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aceofspades11 year, 8 months ago
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LOL destroy wilderness?
Have you ever been in southern Louisiana, the most polluted state in the nation? You can see the devastation caused by the petrochemical industry there. - Miles of bleached white dead tree trunks sticking out of the swamps full of working & abandoned well heads.
Most of this was caused years ago by mismanagement, but it is a lesson the be learned for the future.
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BB641 year, 8 months ago
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Ace, you didn't read his message. What you've described was the wildcat days of 75 years ago. Today that's not the case. Often the well sights are cleaner than the surrounding towns.
Also, I've been to LA. If the swamps are green, oil didn't kill the trees. Most of the trees you're talking about were killed by the salt water of the ocean washing into the swamps during storms. It the lower plants come back faster, it will take many years for the trees to fully return. At least where I visited in LA.
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aceofspades11 year, 8 months ago
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BB64 b- this subject must be very important to you ,seeing that most of the posts are yours.
Pehaps in your zeal you are the one not comprehending what others have wriiten you said--
Ace, you didn't read his message. What you've described was the wildcat days of 75 years ago.
I said it was in the past - a lesson to be learned for the future.
you also said ---
, oil didn't kill the trees. Most of the trees you're talking about were killed by the salt water of the ocean washing into the swamps during storms. It the lower plants come back faster, it will take many years for the trees to fully return. At least where I visited in LA
That's precisely it - you have tunnel vision "at least where I visited in La."
Go down to Houma you can see the forest of white trunks of trees killed by the pollution - not the salt water. Many of those wetlands were not as wet when the trees thrived.
S.La. is rapidly losing to the die-off
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slate1 year, 8 months ago
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Yeah I've been there hundreds of times, and as you said that was the past and this is now and it's done cleanly.
On one hand I bet you don't mind if we back woods folks have trashed lands and have to live among the petrochem plants and refineries, so you can live in a pristine world and have your gas for your rice burner, the electricity for your lights and natural gas for your heat; as well as the real things you have around you that it takes crude oil to make. Gasoline and electricity is most likely the smallest portion that we use crude oil from.
If we get rid of oil as you wish and whine for, what will you use to make all the 'other' stuff? What will you use to replace the chemicals that we use for our medicine,,,, the roofs over our heads, the plastics for almost everything we use and the other 100,000 products that depend on it?
Drill in your own back yard, and stop you dependence on the southern states to 'deal' with the pollution while you enjoy your clean life.
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BB641 year, 8 months ago
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Slate, I tried getting Milwaukee to work with me on that. We have the old AO Smith Plant and the Pabst plants. Thousands of acres with plenty of access and infrastructure. They wouldn't budge. I would like to see higher paying jobs than the fast food joints and resale shops.
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aceofspades11 year, 8 months ago
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Slate - I agree with you - the need for fossil fuels is a modern day fact - I've been to the Alaskan pipeline - no environmental disaster as was predicted. I'm simply saying that proper oversight & management of our resources is vital for our survival.
I feel much less diminished as a human if a snail darter dies than I do if some indigent freezes because of lack of fuel for heat.
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slate1 year, 8 months ago
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I agree, humans are more important than animals, unfortunately there are some that disagree.
This 'radical right winger' works in the Environmental Consulting Industry. One part of my job is to oversee remediation of soil and groundwater contamination, so I do know first hand the impact of people not being good Stewards of the planet.
With that being said, what we see now for the most part is that we are cleaning up the past sins of the industry instead of present sins. Not that the sins don't still happen, humans can be slobs and lazy. However with the new regulations and the very hefty fines levied out the petrochemical industry tends to follow the rules for the most part.
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slate1 year, 8 months ago
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I still get miffed though when people whine about drilling and removing crude from the ground as if there is a guarantee of a Biblical disaster and would never agree to have anything like that around THEIR areas, yet they have no problem with the 'southern' states doing it because after all, why would those in other parts of the country care about the south being trashed as long as we keep sending them what they need.
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