little and in return they have little respect for that body.
Al-Sadr is playing this like a wise owl. He lay low during the Surge. He knows he cannot fight US forces successfully but he also knows he has elements outside of his brigade that are loyal to him in the Iraqi Army. Even if he dies he becomes a martyr.
This is just the resurrection of an issue that Petraeus certainly sidestepped in his last visit to Congress. I remember thinking, "why doesn't anyone ask him about the consequences of the British withdrawal?" But it never happened...
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Grrr1 year, 7 months ago
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MRCOFFEECAKE1 year, 7 months ago
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Well now he has enough of our money to fund a revolt against us..Isn't that hay happened with the Taliban??
This is what happens when one cowboy President is followed by another!
The problem is this time the Indians aren't on reservations and they outnumber us, plus we're on their turf.
Yeah, I know in the 1600-1800's we were on the Indian's turf, but give me a little poetic license, will ya??
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crghss1 year, 7 months ago
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Your mixing the facts.
The U.S. and Iraqi forces moved into challenge the Sadr's Mahdi militia. This prompted Sadr to run to Iran. To save face, and his skin, he agreed to a cease fire. At the same time the U.S. hired local Sunni tribe's(Sadr is Shia) to police their own area's. The awaking consul did this for the money and because al-aqeuda was killing everyone in site and the Iraqi's grew tired of this.
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MRCOFFEECAKE1 year, 7 months ago
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We're paying both sides. If you watch C-Span you'd have seen the testimony.
There is graft and corruption and the testimony defending paying both sides has claimed, and I QUOTE:
"In every democracy corruption is part of the process"..
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MRCOFFEECAKE1 year, 7 months ago
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fact: In April 2004 we gave him $1.2million for his weapons
after a 10 day standoff in a Fallujah Mosque.
Fact: We gave his people $330million as part of the clear, build and secure program under Casey in 2005.
Fact since June 2006 he has rearmed...
You may not "think" so, but the evidence proves it.
Even Frontline has reported those "facts" about Al Sadr,
the guy who we allowed to hang Saddam and have his name chanted by the hangmen and crowd 15 times in front of Saddam when they were hanging him.. "Muqmadah" was chanted 20-25 times..
By the way, that is factually Al Sadr's first name.
It's on tape..
Go listen, then maybe what you "think" will be replaced by fact.
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MRCOFFEECAKE1 year, 7 months ago
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We bought his weapons for $1.2million in 2003 and after a stalemate in Fallujah he later joined the Malaki government in 2005 after the holy Mosque was destroyed by AlQuida..
His militia worked with us to secure Baghdad against the Sunnis. He only went to Iran in the summer of '06 and we started the rumors that he fleed..Obviously he did not.
Now he's against us again..That IS THE HISTORY.
Why do you believe all of our bull?
Five commanders later, and all in less qualified order later
you continue your blind belief in the bull they sling???
Why?
Don't you have ANY common sense, or pride?
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MRCOFFEECAKE1 year, 7 months ago
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Yeah right, Iran laughs at our stupidity.
Do you remember that we paid the Taliban or do you selectively forget that little fact??
PLEASE.. You wreak of apologism and revisionism.
The funny part is you're re-writing it as it happens. usually it takes 20 years to things to one's liking.
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tchef1 year, 7 months ago
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This is what I've been talking about for a while now. I would be willing to bet that no matter how long we stay, the minute we leave all out civil war will break out. Al Sadre is just waiting for us to leave, He knows it's only a matter of time.
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crghss1 year, 7 months ago
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al-sadr is losing control of his army, has been for a while now. We'll see what the end result is but a lot of oil revenue is at stake in Basra so everyone's fighting for a piece. Hopefully the Iraqi's force can start to take control of the country. It's the only hope for Iraq not to self destruct into civil war.
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Ratskii1 year, 7 months ago
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Drop is a barbarian. Only his own tribe are human in his mind. He believes that killing millions of strangers or opponents isn't a crime. Still, I would think that even he would have some mind for the consequences of his proposed actions, unless he really is completely ignorant of the world outside his own neighborhood.
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Ratskii1 year, 7 months ago
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I was reading your comment, not your mind -- and responding accordingly. No, dropping a nuclear bomb, isn't the only way to get out of Iraq (besides continuing for another 100 years). Your thinking is simplistic as usual.
