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An 11-year-old girl died after her parents prayed for healing rather than seek medical help for a treatable form of diabetes, police said Tuesday.

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  • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)walden3
    walden3
    March 26, 2008, 12:07 p.m.

    Jeesh, where to begin. I feel bad for the parents because they didn't mean harm. That being said, they should be charged with child abuse resulting in death. The poor little girl must have suffered a horrible death. The other two kids should also be removed from the house until the parents are able to demonstrate that they are capable of exercising better judgment. It's fine to believe what you want, but your religious rights end at someone's else's health.

    We had a case like this in Massachusetts a few years ago where some "cult" members starved a little boy to death.

    • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Spadecaller
      Spadecaller
      March 26, 2008, 12:16 p.m.

      Oh boy! I sometimes wonder if people should need to get licenses to reproduce. When religious belief is used to deny the need of responsible health care, it becomes more of a threat to those we love than a source of comfort and protection. What a shame. Such ignorance!

      • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)RickyDawkins
        RickyDawkins
        March 26, 2008, 12:18 p.m.

        And now she is in heaven...

        • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)grungeplunge
          grungeplunge
          March 26, 2008, 12:18 p.m.

          Yes, they very probably didn't mean harm and it must be awful for them as well - but this is what comes off uncritically claiming to "knowing the truth" within whichever context, and that isn't restricted to religion alone. Where beliefs escalate to a mere upmanship of "I know more than you do" and someone gets hurt or even killed in the process, it becomes unpardonable.

          So yes, too: If this kind of thing goes unpunished, society and its organizational incarnation, the state, will arguably lose all justifiability in terms of their own raison d'etre.

          • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)tehranchik
            tehranchik
            March 26, 2008, 12:43 p.m.

            The black and white of it is---something as simple as an insulin shot would have saved her life.

            The mother still thinks she can be resurrected?

            It's one thing to do what you want with your own life but quite another when you are responsible for another's life.

            • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)jordan11
              jordan11
              March 26, 2008, 12:44 p.m.

              I've heard several instances of children being harmed like this lately. This is unacceptable, on any level.

              • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)joeblowe
                joeblowe
                March 26, 2008, 12:47 p.m.

                And the TRULY disgusting thing: those f'ing idiot people are probably SATISFIED with the outcome; "it's God's will that she be taken to heaven now." or some such bul!sh!t. It's unfortunate that someone who knew about this didn't get a judge to intervene.

                And another irony: These are probably the SAME freaking idiots that would carry a picket sign all day in front of an abortion clinic.

                And a question: If they took the girl to a doctor for immunizations, why not for life saving medical treatment? Did they simply get more and more mentally ill as the girl got older?

                • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)cowboygrandpa
                  cowboygrandpa
                  March 26, 2008, 1:19 p.m.

                  Yes she is. Where she no longer suffers from any ailment. Or stupid parents.

                  I truly believe in God, Christ and the Holy Spirit.

                  But when my children were sick or injured I not only prayed, I took them to doctors. Who had medical training and knowledge. I had faith that God would help my child with the knowledge he had given that doctor.

                  Someone needs to inform these parents that while prayer is called for so is action. When my grandson got hit by a car we prayed. We prayed when he was on the helicopter on the way to the hospital. We prayed when we were on our way to the hospital and we prayed and gave thanks when he was alright.

                  But we let the professionals look at him to make sure.

                  I wonder if these same people pray the coffee and food they need to prepare are done everyday? Or if they actually do what is needed and give thanks for being able to.

                  They need some serious help. With understanding a lot of things.

                  • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)not2needy
                    not2needy
                    March 26, 2008, 1:22 p.m.

                    Some times the answer is NO to prayers, and that's why God gave us a brain to think of the ways to help ourselves.

                    The Parents meant no harm to their child, but they need some consequences for their actions.

                    • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)djn3nunez3
                      djn3nunez3
                      March 26, 2008, 1:41 p.m.

                      Heartbreaking. I think the parents should be charged with negligent homicide.

                      • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Charlson
                        Charlson
                        March 26, 2008, 1:43 p.m.

                        And the child has three other siblings and the police sees no danger to them? They should be removed from these nut jobs. Sorry for the invectiveness but I'm pi$$ed!

