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Posted By Aidenag 1 year, 8 months ago in NewsBarack Obama has a problem. Nearly a quarter of Democrats who hold a negative view of him believe he is a Muslim, according to a poll published by Pew Research on Thursday. Yet most Democrats who think negatively of Mr Obama also disapprove of his link to Jeremiah Wright, the pastor who introduced him to Christianity two decades ago.
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not2needy1 year, 8 months ago
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I am glad about all the articles that have been submitted about Obama on here. All the people who tooted their horns about being from the party of Lincoln, raved about Bush having the most diverse cabinet of any other pres, now show their true colors. Bigots!
Obama wasn't even raised by his father, nor was he raised by his step father, he was raised mostly by his grand parents and they weren't Muslim. All any intelligent person would have to do to get to the truth, if they wanted the truth, would be to read Obama's bio or watch his biography on the biography channel.
All the vicious rumors and enuendo hasn't kept him from basically defeating Hillary thus far, i don't think it will stop him from here on out, otherwise we will have more Bush years and we can't stand any more. They have already bled Americans dry, there's no more to get!
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ETproductions1 year, 8 months ago
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So true, not2needy. The RNC uses diversity to get votes but confined to subordinate levels, where "those people" can easily be controlled. Witness Colin Powell, who was purged and Condi, who did as Masta said, regardless of what that entailed.
The Willie Horton ad. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC9j6Wfdq3o
The Harold Ford ad. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/10/26/polit...
The modern KKK is smart enough to use code words now instead of lynchings. But the racism is just as clear today as it was when they lynched opponents and burned crosses to intimidate anyone who opposed their oligarchy. And its purpose is just as clear. To maintain an oligarchy.
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Goppy1 year, 8 months ago
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Well put yourselfs in our Christian Cosnervatives shoes!
We are lookin at a complete failure of the Bush administration - an administration we believed in with all our harts.
And to get that Bush in office, we REJECTED John McCain!
Now, Ill let that sink in. ...
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aGain, in 2000, we considered John McCain to be a very poor second (or third) best choice after Goerge W. Bush.
So now, after the incredible failures - at almost every level of governance - of the Bush administration, we are sayin that we now want America to accept what we already REJECTED!
So, we are really in a very, very weak position.
And as any Machiavellian political manipulator will tell you, when you dont have a good quality candidate, you smear the other guy any way you ken.
And you do it early, often, and loudly.
Plus, it dont hurt that we Conservatives OWN media. How many tiems have you heard bout Reverend Wrights comments compared to John Hagees?
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Goppy1 year, 8 months ago
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You ken bet that we Conservatives woulda dug up something on any of them candidates.
Look, smearin candidates is what we Christian Conservatives do.
It dont matter that our candidate, (who we already rejected TWICE) has done nearly THE SAME THING!!
Actually, I think what John McCain did in pursuin an endorsement from John Hagee is far more worse than Obama belongin to one of the most mainstream black Christian churches in Chicago.
John McCain SOUGHT OUT an endorsement from THIS FELLOW!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdroHjMipCk
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rightfromwrong1 year, 8 months ago
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Sadly this is the case. At least he is not a liar like Hillary
and I can only hope people wake up before they give her the nomination. She doesn't care about Americans...she cries only for herself. If she becomes President it will be another dark cloud over America. She really is arrogant and she shows her sense of entitlement. Let's call he "PRUNE FACE"!!!!!!
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Amazing11 year, 8 months ago
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The ignorance of a portion of our populace is overwhelming. How can people be so stupid and manage to live? How can he be Muslim if his pastor is Christian. Do the people who hold these inconsistent views understand what they think they believe? In credible.
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bruhaha1 year, 8 months ago
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Those who actually believe it believe it because they want to. Then there are those don't believe it but see absolutely nothing wrong with lying because it might get their guy elected....funny thing is, THEY call THEMSELVES Christians.
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Searchbeam1 year, 8 months ago
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It is really interesting to read the comments by that pompous windbag Pat Buchanan, giving a sermon on ethics and morality, when his only claim to fame comes as a speech-writer for that eternally condemned crook who became the only modern President who left the Office in disgrace. Pat and his posse of crooks of Nixon years have poisoned our political landscape for a long time! It is best if they walk into political sunset and let the world say a final goodbye to their poisonous era.
Pat thinks that because he was born white, the white race is superior! His charitable concession to the Blacks is the ultimate insult he throws at the Black Americans. He has absolutely no moral authority to open his mouth and spew hatred.
This guy is a living, breathing Confederate Flag!