Oh, and thanks for the name calling. It tells me my remark is reaching home. Yes, the more dramatically you protest the more I enjoy myself.
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Goppy1 year, 7 months ago
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Why Droppy! Never in my Popeiler history have I heard you disparage our troops and our presdient liek this!
So, you are sayin that its a hopeless endever - so we should just nuke it?
If that s the case, why didnt you say just nuke it 5 years ago and avoid thousands of injured Americans and 4,000 dead Americans - in addition to $550 BILLION dollors down the drain?
Goodness- you are the biggest cut and runner of all tiem!
Does BoboIn Texas know youare talkin liek this?
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hyperbola1 year, 7 months ago
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Actually after opening those files we know that the Soviets abandoned the arms race in the late 1960s (and hence so many treaties in the 1970s).
We then know that the whole Reagan "arms race spectacle" was nothing more than giant kickbacks to the his rich buddies in the defense industry and the increasing militarization of american democracy.
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DropkickaLib1 year, 7 months ago
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Well, he uses a fake persona that requires that he mimic Christians all the time. I think the refusal to express your own ideas and exclusively mimic someone else makes him an annoying sock puppet of a poster. How Demoncratic of you to attempt to demonize me though.
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DrBenway1 year, 7 months ago
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See, I always thought Goppy was using humor to show the hypocrisy of the Neo-Cons.
Then again, Republicans and humor don't really go together very well, do they?
I mean, whatever happened to Fox News' attempt to copy The Daily Show? You remember it... the "The Half Hour News Hour"? That thing was the biggest bomb since Hiroshima!
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DropkickaLib1 year, 7 months ago
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Guppy is funny? Hhhmmm...learn something everyday. Apparently, Republicans are quite successful at humor. The most successful Conservative talk show hosts use humor to garner huge ratings. Libs on the radio, on the other hand...not funny!
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Goppy1 year, 7 months ago
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That WAS a good ideea!
We made enemies on BOTH sides!!
Our Republican hard liners liek to do that.
But then, Im left to wonderin Droppy.
If it was such a good ideea to play one against the other, why ruin it all by eliminatin one of the players?
I mean, Saddam Hussein was a bad dude, no doubt. But that dint seem to bother Reagan and Bush 1 from workin with im!
And theres PLENTY of other bad dudes rulin over folks.
So why the change?
Why not let Saddam Hussein keep his hated enemy, the Al Kaida folks at bay?
Im just askin cause, you seem pretty prideful of how strategically successful it was to support Iraq AND Iran in their conflict.
Could it be liek Ive heard that Saddam Hussein was gettin ready to cancel all American Oil Companies contracts and turn over his oil fields to the Rosskies?
Hmm. That really seems to stand up to the 'Reasonable and Plausible' test.
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crghss1 year, 7 months ago
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Ya, like a two second blip. I watched two major network nothing but a very short clip.
You keep trying to get you digs in but there just not that good. Now be a good girl and turn own the animal planet so you can learn something about the outdoors. OK :-)
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MRCOFFEECAKE1 year, 7 months ago
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If they put on a 2 minute story you, as you always do would call them the negative liberal media..You painted yourself in a corner on this one, didn't you?
That's what happens when you stand on a street corner and point at everyone and shout "liberal"..
Your very small minority is not "conservative" they are archaic "liberal" shouters. real conservatives are still trying to conserve our military and political dignity.
You are just a war monger, who when in doubt just favors shooting up the joint cause we (like the Romans) nare too strong to lose.
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Goppy1 year, 7 months ago
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Jeesh crgy.
WHAT NEWS ARE YOU WATCHIN???
Its all OVER the news.
Its on the TV!
Its on the RAdio!
Its in print!
OH!!
Sorry.. I forgot you are in 'Dang Libural Media Mode' - in which we Conservatives take every opportunity, no matter how redikalous, to try to promote our Libural Media Mantra.
Sorry dude.
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pismo1 year, 7 months ago
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The MSM will cover the story if and only if supports their agenda. Unbiased news reporting is rare if it exists at all these days. CNN, MSNBC, CBS, FOX.....they all report either distortions of the truth or partial truths. Their viewers love the "dirty laundry" they provide.
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DrBenway1 year, 7 months ago
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We can't leave Iraq! You know how much money this is making companies like Blackwater and Halliburton?
Have you liberals no thought of the shareholders and CEOs who won't be able to buy their fifth home if we just "cut and run"?
