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ETproductions1 year, 7 months ago
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HannibalBarca1 year, 7 months ago
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No you did not win WW!!;..you helped win it! And WW!! was a different ball of wax, countries and armies fought each other.
Iraq as a country is defeated along with whatever army it had....now you are fighting against an idea and religion and an army can not beat those.
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ETproductions1 year, 7 months ago
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Baloney. After all the string of lies, you still believe the talking bush?
There are less than 6000 Al Qaeda operatives in a country of 26,000,000 people. Al Qaeda is a problem, and needs to be eliminated. But they are a bogeyman the bushies constantly trot out to suit their purpose. We have Al Qaeda on the run, and must stay the course. OR... If we withdraw now, Al Qaeda will take over Iraq and launch nukes to Washington and New York tomorrow morning.
Sorry, but both can not possibly be true. And since nothing else bush has put out has proved true, might as well assume both of these are lies too.
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jordan111 year, 7 months ago
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no Iraq is fighting al-queda and trying to not slip into civil war. We'll see if they can succeed. For their sake I hope so.>>>>
WHAT? They're IN a civil war! And what there is of al qaeda there, is helping the Sunni's against the Shiites, on top of attacking out troops. How can you be so wrong? I'm seriously worried about you.
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quackpot1 year, 7 months ago
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160,000 of the world's best trained soldiers supported by a huge force of private armies and several billion dollars a month...And, after five years of the battle against Al-Qaida Iraq, the enemy is at about the same strength (perhaps a few thousand, but nobody knows for sure) as shortly after the Invasion began (it did not exist prior to the invasion).
Do you see any problem with this picture crghss?
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dissent1 year, 7 months ago
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HannibalBarca: "now you are fighting against an idea and religion and an army can not beat those."
yep, but mostly we're fighting a hostile home team, what we call militia, offended by us crashing into their country, breaking the furniture and acting liking we're doing them a huge favor
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HannibalBarca1 year, 7 months ago
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Get your head out of your butt and go back to the books and read.
Where were the Russians on D-Day fool....the polish border and were facing a strong but defeated German army.
Your self righteous, holier than thou, looking down your nose at the rest of the Allies is what gives Americans a sh itty name....Thank the Lord and all the Saints that you are a flipping minority...you are just a John Wayne wanna be, and he got excused from military duty so he could make movies....HaHaHa
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Blackacereturn1 year, 7 months ago
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Now for the Russians, they won nothing the Germans defeated themselves by not preparing for the cold weather. They got caught in one of the worse storms of that winter and that was their demise nor any fancy fighting by the Russians whom has always been overeater in my eyes! I understand where revisionist history helps you to get over the fact that you were pass over by a so call colony and saved by them...
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disraeli1 year, 7 months ago
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Black,
I think that you need a bit of a remedial history course as regards the Second World War.
Suffice it to say your mistaken comments about the Russian victory over the Germans during the Great Patriotic War belies a significant gap in your knowledge base.
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Blackacereturn1 year, 7 months ago
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During the autumn, Zhukov had been transferring fresh and well-equipped Soviet forces from Siberia and the far east to Moscow (these troops had been stationed there in expectation of a Japanese attack, but Stalin's master spy Richard Sorge indicated that the Japanese had decided to attack Southeast Asia and the Pacific instead). On 5 December 1941, these reinforcements attacked the German lines around Moscow, supported by new T-34 tanks and Katyusha rocket launchers. The new Soviet troops were prepared for winter warfare, and they included several ski battalions. The exhausted and freezing Germans were routed and driven back between 100 and 250 km (60 to 150 miles) by 7 January 1942.
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disraeli1 year, 7 months ago
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And of course as we know the German's reached the zenith of their advance into Russia in the fall of 1942 (some 9 months after the Soviet counter attack of December 1941). The Germans clearly were not beaten in the winter of 1941/42.
The turning point, as I'm sure you will agree, was the defense of Stalingrad, followed by the encirclement of Von Paulus' 6th army. Even so it took a further 2-1/2 years of vicious fighting before the Russians got to Berlin's gates.
Your description of the Russian counter attack notwithstanding at no point was the German army routed. Individual units may have been, particularly the minor Axis partners (the Romanians and the Italians), the German army as a whole maintained fighting discipline to the very end of the war.
More generally I take issue with your claim that the Russians were secondary to the Americans in influence and effect on the eventual German defeat. That is simply not true.
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HannibalBarca1 year, 7 months ago
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No not really because 6 months later the Germans mounted there last major offensive attack,,,Kursk, the largest tank battle the world had ever seen to this day,
The Russians had a fantastic spy ring in Germany, some speculate that Borman was a Russian plant but whoever he was the Russians were prepared for all of Germany's attacks
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HannibalBarca1 year, 7 months ago
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If they Russians were such a poor adversary for the Germans, then why was 75% of German war material and men sent to the Russian front.
And you need to figure out...how did a country and army that in 6 months of fighting and having lost over 12 mill soldiers either KIA or POW's, losing most of their industrial land stop both Army Group North (1000 day siege of Leningrad)and Army group Center ( defense of Moscow) and a year later give Army Group South a sh it kicking at Stalingrad, 240,000 German causalities (Paulus's 6th Army)
I bet you still believe in the tooth fairy don't you.
And remember Stalingrad was over Feb 43, where were the rest of the Allies, Britian and the commonwealth in N Africa and USA at home.
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jimdoze1 year, 7 months ago
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What is the "idea" we are fighting? If you consider power and wealth to be "ideas", I suppose you have a case.
It seems to me we are fighting power grabs by a variety of entities... some of those from outside Iraq. Those attempting to grab power by force who are exclusively from within Iraq are bolstered by ethnic, tribal and cultural variants of the same religion. The stakes are extraordinarily high to those players in historical terms because if any one faction gains control, they control a resource that, in the context of any conflict through history, has extraordinary value. In an apt metaphor, oil will continue to fuel the fire for a long time.
We are not fighting an "idea", nor a religion. Military force IS necessary.
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