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2sidestoeverything1 year, 8 months ago
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Obama is in a tough spot he is of both the black and white race and when he first started his campaign he was not considered black enough, now because of Pastor Wright he is considered too black and of course we still have people saying he is Muslim. It is getting tiring that the media keeps putting the race out there when Obama is working hard not to make his campaign about race. I am an Obama supporter and feel that he will come out of all this a stronger man.
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buckheadd1 year, 8 months ago
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ALL ABOARD THE OBAMA/BUCKHEADD TRAIN!
A vote for Buckheadd is a vote for OBAMA!!!!!
(Be warned as you look at the difference between these two astonishing photos)... really, be warned!
http://members.home.nl/saen/Special/Zoeken.swf
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HowEyeCit1 year, 8 months ago
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Remember Michael Jackson? Brittney Spears? The media loved them then once they're sick of them they tore them apart when they wouldn't show them love.
Its kind of funny not too long ago the media built up Barack Obama heck they even nudged him into the race. And like Julius Caeser he initially turned the offer down.
Then they nudged him some more and finally he caved/decided to run. I mean if they really didn't want him to run why'd they nudge him into the race in the first place?
No too long ago he also was substantially touted by the media to be in the lead and all was good.
Not too long ago the media started reporting about his potential ties to Tony Rezko. Sure Hilary Clinton's party members may have put it out there but who spread the fire?
No too long ago Barack Obama's Pastor made some controversial remarks. Who do you think linked them to Obama? Here's the deal the media routinely builds up people then tears them down as they see fit and call it entertainment.
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Mdiar1 year, 8 months ago
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My only disagreement is that the media was never really for Obama. Remember when it was Clinton v Giuliani in November? How it remained like that even when Giuliani was losing and how Obama's victory in Iowa, while a surprise, meant little? How New Hampshire was a bigger test and how the media built Obama way way up there, so much in fact that the media forgot just how far Obama HAD come by not losing that state in a land slide? The media has been against Obama, Paul, Kucinich, Gravel and most of the other candidates from day one. Even the "negative" coverage of Hillary (when they didn't question Obama's patriotism with flag lapel pins and placing hand on heart during National Anthem) was alongside negative coverage of Obama. Then they'd go on to discuss why Hillary would win.
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HowEyeCit1 year, 8 months ago
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I didn't really finish what I had meant to say. The media in essence is trying to separate Obama from his faith. They used his Pastors racist remarks as a knife and he already denounced those remarks. Some on here seem to be trying to do the same as the media by calling al Christians liars. I've come to realize something America's a twofaced country no really it is. On the onehand in the constitution is there not a clause that calls for a separation of church and state? And yet that very clause was essentially violated with little regard for morality, rhyme/reason, or law. Nevermind the fact that on numerous occasions Obama has rejected the implication of him being Muslim.
The message I read from them is "Nevermind the fact that everyone in this country except those who are completely native american is an immigrant (yes even the english) we don't want an immigrant as president."
And yet we've had some have we not? Technically every single 1 of our initial first few...
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TOD3961 year, 8 months ago
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I sit here and wonder what you said of the media during all of the other skeletons they had dragged out on other candidates from across the aisle? Were you so sure then, that the media invented this hype, just to sell, as you now claim against poor innocent Obama?
Or, is this your way of justifying the support of yet another same old, same old? Obama is no different than Bush, Hillary, or any other career politician. He too talks out of both sides of his mouth. Why did Obama finally, after only a mere 20 years, decide to publicly denounce Wright's remarks as racist and offensive? Why did Obama make such a racist remark that his grandmother's point of view is "typical white thinking"? Did Obama personally talk to a large sampling of white people to come away with this knowledge? It is a fact that his church is mostly black. Is this where he got his knowledge of what typical white's think?
Face it, Obama is not your saviour. He is part of the problem...
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fsev411 year, 8 months ago
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The Muslim and Pastor Wright charades are nothing more than a mask for the truth. Its far more politically acceptable to hate Muslims and "anti-Americans" than to admit the basic racism that feeds the distrust or hatred for he whom is half black. And this is what I think Mr Obama is trying to bring to the forefront and try to find a solution for. I hope he gets the opportunity.
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sanityinchaos1 year, 8 months ago
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Obama is just another Kerry. Flip Flop. First he stands by his minister, mentor, marrier etc. Now he is throwing him under the bus. People are getting tired of this rhetoric. If he is a Christian then he would be sworn in on a Bible.
If he loves his country he would place his hand on his heart when appropriate. Etc etc etc. Too much
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Goppy1 year, 8 months ago
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Oh sainty, I see several things rong with your comment.
