Poll: Pastor Controversy Hasn't Hurt Obama »
Posted By Aidenag 1 year, 8 months ago in NewsThe racially charged debate over Barack Obama's relationship with his longtime pastor hasn't much changed his close contest against Hillary Clinton, or hurt him against Republican nominee-in-waiting John McCain, according to a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll.
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injest1 year, 8 months ago
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Let's see in the last week we've had Hillary telling us about her World Experience both Real and Imaginary.
Obama making it absolutely clear that never heard, did hear, never heard, did hear his pastor's racist sermons.
And McCain's trip to Europe and the Middle East meeting with World leaders.
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NoWayMan1 year, 8 months ago
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Aidenag1 year, 8 months ago
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Exactly, it really didnt do much damage. the only people making a big deal out of it are people who would never vote for him in the first place. We all know the types, they are the ones getting a kick out of calling him a racist, anti-american, muslim plant who will sell america to osama. And a good chunk of them are using these as excuses to hide their real agenda, which is hatred of him for the color of his, and his pastors skin.
And i know, ill get yelled at for saying that, but look at those people making these attacks. They sure don't have a problem with the racist, anti american pastors that Reagan,Bush Sr.,Bush Jr., and now McCain follow. Pastors who go and create colleges that the GOP hire from almost exclusivly now. pastors who have 1000 times the reach Wright does with their tv networks, and radio shows.. In fact they defend them daily as 'good wholesome christians' for spouting out many of the same things rev wright is being attacked over.
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joeeddie1 year, 8 months ago
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Here's a Rasmussen poll that says differently:
http://www.propeller.com/viewstory/2008/03/27/p...
The key statistic is that from March 13th to March 24th Obama's favorable rating went down and his unfavorable rating went up. The same thing happened to Clinton's numbers. McCain, on the other hand, had his favorable rating go up and his unfavorable rating rating go up.
This controversy has not only hurt Obama, it has hurt the Democratic ratings as a whole.
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joeeddie1 year, 8 months ago
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Here's a Gallup poll that shows differently:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23725259/
I've covered Rasmussen & Gallup. Are there any other polling companies that "say the same thing", NoWayMan?
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cowboygrandpa1 year, 8 months ago
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None of it is good for the Democratic party though. I mean so many are saying they will vote for MCain if either Hillary or Obama is the candidate. The Republicans must be laughing their as*es off over the stupidity of the two campaign managers.
Instead of building each other up and saying either way America wins with one of us. They tear each other down and say negative things that will be used against them by the Republicans.
McCain doesn't have to campaign against them they are doing it for him.
Stupid is what it is. No wonder we can't get a president in the Whitehouse of a Democratic persuasion for very long. The Republicans just sit back and wait for their Democratic rivals to start tearing each other down.
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tkyrchncs1 year, 8 months ago
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Nailed it in one, CBGP. I agree with Bill, as usual--I am thrilled to have a choice between a black (sorta) man and a woman that I actually can vote for for President. I have said for a few months now to my friends that a lot can happen between now and November, and it is unwise to act like we have the Republicans beat. They are both acting like they are just running against eachother.
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crespi1 year, 8 months ago
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Spadecaller1 year, 8 months ago
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tkyrchncs1 year, 8 months ago
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quiescence1 year, 8 months ago
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The republicans cannot win if they campaign on real issues, because a large majority of Americans believes that the republican party is on the wrong side of nearly every substantive issue on the table. Their only viable strategy is to use swift boat tactics to deflect attention away from their utter and nearly complete failure as a party to have done anything that serves the interests of the nation.
Many of today's republicans would have a hard time getting elected as assistant dog catcher of the smallest town in America if they had to campaign on real issues.
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kboy1 year, 8 months ago
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It is part of the whole candidate. The same way you should look at voting records, past political alliances and overall social actions. If you blindly support someone because they are a good speaker and never look at the person, you are asking for trouble.
You should look at where the country will be in four years of the candidate's leadership. that where you want to be?
Remember Jimmy Carter!
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Will13131 year, 8 months ago
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Remember Jimmy Carter
the Jimmy Carter who left a comprehensive plan to reduce and eliminated our dependence on foreign oil.. put solar panels on the White House.. put in tax credits as incentives for renewable energy....
only to have Reagan remove the panels and incentives within the first year in office..
that Jimmy Carter...
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nostalgia1 year, 8 months ago
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That may be true in the national polls but it does seem to be making a difference in PA
Real Clear Politics:
"Just how bad is documented by some key findings from a series of recent polls. Almost none of the results bode well for Obama. Clinton is winning and winning big. She has decisively stopped Obama's earlier momentum in PA."
"Obama has actually slipped slightly with blacks and more substantially with young voters--2 demographics that are critical for him in the contest. He has lost support with other key constituencies - white males and evangelicals."
"Equally important in understanding Obama's problems is the week or so of rough patch he endured during the controversy over his pastor. That period probably produced a greater increase in his polling "negatives" than any other in the campaign. From just mid-February to mid-March, he sustained a 10 point decline in his favorable ratings according to the Franklin & Marshall College Poll."
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ybdogsct1 year, 8 months ago
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NOSTALGIA:
"That may be true in the national polls but it does seem to be making a difference in PA. Real Clear Politics."
Your OWN RealClearPolitics.com website has Obama AHEAD of McCain. Did you miss this detail?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/pr...
Obama: 45.1% McCain: 44.9%
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motivator9111 year, 8 months ago
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anyone who's inspiration on sunday comes from a spiritual advisor that spue's hate such as this so called man of god is not qualified to run as school board member of your local high school let alone leader of the greatest nation in the world .......you know the nation with the stars and stripes he desires to be commander and chief of yet has to be coached to even face our flag . remember we are as sucessfull as those we surround ourselves with, and although in his own way I guess you could say this so called reverend is succesfull, it is not the kind of success I want my commander and chief to adhere to.
