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    Fangarius1 year, 8 months ago

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    Before you groan with this citation, another good example about how censorship doesn't always effectively work was from a Brady Bunch episode. The one where Bobby inadvertently idolizes Jesse James because he read somewhere the infamous outlaw considered himself "The Robin Hood of the West."

    In one scene, Mike and Carol decide on allowing Bobby to watch a prime-time movie about Jesse James (remember in the 70s, prime-time wasn't always for kids). Regrettably, because network censors ended up extracting the violent scenes where James killed people and terrorized them, the altered version fuels Bobby's admiration for the outlaw.

    Whereas in relation to this, Spade has also proven as well, another problem with Censorship is the double-standard, where we utilize the guise of 'protecting' our youth, but in reality, we tend to stifle the skills for us thinking for ourselves and making proper choices on what's appropriate and inappropriate in our society.

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      Fangarius1 year, 8 months ago

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      Returning back to Skeptic, you're right about the movie ratings system, and all ratings systems in general. They are a form of censorship, but in a Bizarro sort of way.

      Originally, ratings were developed in helping parents and others determine what could and could not be shown to certain audiences. Regrettably, nowadays, the media has utilized this system as a means for 'anything goes' than genuinely using it for it's true design.

      For instance, when Showtime first came out as the first pay-movie channel, the purpose was showing unedited, uncut films in your home. Now Showtime was responsible when they first came out, their schedule allowed them to show certain movies (and later shows) at certain times. Morning - classic movies (G - Rated); Prime Time - normal movies (G & PG); Night - After Hours programming (R). Due to the fact Showtime was their own network and one had to pay for it, the FCC didn't regulate it.

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        Fangarius1 year, 8 months ago

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        So naturally, the Adult Industry immediately took notice. As long as your audience paid for the access, you didn't worry somuch with censorship. Meaning they started making their own cable channels as well, and the argument here was, if somehow a child did gain access to their channels, it wasn't their fault, because the parent "allowed" it to happen. (Sort of falling back on the old, 'Dirty Magazine' policy).

        In relation to this, whenever a warning label or rating is issued, the media believes rather than it serve as a censor warning, it's like a golden ticket for them to say, do or act, regardless of the consequence.

        As a result, we subtly become desensitized rather than discretionary over what we read, interact and discuss with others. Therefore, it's odd with every decade on what we consider is acceptable and not with our society. Because eventually, there will come a day where we'll censor ourselves right out of existence, if we're not careful.

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          Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 8 months ago

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          Well said Fangaius, much to consider there. I still would rather err on the side of free speech, as condoning any censorship leads directly to authoritarianism. Regardless of intention.

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            Endoscopy1 year, 8 months ago

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            How many children do you have? When a parent wants to take them to a good show how are we to know what is in it. That is what ratings are for. Cat in the Hat was a shock for parents taking their children to see a harmless Dr. Seuss story. I left glad that my kids didn't understand a lot of it. I bet that DVD sales tanked for a reason.

            Children NEED to be protected from different kinds of material. Why should they be subjected to things before they have a need to know. Or are you one that thinks porn and filthy talk is a good thing for little kids.

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              Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 8 months ago

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              I have 2 children. I stayed very involved in their choices regarding consumption of pop culture well into their teens. I never had to say no, because if they wanted a film, a game, music or a book and I was not familiar with it, they had to explain why they wanted it, what it was about, etc. and we listened-read-watched together. Though a handful of uncomfortable moments arose, they led to discussions of why something was valuable, or not. My daughter is now a brilliant physicist and my son is still a teen, with a good sense of what is of value to him and what is not. The most uncomfortable stuff was always television- particularly news since the 90s- obsession with issues I felt were inappropriate to discuss with children (Particularly those Gingrich republicans who insisted on talking endlessly on the oral details of Bill Clinton's sex life 24-7. That was the worst of it. I didn't see Cat in the Hat but Mike Myers humor is not really appropriate for young children in my opinion.

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                smithichie1 year, 8 months ago

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                I don't understand how somebody with a computer could be "shocked" by not knowing the general content of a movie these days. Didn't you read anything about the movie or ask someone who had seen it before having to walk out of a movie with your kids? You point out the ratings but didn't you read them? According to IMDB, "The Cat in the Hat" is,"Rated PG for mild crude humor and some double-entendres". That sounds to me ample warning that it's not the harmless Dr. Seuss story we all loved. Ratings in place, children protected.

                I do agree with your reasoning on why it flopped. They should have stuck with the audience Dr. Seuss intended his story for. If they had done it right they would have also appealed to us parents who grew up with it, but they got greedy and went for the bottomless pockets of the male teenager.

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