ONE. He DINT throw that paster under the bus. In fact, thats WHY Conservatives have been lambastin him! Conservatives have been lambastin him for NOT rejectin him.
(Although - just between you and me - I realize you are doin that angry Conservative thing and if he HAD thrown him under the bus, we woulda screamed bloody murder bout that too! Cause, you know, we exist to divide our nation.)
TWO. Man Alive! Even I, a C student from The College of Creationism knows that you are talkin bout a completely different person. The man who was not sworn in on the Bible was Keith Ellison - a practicin Muslim.
If you loved this country of ours, you would at least try to get your facts straight. GOODNESS!
Either you are completely stoopid - or you are partakin in the time honored Conservative Smear Blast.
Smear Blast example:
"Ladies and Gentlemen, my opponent is a PRACTICING HOMO-SAPIENS!!"
It only works on the ignorant.
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Mdiar1 year, 8 months ago
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He was sworn sworn in on a bible... he still stands by his minister, he just disagreed with him. If he rejected his minister, he'd have done the politically expedient thing and stopped associating with him in any way. He was unaware that it was considered correct to place his hand on his heart at that time, the networks got what was occurring at that time incorrect. It wasn't the Pledge and they recanted that position, I believe. Obama hasn't flip flopped as much as Hillary "I Dodged Sniper Fire" Clinton.
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automan9091 year, 8 months ago
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I'm not voting against him just because he was too stupid to know what his preacher was saying on Sunday for the last 20 years. Not because he refers to white's as "you people".
Not because he threw his grandma under the bus. Not because he won't respect the flag by refusing to put his hand on his heart, or wear a flag pin. Not because his wife, by her comments obviously believes in the reverends words. and certainly not because he is black. I'm not voting for him because he is a socialist. He has a very bad voting record in the senate where on many occasions he did not even vote. He also voted no to a bill that would have prevented babies from being killed AFTER BIRTH due to a deformity. That is murder.
I am not voting against him because he is black, however I am sure that all the black folks that vote for him are doing so because he is black. Remember the "not black enough" comments? Now I guess he somehow got darker.
So who is the racist now?
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bonaroo1 year, 8 months ago
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As far as I know, there's no place on a ballot to vote against a candidate. Knowing what you don't want in life only gets you part of the way to getting what you want. Maybe that's why you're going to end up with a candidate like McCain.
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Rayman1 year, 8 months ago
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So what if Obama is a Muslim? Is that a crime? Should his faith be questioned because he is black? This fear that Obama might be a Muslim is pure 'IGNORANCE' and 'cold hearted PREJUDICE'.
The white majority is racist towards blacks and other minorities. Why don't we question the 72 year old John McCain who still lives in the 60's as a POW. This white dude is so angry and ready to invade the entire Middle East to prove his pointless views. McCain is just another George Bush!
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lum-chate1 year, 8 months ago
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If 90% of the Muslims are for him that doesn't make him a muslim, its obvious why 90% of the blacks are for him. But what does this do to his silly notion about bringing the country together in harmony, it kind of tears that notion apart, doesn't it?
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Rayman1 year, 8 months ago
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Yes, 'automan909', racism started by people like you who still dream about slavery and segragation. It is black vs white because YOU made it an issue by questioning Obama's background and heritage.
Racism is 'LIVE AND WELL IN AMERICA', thanks to those who make comments like 'automan909' or should I say,'whiteautoman909'!
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CORVIDIVS1 year, 8 months ago
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MAYBE I'M JUST REPEATING what has been stated earlier,as I haven't read all the posts,leaning into late breakfast instead,but isn't America & all that's Apple Pie the Land of Opportunity,where considering employees is bereft of any spiritual considerations.... Sounds like some kind of breach of civil rights,all this speculation.The Great melting Pot.Land of the Free... blah blah blah.OOPS....(sorry)
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automan9091 year, 8 months ago
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In case you have not noticed corvidivs we are the freest of all countries. Why do you think everyone wants to come here?
By the way...Civil Rights for blacks and not for whites is racist all by itself. Not to even mention affermitive action.
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gamahuche1 year, 8 months ago
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"we are the freest of all countries"
Either you've never been anywhere else in the last 20 years or you're blind.
US freedom USED to be a benchmark for the world - except in a significant part of the country if you were a colour other than white. And you're darn right that MANY people came to the US because it was a place where people could be free.
NOT ANY MORE!
Democracy and the US parted company with the illegitimate election of 2000.
Freedom died on 11th September 2001.
