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bobo-in-texas1 year, 7 months ago

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Well I'm expecting this to be called, lies, hate, racism, etc.
The usual Wright Wingnut stuff.

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    joeeddie1 year, 7 months ago
    
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    He's asking for a banning. That had to be the biggest bucket of whine I've seen on Propeller.
    Obama has been hurt in the polls. Every poll that I have seen shows a spike downward in the middle of March. A downward spike running against Hillary and, more importantly, a downward spike running against McCain. Did something else happen around March 14th that would explain it?
    
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      Klarissa1 year, 7 months ago
      
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      Joe, I think that people are thinking of their own churches, past and present.
      They are thinking about how they would feel if they heard hate sermons in their church.
      Obama's close friend Wright is bringing out these feelings - and they just has to be negative.
      
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        joeeddie1 year, 7 months ago
        
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        That's a very sympathetic point of view, Klarissa. I wonder how many clowns from yesterday will tell you that???
        
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        Lurch1 year, 7 months ago
        
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        I don`t get this babble about Reverend Wright.
        Is he Obama`s Reverend Hagee or something?
        http://dev.artvoice.com/blogs/2008/03/27/revere...
        Oh, or is ok for McCain to seek a hateful, racist reverend but not ok for Obama to distance himself from a hateful, racist reverend.
        Hmm, can you spell hypocrite?
        
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      NoWayMan1 year, 7 months ago
      
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      spike downward?
      are you talking about the 6 point dip from the time this all started until now? (btw, six point is nothing)
      are you talking about hillary's present lead on Obama (49-42) that was the exact same lead back in feb (49-42)?
      are you talking about the fact that in the latest Gallup Poll obama's approval rating is actually higher today than it was in feb?
      are you talking about the Pew Poll that just came out that says there has been no negative effect on Obama's campaign?
      or the WSJ poll that said the same thing? or the CBS poll?
      didn't think so.
      you guys are precious.
      
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        joeeddie1 year, 7 months ago
        
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        NWM - The precious one is you.
        February: Hillary led 49 to 42.
        March (post Wright): Hillary leads 49 to 42
        What happened in between?
        Obama made the February lead disappear quickly. Now that progress he made is gone. Wright had nothing to do with that?
        
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        JamesMarcus1 year, 7 months ago
        
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        There's no doubt that Obama was at least temporarily damaged by his connection to Jeremiah Wright. But as to whether he's recovered that lost ground--well, as usual, it depends on which poll you're looking at. According to Gallup, he is now leading Hillary Clinton by four percentage points, and is a mere two points below his pre-Wright high. Me, I take all polls with a great big grain of salt. And that applies to exit polling as well.
        Gallup:
        http://www.gallup.com/poll/105724/Gallup-Daily-...
        
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        joeeddie1 year, 7 months ago
        
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        I don't take polls too seriously either, James. They do help fire the debates. I know several times I have mislead pollsters by giving incorrect answers, usually because they ask directed questions. The WSJ poll had very clean questions. The biggest area that I saw an effect from Wright was on how McCain's numbers jumped up in relation to running against Obama or Clinton.
        
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        ybdogsct1 year, 7 months ago
        
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        JOEEDDIE:
        "I don't take polls too seriously either, James. "
        Maybe this will help. The website RealClearPolitics doesn't rely on a single poll. It simply averages the results of 6 national head-to-head polls. It shows Obama having a slim lead over McCain, and McCain having an ever slimmer lead over Hillary.
        http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/pr...
        Obama: 45% McCain: 44.3%
        Clinton: 45.0% McCain: 45.5%
        You can also see that the apparent outlier within the 6 head-to-head polls is the same Rasmussen poll which this article and BOBO cites EXCLUSIVELY, while ignoring the results of the other head-to-head polls, which have Obama in the lead or have the race in a statistical tie.
        Of course, it comes as no surprise that BOBO and ANIOKLY (in another thread) would cherrypick the SINGLE poll (Rasmussen) that would mollify their preconceived misconceptions and would ignore the other 5 head-to-head polls that contradict it.
        
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        ybdogsct1 year, 7 months ago
        
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        RDY:
        "the polls I find most striking are the negative ratings of all the candidates which suggest a pretty deep polarization."
        In that case, you'd be interested in this poll from the Wall Street Journal (which is generally considered to be a conservative publication).
        http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120657171729866...
        OBAMA: "49% view Obama positively to 32% negatively"
        MCCAIN: "45% view McCain positively to 25% negatively"
        CLINTON: "48% have negative feelings toward her and 37% positive, a decline from a net positive 45% to 43% rating in early March."
        
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        NoWayMan1 year, 7 months ago
        
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        "Obama made the February lead disappear quickly. Now that progress he made is gone. Wright had nothing to do with that?"
        Barone, in his article, tries to make it as if the number shift was rather significant. but if you look at the numbers, there have been much more significant number shifts between the two candidates in the same amount of time (like between feb 1-feb 14, when the nubers shift was twice as big as in the last two weeks).
        point is, Wright may have caused a small blip. but that's it. and all the numbers I've been showing you prove that. all the polls spell that out.
        
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    rightfromwrong1 year, 7 months ago
    
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    This idiot Wolf Blitzer (x - Jewish lobbyist) of CNN has been harping on the is one line for over a week and they don't about mention anything about his distinguished army career or the good he has done.
    Then the story about Hillary comes out on her lying about coming under sniper fire and they almost completely whitewash it. Then she says she mispoke which of course is another outright lie!!!!!!! She is desperate and she will say of do anything to win. Just ask the 47 or more people who were advisers/body guards who worked for the Clintons in the past. Oh...sorry, you can't because all of them are dead and many under very suspicious circumstances. Dead men don't talk!!!!!!
    
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  ETproductions1 year, 7 months ago
  
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  BoBo congratulated himself as follows: "Well I'm expecting this to be called, lies..."
  I wouldn't call it a lie. Spin would be more accurate. It's not "Polls Show". The Truth is "A Poll Shows."
  Since that poll is from RepugniCon spinmaster Scott Rasmussen, and since it conflicts with a whole host of other reliable polls, I doubt it indicates anything more than the Repugs continued wish to get Hillary nominated as their Democratic opponent. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Rasmussen
  Conflicting Polls:
  Pew: http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2008/03/pe...
  Gallup: http://www.gallup.com/poll/105724/Gallup-Daily-...
  WSJ/NBC: http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/document...
  Fox News: http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/032008_rele...
  RCP: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/pr...
  
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