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bek4231 year, 8 months ago
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I am a middle-aged white woman who fails to see what all the fuss is about. What exactly did the pastor say that isn't true? I love my country, but lots of things have been done by our political leaders and those with money and power that are pretty outrageous. Why is it such a big deal to say so?
And by the way, in my opinion there is NOTHING that any president can do which would be worse than getting the country involved in an unnecessary and unwarranted war. So I don't care if a farm animal runs on the democratic ticket in November, I will vote for it over any Republican right now.
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Will13131 year, 8 months ago
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djn3nunez31 year, 8 months ago
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"Why is it such a big deal to say so?"
I don't thinks it a big deal to people who can honestly look at the reality of what our interventions overseas have cost not only for the people in the countries we intervene in but also for our own people.
Now when you talk about the Republican neo-cons, well I think they are making a fuss because they want more than anything to run McCain against Hillary because they think McCain has a better chance against her that against Barak.
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Reignman1 year, 8 months ago
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Bottom line is this, the Democrats are in complete chaos!! Obama's " Racist" preacher has hurt him nationally, nice try at spinning but you liberal secular loons know the facts its already evident and trying to deny it just makes you even more ignorant then you already are.. You democrats should be ashamed and disgusted for how your party is acting.
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Wolfie20071 year, 8 months ago
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Rasmussen doesn't agree with the WSJ, check it out.
http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/03/27/...
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cowboygrandpa1 year, 8 months ago
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ani:
Yes crime is terrible especially gang violence. The same thing is happening thru out the country. You can thank the stupidity of all politicians including your beloved party.
This should have been stopped long ago. Oh btw when the Italians or Irish do it is it OK? Or how about the Mexican Mafia? I'm just wondering if all that is Ok as long as it isn't African American On African American?
Here's a thought, lets just continue to push more people into poverty and see what happens next. Soon it won't be poor against poor for there will be nothing to gain from it.
That is why the GOP financial plan is a complete failure and pipe dream. They expect people to accept being treated like dumb cattle. Just continue along into the slaughter with no thought of fighting back.
What we are seeing is sadly just a warm up of what will happen if we continue on this path of foolishness.
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walden31 year, 8 months ago
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Maybe I'm too jaded by ridiculous American politics and equally ridiculous American elections, but all of these starry-eyed, hopelessly hopeful Obama supporters are in outer space.
Don't get me wrong Obama would probably make a fine president, definitely better then the pooh throwing chimp that's in office now.
Do you think if it came out that McCain's pastor said Jews controlled the banks or that black people are lazy, do you think it would affect McCain's chances?
Wake up!
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tchef1 year, 8 months ago
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Just an observation (not an attack) but you seem really disillusioned (to put it mildly) with the process. I've never seen you this negative before. I know during the hight of the Rev. Wright sermon debacle I was really depressed and was starting to get down right nasty in my responses, so I took a break.
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BB641 year, 8 months ago
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GWHayduke1 year, 8 months ago
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I thought you WERE a Bush supporter.
No president in HISTORY has spent as much as Dumby.
Course you must like him because he's asking your descendents to pay. Well, unless you consider the mass declaration of bankruptcy throughout the nation as a result of foreclosures and bank failures.
Not to mention the devaluation of the dollar as a result of stagflation.
Money (like freedom) aint free!
Heckuva job Dumby!!!!
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automan9091 year, 8 months ago
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Obama has been hurt badly by his association with the so called reverend. If he were white and associated with David Duke it would be bad for the white guy too. Don't just judge him on that though. Don't forget how Obama voted against the law that protects infants from being killed after they are delivered if they have a birth defect. That means crippled kids, downs syndrome, ect. To be for abortion is bad enough but this is a baby out of the mother with a heartbeat that went full term. Opps... it's not perfect. Lets kill it.
How sick is that?
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automan9091 year, 8 months ago
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Obama also has a history of not even voting on a large number of occasions on issues in the Senate. Like he wasn't doing his job right in the Senate either. Geraldine Ferraro was right. The only reason he is there is because he is black.
I'll bet that you all would vote for Edie Amin if he was running instead.
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automan9091 year, 8 months ago
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Check it out for yourself. Obama's voting record is lousy. Check the second page where he didn't even vote on lots of issues.
He was a slacker then and he will be a lousy President too.
http://obama.senate.gov/votes/
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BB641 year, 8 months ago
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Auto, well said. When he first showed up in Milwaukee for a rally, my fiancee and I attended. He said nothing about anything of substance. I tried learning about his voting record but found he voted present more often than anything else.
As to his church, I don't get why people aren't asking why he stayed for over 23 years in a racist congregation. If he isn't a racist, I'm confused why he stayed. If you choose to associate with racists, you're probably one of them.
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motivator9111 year, 8 months ago
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BEK423...SAID... I am a middle-aged white woman who fails to see what all the fuss is about. What exactly did the pastor say that isn't true? I love my country, but lots of things have been done by our political leaders and those with money and power that are pretty outrageous. Why is it such a big deal to say so?
roflmao you are either a black racist trying to be white or a lost white woman trying not to be racist either way when this so called reverend claimed aids was invented by our government he did in fact mean white people if not who was he talking about colin powel, condelezza rice c'mon wake up it is ok to call a spade a spade and it is ok to call a racist a racist no pun intended.
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DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year, 8 months ago
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Punctuation Pete says you need more than one comma in that last paragraph
but you can't go around playing semantics and what people meant
you have to deal with what was said, what's on the page
or you may start projecting thoughts into people's heads that aren't there
and start smacking people for looking cross-eyed at you and saying ambiguous things
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