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Grrr1 year, 8 months ago
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In less than 10 years we would have used up ALL the oil reserves you are talking about developing. We must curtail our demand before we can start rationing our domestic reserves, or it is a pointless effort with no payoff to anyone but big oil. There is no sense whatsoever in what you propose.
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BB641 year, 8 months ago
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First the reserves I talk of include Alaska and off our coasts in addition to the North Dakota and Montana reserves. Also, when I mentioned the coal solution, it's very real. I work with a very large Swiss based firm specializing in everything from weapon systems to pet food plants. We're building 9 plants in China to convert coal into a crude type slurry that will then be refined into coal based gasoline. We hold more coal reserves than most of the world combined. When we tap that reserve, we will have an energy solution for the next 400 years, based upon your gloom and doom energy predictions. In that time, we would be able to solve many of the other options without having a knee jerk reaction to a problem. Like ethanol.
Build conversion plants, refineries and the like now.
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Grrr1 year, 8 months ago
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You are completely ignoring my earlier post. It doesn't matter how many reserves you talk about, until you get up to about 100 billion barrels harvestable for less than it costs to buy it outright. That might last us 10 years, IF we start reducing our need now, instead of continuing the increase. Plus it still has the worst aspect, in that it is very dirty fuel, both to develop and burn. It's a pointless waste of resources to develop another extension of the inevitable depletion. And yes, wilderness and wildlife are diverse resources of the likes that we cannot manufacture. If we we were to invest like levels of resources into pushing the commercialization of hydrogen cells, we fix the problem forever. Unlike strategic missile defense, it is feasible technology. And big oil should have been building those plants and refineries and the like during the last several years of record profits, instead of putting it off until crisis hoping we the taxpayer will foot the bill for them.
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BB641 year, 8 months ago
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You're claiming I use old data, you're way behind in coal. Sure if you build the same plants the Germans did in the 1930's you're creating tons of waste, not today. Unlike then we have commercial uses for about 98% of coal based slurry. Everything from medical, power, plastics, and even road materials are now possible from this process. Plus you can control the carbon content of the gas and diesel in this process far easier than you can from crude oil.
As to the wilderness, do you really understand the vastness of the ares you're talking about. They cover millions of acres and we're talking about a tiny portion of that. Again, this isn't the 1930's. I work with energy and hydrogen cells are fun but we're really years out on that. At least on how to create it in a safe way. On hydrogen, I'm not sure which process you're talking about. My firm has been working on this for several years without coming up with a commercially solution.
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Grrr1 year, 8 months ago
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Again, what in my posts are you talking about? Where did I mention coal plants? Yes, we use commercially almost every bit of the result of refining, but that doesn't have anything to do with mitigating the effects of continuing to burn carbon based fuels as our predominant means of transportation around the globe, on land, sea and air.
And to get an idea of the supposed vastness of the wilderness areas we are talking about, perhaps we should compare them to the very real and true vastness of the wilderness that we have needlessly and senselessly destroyed already? What is left of the amazonian rain forest is truly vast, yet pales in comparison to what it once was, the rate of deforestation, and it's effects on our atmosphere, many of which are unknown. For all the studies on how much oil is in ANWAR, how many have truly studied the effects of disturbing such regions beyond it's effect on local wildlife? Ignorance on behalf of unbridled capitalism is still ignorance.
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aceofspades11 year, 8 months ago
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BB64 - you work for a foriegn company based in Switzerland, the country that is giving Iran unlimited credit to do nuclear experments, you are developing an industry in China , the last remaining communist country AND YOU HAVE THE NERVE to criticize the comments of a REAL AMERICAN????
You sir are the one who presents the real threat to this country.
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BB641 year, 8 months ago
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Not at all. My firm was purchased by the Swiss. With their money we were able to keep the American jobs American. As to the credits, the companies doing the work are Siemens and some Russian firm(or firms I don't know). China came to us, made an offer that included a lot of R&D money and we took it. Hey, we can do the same here but our leaders are too busy worried about baseball players and non-binding resolutions to actually do the job we hired them to do.
As to being a real American, I do take offense to that comment. Because of our efforts in China and India, we're keeping jobs here in the USA unlike guys like GE, Siemens, Walmart, Sears and even the DoD.
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