How about their new homes in Dubai? How are they going to afford to live their after they've sucked Iraq dry? You heartless, heartless people!
Sure people in American are now burning down their homes because they can no longer afford to pay their mortgages... but in the immortal words of Dick Cheney "So"?
No, this war must go on! Viva la unchecked Capitalism!
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nikkibabe1 year, 7 months ago
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Did the "SURGE" guy Iraq John meet with Mukhtada Al Sadr? You cannot go there, meet your military puppets and Iraqi government which is on US payroll, come back here and say "WE ARE WINNING".
You have to meet Al Sadr and ordinary Iraqis who live their lives.
John McCain is a big hypocrite and Bush poster child.
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Ratskii1 year, 7 months ago
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I notice that that is one of the first things many right-wingers think if a leader in some other country is saying or doing something that they don't like. Kill the leader. One trouble with that is that the people he or she is leading don't just go away, and it leaves you nobody effective to negotiate with. Another problem is it contributes to the worldwide hatred of the U.S. A third problem is that it is just plain barbaric.
I've noticed that many on the right think violence is the solution to every problem.
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Grrr1 year, 7 months ago
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Actually, commanders on the ground pushed to take out Al-Sadr in the first two weeks of occupation, hoping they could pull it off while he only had a militia of a couple hundred as opposed to the thousands he would surely amass (and did) over the weeks to come. But Rummy wouldn't give the okay.
???!!!
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Endoscopy1 year, 7 months ago
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listen to all the Demoshrills whine about something that has not happened and make a worst case scenario. The world is coming to an end. Our soldiers are going to die by the thousands. The Generals don't know what they are doing. Did I leave anything out?
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MRCOFFEECAKE1 year, 7 months ago
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The world is not coming to an end, but do you ever even wonder why ALL of the qualified generals have resigned?
Franks, Sanchez, Casey, Fallon and 8 others all gone.
This has NEVER happened in American history.
Hmmm??
Do you ever just wonder?
You are still putting your stock in fools, despite all of the facts that you have had before you.
That makes you just another fool!
You believe every lie they have thrown at you and that is sad.
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nikkibabe1 year, 7 months ago
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Quote: "Why don't we take this punk Al Sadr out? If he's going to turn those ****** lose on our troops, then he should have a taste of a 500 pounder.".
The words of a war monger.
FYI: Al Sadr is an Iraqi born there. US troops are foreigners occupying his country.
IS 4,000 body bags not enough, for you?
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nikkibabe1 year, 7 months ago
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Quote: "Why don't we take this punk Al Sadr out? If he's going to turn those ****** lose on our troops, then he should have a taste of a 500 pounder.".
The words of a war monger.
FYI: Al Sadr is an Iraqi born there. US troops are foreigners occupying his country.
This is an occupation that no military can win. There will be a shameful exit, and watch your white A$$%$ on way out so the Iraqi door does not kick you.
IS 4,000 body bags not enough, for you?
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kedirian1 year, 7 months ago
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Sadr urges "civil revolt" ....
Maybe, it is time to dust off the history books and allow that Little Holiness some serenity and quiet meditation on Diego Garcia, which is a notch better than the island of Elba was for another, earlier midget, albeit one with much more intelligence than this 'Reverend'!
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ningyo1 year, 7 months ago
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this is just another punk fraud race islamo pimp--kind of like sharpton or the rev wrong with real guns..we should have punched his ticket a long time ago..but here the dinosaur media still flock to the rev al and jesse for the same reasons..and hussein obama's no different,,just better suits..and a loudmouth wife to entertain us
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Goppy1 year, 7 months ago
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Now, now ningyo.
YOu forget, this particular type of media is one of the few media outlets not controlled by our Conservative Corporatists.
What that means to you is that - while yall can dominate and divert the nations attention to our own peculiar hate filled right wing propaganda, others can come on here and contrast and compare OTHER points of view.
For instance, heres a video of John Hagee sayin that the nations 45 million Catholics are W HORES!!!
http://www.veracifier.com/episode/TPM_20080305
And you know what?
While Mainstream Media has been givin the US Rev Wrights comments 24/7 - they rarely talk bout how John McCain fell all over hisself to get this Hate Monger's endorsement.
Sorry, but this aint FOX. There AINT just one way of lookin at things here.