Human respect died with the flooding of New Orleans.
International respect for the US with the invasion of Iraq.
The patient will hopefully recover after a few generations in intensive care.
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Klarissa1 year, 8 months ago
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"In case we find ourselves starting to believe all the Anti-American sentiment and negativity, we should remember England's Prime Minister Tony Blair's words during a recent interview. When asked by one of his Parliament members why he believes so much in America, he said: 'A simple way to take measure of a country is to look at how many want in.. And how many want out."
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lvrofwolves1 year, 8 months ago
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That is my point Klarissa, do you think illegals come here because they respect America, they want to become good citizens of America, to live the American dream?? I don't! When most immigrants came to America they were interested in becoming good Americans, learning English, our laws, our ways etc...alot of these people now just want to come here to make $ and send it back to their family. They take from us, they are commiting crimes just by being here. If they wanted to come here because they loved America, that would be a good reason, but IMO most of them just want to come here and use us.
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gamahuche1 year, 8 months ago
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Bliar is hardly a respected authority on anything these days and his blind a**-licking of GWB particularly soils his reputation for good judgment.
As for the people trying to get to the US - when you track where they are coming from this speaks only of the hideous unfairness of economic circumstances which they "enjoy" in their homelands and nothing of political support for the US system which is a factor in the very poverty from which they are trying to escape.
Many of them live in conditions in the US which US citizens would consider third-world.
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CORVIDIVS1 year, 8 months ago
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"In case you have not noticed corvidivs we are the freest of all countries. Why do you think everyone wants to come here?"
THEN IT'S 'OKEY-DOKEY' to call you on that,following the spirit of the moment,and have Apple Pie & All That's Right elect unblinking a Muslim pres... Now THAT would be a wake up call for the somnambulant automatons that have a vested interest in 'freedom'...
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annoDomini1 year, 8 months ago
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It is sad that race has always played such a large role in human relations. It is disappointing that it continues to be such a problem. Sen. Obama may be a half-black, half-white man, but that is not the reason to vote for him.
Vote for him because he respects the dignity of all people.
Vote for him because he works for social justice.
Vote for him because he embodies transparency in gov't.
Vote for him because he was wise enough to recognize the wrongness of the war in Iraq BEFORE we invaded.
Vote for him because he won't reject Rev. Wright for speaking God's truth to the powerful. (We should all be so faithful.)
Vote for him because he is smart and compassionate.
Vote for him because he listens to all sides of issues before making decisions, but is beholden to no corporations.
Vote for Sen. Obama because he is the best hope for America's future.
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Wolfie20071 year, 8 months ago
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anno
None of the things you cite are really true except rejecting Rev Wright and yesterday he hinted he was going to leave the church if the Rev hadn't of retired. Of course, he did have him on his campaign staff. This guy is fluff with no substance other than his political philosophy based on Marx and Lenin. How many times do those ideas have to proven failures before you understand?
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annoDomini1 year, 8 months ago
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Interesting.
I have heard Sen. Obama quote the Bible, Patrick Henry, Jack Kennedy, Thomas Jefferson, Martin Luther King Jr., Franklin Roosevelt, Shakespeare, and the Beatles; but, I have never heard him quote Marx or Lenin. Strange how we can experience the same life so differently.
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gamahuche1 year, 8 months ago
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"his political philosophy based on Marx and Lenin"
Wolfie - I don't believe that you have EVER read one word of Marx or Lenin and that you are the one with fluff and no substance around here.
I challenge you to write a summary or a critique of ANYTHING that you have read by either one or the other!
100 literate words will be fine, preferably avoiding the use of expressions like "hadn't of".
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agentX1 year, 8 months ago
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Gotta love aniokly- the crap that comes out of his keyboard is the stuff legends are made of.
I'm getting tired of people saying "he hasn't been vetted" or "he's not strong enough" or "his wife's not patriotic enough".
Just swing by media matters, click on Barack Obama, and look at the list of smear, distortions and racist rants (lynching party, anyone?) and look at how many are released per day. PER DAY!
Of course, Clinton's been getting it for years. But no one is saying she's not ready. Well...after the video was released, there's some serious questions right there.
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Dep11161 year, 8 months ago
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I'm tired of hearing that Obama isn't ready along with all the smear tactics and distortions. Who is ever really ready! You don't take classes for the job. Why is everyone clinging to the hype about Rev Wright anyway. He is just another preacher using the pulpit to vent his views. I have been to many a church and didn't always agree with what I heard. All I know is that my state has lost over 250,000 jobs since NAFTA, the economy sucks right now, and all people can talk about is barack's pastor, he's not strong enough and slights about his wife's so-called lack of patriotism. No one is talking about the fact that Hillary just got caught lying. Let's just stick to the issues please. Gas prices are through the roof and it's killing me so I want to hear about what's going to be done about that. It's time for a change and if he has good plans to take this country to a better place than I'm all for him. I just want some results and I'm tired of the same old politics.