                        • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Bkumm
                          Bkumm
                          March 26, 2008, 2:11 p.m.

                          And there you have it, ladies and gentlemen, the stupidity of religion at it's most evil.

                          Pray to save your child from diabetes (which of course human SCIENCE can treat) and then keep telling me we should teach intelligent design as an alternative to science in schools.

                          Go on, keep telling me.

                          • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)canadianrancher57
                            canadianrancher57
                            March 26, 2008, 2:16 p.m.

                            I wonder if the childs parents where badly injured in an accident if they would seek medical aid or just pray to be healed. If one wishes to mess with ones own life fine but when it comes to other peoples lives especially children I wish some of these people would clue in.

                            • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)djn3nunez3
                              djn3nunez3
                              March 26, 2008, 2:53 p.m.

                              Dear god,

                              http://www.lyricsfreak.com/x/xtc/dear god_20147941.html

                              • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)2sidestoeverything
                                2sidestoeverything
                                March 26, 2008, 2:57 p.m.

                                I can't say to much more than what was said above and I'm to angry to say what I'd like to about these parents so I will end with I hope these parents suffer in there death they same way they allowed daughter to.

                                • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Harbeas
                                  Harbeas
                                  March 26, 2008, 3:02 p.m.

                                  How do these parents now that it was God's will? It could just as easily been God's will to give the little girl the medical attention she needed. If the little girl got the shot and still died, THAT would be God's will! Sterilize both parents so they can't kill anymore of their children!

                                  • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)quackpot
                                    quackpot
                                    March 26, 2008, 3:36 p.m.

                                    This couple takes advantage of the modern miracle of electricity (they own a coffee shop) but not the modern miracle of insulin?

                                    As sad as this story is, it is nothing compared to what the Bush Administration is doing.

                                    This couple killed one person with their "faith-based" approach to diabetes but Bush is killing millions with his "faith-based" approach to sexually transmitted diseases. An approach that requires that 1/3 of anti-AIDS funds be spent on this "faith-based" nonsense.

                                    • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)IanFraigun
                                      IanFraigun
                                      March 26, 2008, 3:40 p.m.

                                      Religion was designed by prehistoric man to try and make sense of what he did not and could not know. We now know much about many of these things due to thousands of years of increased knowledge.

                                      Relegion can still clam a mind facing major issues in life both physical and emotional. If it does that then all the better for the individual.

                                      On the other hand we know that there are aspects of science that can help with many things including some severe illnesses.

                                      Using our human intelligence properly we should take advantage of all those achievements of men and if needed still rely on religion to emotionally calm us, but we should never ever try to use religion to cure what mankind has found the ability to cure.

                                      I had a minor stroke several years ago and am on anti-coagulants for life. If I would decide to use religion and give up the medicine I say to those who know me they should have me committed for attempted suicide.

                                      These parents are to blame for what happened.

                                      • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)sue2008
                                        sue2008
                                        March 26, 2008, 4:17 p.m.

                                        did they not notice their prayers is not working????

                                        • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Helixbuilder
                                          Helixbuilder
                                          March 26, 2008, 4:19 p.m.

                                          Ah... nothing like those who are so blinded that they can't see the miracles of medical science.

                                          • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)morcedial
                                            morcedial
                                            March 26, 2008, 4:38 p.m.

                                            Yet another casualty attributable to the human invention responsible for more death and suffering than any other - RELIGION

                                            • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)an15dy
                                              an15dy
                                              March 26, 2008, 5:20 p.m.

                                              There a lot of people who are miss informed, the parents included. For them to expect some babble to heal their daughter it's absurd? Surely they went through some ailments in their lives that they prayed, and prayed about and it never releived the pain, it never helped, after that you'd think someone would get the hint, "there ain't nothing there!!!!!", quit being cheap... go see a @#@*#& doctor!!!

                                              • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Harbeas
                                                Harbeas
                                                March 26, 2008, 6:32 p.m.

                                                How in the world did Bush and politics get thrown into this?

                                                • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Bkumm
                                                  Bkumm
                                                  March 26, 2008, 11:03 p.m.

                                                  Well, you may not believe one word of it, but this isn't the first time this has happened:

                                                  http://www.masskids.org/dbre/dbre_2.html

                                                  http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/gues...

                                                  So, there you have it.

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