Maybe I should start callin you "jingo ningo".
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gwhiddon1 year, 7 months ago
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It looks like a positive to me. Civil disobedience is quite an improvement from all out war. It sounds like democracy is just beginning to take hold. He is choosing civil disobedience first, war next. That's democracy - talk first, then shoot.
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shgarg1 year, 7 months ago
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HMMace1 year, 7 months ago
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ITS A SHAME HOW OUR POLITICIANS HAVE BEEN DOUBLE DEALING --GIVING MONEY TO THE PALISTINIANS..THEY JUST BUY BOMBS WITH THE MONEY--TO KILL MORE PEOPLE..CROOKED POLS--WHAT NEW..
WE AID THE ARABS---THE ONES WHO CAUSED 911..NICE PEOPLE OUR POLITICIANS..
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mrwooly1 year, 7 months ago
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This punk is on the take from Iran where he's been hiding. We all know this to be true. To take him out is to cut the ties with Iran. Even if someone else pops up in his place, at least they know they have to back off or the same thing happens. If this saves one American life, it's worth it.
Give him a pair of 500 pounders.
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Ratskii1 year, 7 months ago
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I think you need to look at new sources of information mrwooly. Al-Sadr went to Iran to study to become an Ayatollah. He is engaging in religious studies. Since he had previously been criticizing Iran for their meddling in Iraq affairs and had said that Shiites should resist if Iran were to invade, it is to Iran's credit that they didn't arrest him.
The party that is pro-Iranian is a different party that sponsors the Badr Militias and has more elected representatives in Iraqs parliament than the Sadr coalition does. Miliki's Dawa party also leans toward Iran.
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nikkibabe1 year, 7 months ago
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Newsflash from Pakistan:
UGLY AMERICANS TOLD THAT "THERE IS A NEW SHERIFF IN TOWN".
English newspapers, Dawn & The News had this quote: "IT WAS NO PLACE AND TIME FOR UGLY AMERICAN DIPLOMATS TO SHOW UP WHEN OUR NEW DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENT WAS BEING SWORN IN". It was referring to Mr. Negroponte & the US Ambassador to Pakistan whoever that SOB is.
Got your ass-kicked-out right?
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nikkibabe1 year, 7 months ago
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Newsflash from Pakistan:
UGLY AMERICANS TOLD THAT "THERE IS A NEW SHERIFF IN TOWN".
English newspapers, Dawn & The News had this quote: "IT WAS NO PLACE AND TIME FOR UGLY AMERICAN DIPLOMATS TO SHOW UP WHEN OUR NEW DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENT WAS BEING SWORN IN". It was referring to Mr. Negroponte & the US Ambassador to Pakistan whoever that SOB is.
Got your f%^&*%$-asses_kicked in a muslim country!!!!
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svensun1 year, 7 months ago
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Once again, we have those on the left, the anti-American, anti-US, pro-islamofascist left, trying to spin a story into a tale of 'doom and gloom', when what we are actually witnessing is an INCREDIBLY POSITIVE DEVELOPMENT!
How long have we had to listen to the insufferable Modern Liberal complaints that the US is bearing the all burden in this fight in Iraq, that Americans shouldn't be doing the fighting that Iraqi 'boys' should do, to paraphrase another failed Modern Liberal icon?
Well, what is this story about? That, FINALLY, Iraqi 'boys' are doing the fighting; the Iraqi government, NOT the US MILITARY, is cracking down on Sadr's militia; finally, the Iraqi government is strong and assertive enough to crack down, challenge and fight a very dangerous militia force, and what do we hear? Not, 'finally', but 'see, it's all a big failure!'
The illogic and deception of the left knows no limits or bounds, and the spinning of this story, is just the latest example.
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svensun1 year, 7 months ago
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Once again, we have those on the left, the anti-American, anti-US, pro-islamofascist left, trying to spin a story into a tale of 'doom and gloom', when what we are actually witnessing is an INCREDIBLY POSITIVE DEVELOPMENT!
How long have we had to listen to the insufferable Modern Liberal complaints that the US is bearing the all burden in this fight in Iraq, that Americans shouldn't be doing the fighting that Iraqi 'boys' should do, to paraphrase another failed Modern Liberal icon?