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injest1 year, 8 months ago
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You need to read these polls carefully. Most are pure spin
Example
"Has Barack Obama been hurt by his association (Wright), now revealed to most American voters"
True.
Note: "American voters" not Democrats, Republican or likely voters (and how many other classifications you can name)
Pew Poll (Wright) "no negative effect on Obama's campaign"
True
Note: "Obama's campaign", His campaign is to win the Dem Nomination for President. We can exclude in this poll Repubs, "American voters", Dems who have already voted in their primaries, FL, MI.
Also note polls change daily.
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PatrioticAmerican1 year, 8 months ago
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Oh whaaaaa im obama and ppl make fun of me WHAAAAAAAAA why cant they just let the fact that i belong to a anti american church and that my pastor is a racist and that im a muslim and that i asssociate with people like Faracon and reverend Not so wright and that my dad is a radical muslim and so is my step daddy and that i talk but dont really say anything and that im not black enough oh wait i am too black go and vote for me cause im a nice guy, i mean there is no way im ready to be president when ive only been in office for 3 years and 2 of that has been running for president, and ive only missed about 80% of the votes in my state cause im too busy too go back there and do MY job. WHAAAAAAA i want to be president more then anything and i should be elected just for that reason.
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annoDomini1 year, 8 months ago
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Sen. Obama's church is only anti-American to the extent that when America does not live up to God's demand for justice and righteousness, Rev. Wright says so. It's a shame that our society is so selfish and brutal that we don't care for the poor and the outcast. It's a double shame when our Christian preachers point it out to us and our response is to call them anti-American.
No one is a stronger pro-American than the American who calls on all of us to stand behind what America stands for.
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annoDomini1 year, 8 months ago
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If even half the people of the US did as much to serve others as Rev. Wright has done in his life, this country would be such a much more perfect union than it is now. Shame on all of you who are chastising Rev. Wright. America is only as noble as we make her. And when we have not been righteous and we allow injustice, Rev. Wright has stood in the pulpit and on the street and in the neighborhood meeting and said so. He is speaking truth to power, just like so many prophets who have come before. And what did Jesus say about Israel? Oh, Israel, how often have I longed to protect you, but you have rejected the prophets that I have sent.
And here we are now, in the US, rejecting God's words again. Why? Because they are so hard to hear...
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annoDomini1 year, 8 months ago
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Now we have a candidate running for the Presidency who has spent much of his life so far dedicated to serving others. I don't know if he will be the leader we are hoping for and I'll bet he has doubts about it too. (That's the way he is.) But it's time to elect a President who genuinely cares to serve the people.
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annoDomini1 year, 8 months ago
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Klarissa,
I agree that Pres. Carter was similar in some ways. He was (and is) someone who earnestly wants to serve others and has done so. While Pres. Carter is seen by many as having been a weak leader, I think perhaps historians will view him more favorably than either Pres.s GW Bush or Clinton at least as a person, if not a Pres.
Pres. Carter made one VERY serious mistake: he got the leaders in Iran to calm down and talk and start to trust him, only to call a failed helicopter strike across the desert. At that point, the leaders of Iran would no longer negotiate with him at all.
It is possible that a Pres. Obama could make mistakes too, but it seems unlikely that he will make as many mistakes as the current Pres. Is he likely to do better or worse than a possible Pres. H Clinton or McCain? From what I see, he is likely to make decisions more wisely. Sometimes boldly and sometimes tentatively, but always considering first what is right.
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CORVIDIVS1 year, 8 months ago
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... What 'frightens' me,really,is the climate for 'change',the open door for reams of sincere oaths,placards on the wall saying 'change',a miracle epithet if ever there was one that will invoke the substance all by itself... just HEAR the message and thou art saved...
Millions scattered willy nilly to the winds that we might once again feast on words that are somehow familiar,not tritisms,surely...
Yes, I am 'frightened' likened to putting on a comfortable old shoe...
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doppich1 year, 8 months ago
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Apparently, if one is not a member of the Obama Adoration Brigade, one is a racist pig. No in-between. This binary thinking is a remnant of BushWorld that will outlive his administration. It should be recognized as a Bush legacy, along with war and economic ruin.
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