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A ceasefire crucial to recent security improvements in Iraq was today under severe strain after Moqtada al-Sadr called for "civil revolt" following a crackdown on Shia factions in Basra. Iraqi security forces in the southern Iraqi city encountered heavy resistance as battles broke out with gunmen from Sadr's Mahdi Army militia.

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  • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)GWHayduke
    GWHayduke
    March 25, 2008, 3:54 p.m.

    This is evidence that al-Sadr has far more influence on violence in Iraq than any surge.

    That being the case, we'd better prepare the mother of all surges.

    • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)joeblowe
      joeblowe
      March 25, 2008, 4:02 p.m.

      The sad thing is: I don't really believe a word of anything the press reports concerning Iraq. I have come to the conclusion that they - for the most part - simply parrot whatever line of Bul!sh!t the Pentagon is handing out this week. It DOES seem as though this al-Sadr guy has an inordinate amount of military effectiveness for a so-called "cleric" though. Why, I doubt if the Poop himself could raise as much hell as Moqtada, and he has MUCH fancier headgear. If it were up to me, I'd stop calling this guy a "cleric" and start referring to him as "warlord" al-Sadr or some such. Cleric my as*.

      • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)jovial
        jovial
        March 25, 2008, 4:29 p.m.

        How many more will die now?

        • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)vor
          vor
          March 25, 2008, 4:30 p.m.

          This was inevitable. We have allowed local warlords to self govern the region for nearly a year. They do not wish to be under Iraqi government control. When the British moved back they claimed their own little territories. We will soon see as well that empowering the Sunni in the North will result in the same. Small groups of consolidated power that have little interest in national unity. The government is providing them little and in return they have little respect for that body.

          Al-Sadr is playing this like a wise owl. He lay low during the Surge. He knows he cannot fight US forces successfully but he also knows he has elements outside of his brigade that are loyal to him in the Iraqi Army. Even if he dies he becomes a martyr.

          This is just the resurrection of an issue that Petraeus certainly sidestepped in his last visit to Congress. I remember thinking, "why doesn't anyone ask him about the consequences of the British withdrawal?" But it never happened...

          • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Grrr
            Grrr
            March 25, 2008, 4:48 p.m.

            Most of the drop in violence post-surge being claimed by the administration is due to the fact that we are paying Al-Sadr for the ceasefire.

            • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)tchef
              tchef
              March 25, 2008, 4:50 p.m.

              This is what I've been talking about for a while now. I would be willing to bet that no matter how long we stay, the minute we leave all out civil war will break out. Al Sadre is just waiting for us to leave, He knows it's only a matter of time.

              • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)pismo
                pismo
                March 25, 2008, 5:21 p.m.

                This guy and all the others like him will be a thorn in our side and the Iraqi government side from now until the cows come home.....

                • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Ratskii
                  Ratskii
                  March 25, 2008, 5:39 p.m.

                  Drop is a barbarian. Only his own tribe are human in his mind. He believes that killing millions of strangers or opponents isn't a crime. Still, I would think that even he would have some mind for the consequences of his proposed actions, unless he really is completely ignorant of the world outside his own neighborhood.

                  • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Howtogo
                    Howtogo
                    March 25, 2008, 6:24 p.m.

                    Ahaâ;¦ A leader of the religion of peace wants civil revolt. Does any one really believe Hamas or the religious leaders of the Muslim Religion in the east want peace? If so I have a bridge in Brooklyn available for sale.

                    • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)crghss
                      crghss
                      March 25, 2008, 7:01 p.m.

                      Why isn't more of this story in the MSM?

                      For or against, this story should be a lead item in the news.

                      • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)DrBenway
                        DrBenway
                        March 25, 2008, 7:30 p.m.

                        We can't leave Iraq! You know how much money this is making companies like Blackwater and Halliburton?

                        Have you liberals no thought of the shareholders and CEOs who won't be able to buy their fifth home if we just "cut and run"?