Well, what is this story about? That, FINALLY, Iraqi 'boys' are doing the fighting; the Iraqi government, NOT the US MILITARY, is cracking down on Sadr's militia; finally, the Iraqi government is strong and assertive enough to crack down, challenge and fight a very dangerous militia force, and what do we hear? Not, 'finally', but 'see, it's all a big failure!'
The illogic and deception of the left knows no limits or bounds, and the spinning of this story, is just the latest example.
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hyperbola1 year, 7 months ago
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I wonder what it will take before the american people finally throw the zioncons out of our government, our politics and our media and adopt sensible policies in the mideast? This maybe?
Globalization Bush-style
... Imagine, for a moment, that you live in a small town somewhere near the Southern California coast. You're going about your daily life, trying to scrape by in hard times, when the missile hits. It might have come from the Iranian unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) -- its pilot at a base on the outskirts of Tehran -- that has had the village in its sights for the last six hours or from the Russian sub stationed just off the coast. In either case, it's devastating.
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svensun1 year, 7 months ago
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Wow!
What a comment, 'hyperbole', if I may alter your logo to make it fit a bit better!
So, you argue that we need to retreat from the Middle East to avoid the coming nuclear wrath of the ayatollahs, or the Russian despots?
Wow, where were you when Hitler and Hirohito needed you?
You are a true 'America Firster', aren't you?
Do you really live your life this way? By crawling away and hiding from any potential threats, no matter what sacrifice is required of you, or what it costs your friends, neighbors and those who are threatened by bullies and thugs?
Do your friends know that you first principle, above all else, is 'your own hide'?
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Grrr1 year, 7 months ago
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In the case of Al-Sadr, it certainly seems that he should have been taken out long ago. He is more an outright criminal than a sectarian thug. Catering to his extortions is not going to improve matters for anyone there but the gunrunners. Further, he is the one obvious Iranian pawn in the region, and he should be taken into custody or removed before he flees to Iran again, providing the admin the excuse to go in after him. Leaving him in place is one of the big mistakes of the strategy in Iraq so far. If we must be there, shouldn't we start doing some things right, strategically?
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Ratskii1 year, 7 months ago
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Grrr, please take the time to look at further sources of information. Al-Sadr is the one Shiite leader that has actually criticized Iran for meddling in Iraqi affairs. See my comment above.
I see my comment was put in the wrong place again.
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MRCOFFEECAKE1 year, 7 months ago
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Ohh. So that's your 8th or 9th strategy?
We've lost count.
Skip right over how stupid our "policy" and "plan" has been. Feel free to deny blindly supporting every one of them, and then suggest that we all get together and agree to do what the Huns did after they were done raping and pillaging and burn down the village.
How THOUGHTful (less) of you.
Glad to know we're relying on brilliant military minds!
Wasn't abandonment plan for New Orleans, for anyone dumb enough to build homes on land that is below sea
level?
THAT would surprise me.
We needed the money to rebuild Baghdad.
The war was going to be funded with Iraqui oil money!(part of plan #1 in case you forget the lies)
Losing your patience? McCain is willing to be there for 80 years. He said it, not me.
Let's sterilize Iraqui women, relocate all
who lost their homes in Louisiana there, and McCain would be right. In 80 years there would only be Louisianans living there. All of the Iraquis would be gone. VICTORY!
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MRCOFFEECAKE1 year, 7 months ago
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You've been declaring victory for the past 5 months and you've been supporting every lie since day one.
You have been part of that public opinion that helped Bush justify his continuation and supported his original entry.
Are you stating you are against our military being there now??
That would make you a liberal, you know.
Hey, that's your exclusionary dictionary, not the rest of ours.
Hallelujah, you can teach a chimp to write!!
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GHOSTWHOWALKS1 year, 7 months ago
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Drop Kick: That has to be the dumbest comment to ever break out of your idiot mind. Nuke them? Are you freaking nuts? Oh yeah and we would pay such a price for that stupidity that 100 generations would still bear the stain. Not to mention being hauled before the World Court for every crime in the books. You are by far the most ignorant idiot ever to be allowed to breath.
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ETproductions1 year, 7 months ago
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We are 5% of the earth's population. Start randomly nuking other people because your neocon chicken-hawk-lust requires it, and see how long the other 95% take to come together against us.
You want to take on all the armies of earth? They have 100 times the men in arms and 2 times the nuclear warheads we have. You want that fight? Go fight it with your neocon ditto-heads. Leave the rest of America out.
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