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Posted by: BronxBomber 1 year, 8 months ago

Former Marine and Iraq war veteran Jonathan Schulze killed himself just days after he was told he was number 26 on the waiting list for the St. Cloud VA's PTSD program.

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  • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)BronxBomber
    BronxBomber
    April 1, 2008, 7:05 p.m.

    Ciera Marie had asked me to post this disturbing trend whilst she is studying for exams. This really is her story, and thanks CM for bringing this to the forefront. This is very alarming indeed!

    • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)jordan11
      jordan11
      April 1, 2008, 7:04 p.m.

      This is just tragic. How can these veterans needs be invisible to us when they're in plain sight. If the VA has no room, then we must give them other resources. PTSD is a crisis, and it can't be put on waiting lists.

      • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)BronxBomber
        BronxBomber
        April 1, 2008, 7:16 p.m.

        My two nephews served bravely over in Iraq,received injuries while they were there, one of them recieved a Purple Heart while in combat. Both had seen they're buddies whom they been to basic training with die being blown up by civilians... some who are children...teens!. They were never in the same frame of mind when they both came back. The war took away they're innocence above everything else, and they are dissillusioned by this administration to say the least, but otherwise. I am happy that they did they're tours diligently, served honorably, and are back in one piece....they were truly the lucky ones. But at what price?

        • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)dadesider
          dadesider
          April 1, 2008, 7:28 p.m.

          So freakin' sad...

          • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)HOUSEMD
            HOUSEMD
            April 1, 2008, 7:32 p.m.

            That's why they say, War is hell. My heart & my respect goes out to our troops.

            • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Mdiar
              Mdiar
              April 1, 2008, 7:42 p.m.

              Suicide is a horrible thing. I never wish to see this happen to any veteran due to PTSD or conditions not stemming from combat. These people have given much for us, we need to give some back in return. Thanks Bronx and Ciera.

              • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)scott4261
                scott4261
                April 1, 2008, 7:59 p.m.

                This makes me so f***ing mad! We should not even be there!

                • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)texangelwings
                  texangelwings
                  April 1, 2008, 8:03 p.m.

                  This is so sad! I don't know what it is like to fight in a war nor to feel the pain that our soldiers must feel! I know my dad was in his 70's before he spoke of what he experienced during WWII.

                  This is breaking my heart!

                  Thanks Ciera and BB!

                  • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Dicax_Maximus
                    Dicax_Maximus
                    April 1, 2008, 8:44 p.m.

                    Typical Govt... Ship 'em out, ship 'em back, forget 'em...

                    Same in the UK.....

                    It's more than pathetic, I just wish there were laws that could be used to sue the politicians for damages... Then, maybe, we might ALL see a reduction in both wars & casualties (both mental & physical)....

                    Then again, what politician would EVER let there loved ones go off to die or get injured ??? Very dammed few....

                    • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Francisca
                      Francisca
                      April 1, 2008, 8:54 p.m.

                      So many wasted lives....What for?

                      • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)icono1
                        icono1
                        April 1, 2008, 10:17 p.m.

                        Interesting that the same politicians that are very fast to send young men and women in harm's way to defend the "American way of life and democracy" seem to be the first Americans to forget the citizen-soldier when they return from a tour of duty in a combat zone. Maybe the next time the Generals and the Politicians need go to fight the next war they started for their idea of the great 'American cause' then they can compare notes with the veteran Grunts about the Hell of Combat.

                        I'm sure it would be a very short and basically silent conversation. For if you have ever been in combat the last thing you want to do is sit around the metaphorical camp fire trading 'war stories'. There is no glory there; just memories of extreme fear and mindless death 24/7. And it is best to let sleeping dogs sleep if they ever do.

                        Our Govt is run by soul-less & God-less people that think only of their bottom line and nothing else.

                        • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)Ciera-Marie
                          Ciera-Marie
                          April 1, 2008, 10:45 p.m.

                          Thanks BB for posting this for me. This is happening all over the country and not just here in MN.

                          • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)uncle-dave
                            uncle-dave
                            April 2, 2008, 12:20 a.m.

                            If the suicides aren't bad enough, there's another dark side of this war that is being swept under the rug. Namely the rape of female soldiers and the indifference and hostility that they face upon reporting this crime.

                            FTA:

                            "We have significant concerns about the military's response to sexual assault in the combat zone," said Christine Hansen, executive director of the Connecticut-based Miles Foundation, which has assisted 31 women. "We have concerns that victims are not getting forensic exams. Evidence is not being collected in some cases, and they are not getting medical care and other services."

                            http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0125-08...

                            • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)ETproductions
                              ETproductions
                              April 2, 2008, 12:34 a.m.

                              Perhaps the most telling misstatement of the chicken hawks behind this monumental foreign policy blunder was Cheney's claim the George Bush has suffered the most in this war. When a stunned Martha Raddatz of ABC asked about the 4,000 dead and their families, Cheney dismissively replied, "They volunteered."

                              • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)daducha
                                daducha
                                April 2, 2008, 3:51 a.m.

                                Anybody who witnesses and experiences a war will never be the same person again after. Nobody wins in a war.

                                • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)RussianThreats
                                  RussianThreats
                                  April 2, 2008, 9:50 a.m.

                                  Good comments all.

                                  Always wonder where the usual gang of neocon armchair soldiers are when this type of story is presented...or why they have nothing to say.

                                  • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)bill2936
                                    bill2936
                                    April 2, 2008, 11:36 a.m.

                                    I wonder how much of the stress is because they are fighting in a war in which ever action they take will be second guessed by CNN, Time, Murtha, MoveOn.org, ect.

                                    • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)dunkirk
                                      dunkirk
                                      April 2, 2008, 11:42 a.m.

                                      Sad truly sad when you go to war based on lies for profit and then further the problems by neglecting those ho were sent to fight it. With REPUBLICANS as friend you truly dont need any enemies.

                                      • Avg rating: (+0/-0 0)MoheyShaheen
                                        MoheyShaheen
                                        April 2, 2008, 11:57 a.m.

                                        oh my god !

                                        it's very sad story :(

                                        thx

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