                        How about their new homes in Dubai? How are they going to afford to live their after they've sucked Iraq dry? You heartless, heartless people!

                        Sure people in American are now burning down their homes because they can no longer afford to pay their mortgages... but in the immortal words of Dick Cheney "So"?

                        No, this war must go on! Viva la unchecked Capitalism!

                        • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)nikkibabe
                          nikkibabe
                          March 25, 2008, 8:02 p.m.

                          Did the "SURGE" guy Iraq John meet with Mukhtada Al Sadr? You cannot go there, meet your military puppets and Iraqi government which is on US payroll, come back here and say "WE ARE WINNING".

                          You have to meet Al Sadr and ordinary Iraqis who live their lives.

                          John McCain is a big hypocrite and Bush poster child.

                          • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)mrwooly
                            mrwooly
                            March 25, 2008, 8:52 p.m.

                            Why don't we take this punk Al Sadr out? If he's going to turn those ****** lose on our troops, then he should have a taste of a 500 pounder.

                            • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Endoscopy
                              Endoscopy
                              March 25, 2008, 9:51 p.m.

                              listen to all the Demoshrills whine about something that has not happened and make a worst case scenario. The world is coming to an end. Our soldiers are going to die by the thousands. The Generals don't know what they are doing. Did I leave anything out?

                              • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)NoWayMan
                                NoWayMan
                                March 25, 2008, 9:53 p.m.

                                wait a minute. I thought we were paying out big money to the militias so this sorta thing wouldn't happen and Bush could market his surge as a success.

                                but this makes the Bush surge plan look so...fake.

                                I want a refund.

                                • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)nikkibabe
                                  nikkibabe
                                  March 25, 2008, 10:10 p.m.

                                  Quote: "Why don't we take this punk Al Sadr out? If he's going to turn those ****** lose on our troops, then he should have a taste of a 500 pounder.".

                                  The words of a war monger.

                                  FYI: Al Sadr is an Iraqi born there. US troops are foreigners occupying his country.

                                  IS 4,000 body bags not enough, for you?

                                  • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)GWHayduke
                                    GWHayduke
                                    March 25, 2008, 5:14 p.m.

                                    When will you be arriving?

                                    • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Grrr
                                      Grrr
                                      March 25, 2008, 5:21 p.m.

                                      Such depth .

                                      So you advocate crimes against humanity as foreign policy? You might be a Republican.

                                      • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)MRCOFFEECAKE
                                        MRCOFFEECAKE
                                        March 25, 2008, 6:01 p.m.

                                        Ohh. So that's your 8th or 9th strategy?

                                        We've lost count.

                                        Skip right over how stupid our "policy" and "plan" has been. Feel free to deny blindly supporting every one of them, and then suggest that we all get together and agree to do what the Huns did after they were done raping and pillaging and burn down the village.

                                        How THOUGHTful (less) of you.

                                        Glad to know we're relying on brilliant military minds!

                                        Wasn't abandonment plan for New Orleans, for anyone dumb enough to build homes on land that is below sea

                                        level?

                                        THAT would surprise me.

                                        We needed the money to rebuild Baghdad.

                                        The war was going to be funded with Iraqui oil money!(part of plan #1 in case you forget the lies)

                                        Losing your patience? McCain is willing to be there for 80 years. He said it, not me.

                                        Let's sterilize Iraqui women, relocate all

                                        who lost their homes in Louisiana there, and McCain would be right. In 80 years there would only be Louisianans living there. All of the Iraquis would be gone. VICTORY!

                                        • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)GHOSTWHOWALKS
                                          GHOSTWHOWALKS
                                          March 25, 2008, 8:06 p.m.

                                          Drop Kick: That has to be the dumbest comment to ever break out of your idiot mind. Nuke them? Are you freaking nuts? Oh yeah and we would pay such a price for that stupidity that 100 generations would still bear the stain. Not to mention being hauled before the World Court for every crime in the books. You are by far the most ignorant idiot ever to be allowed to breath.

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