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Posted By not2needy 1 year, 7 months ago in Science & TechnologyEarth gives off a relentless hum of countless notes completely imperceptible to the human ear, like a giant, exceptionally quiet symphony, but the origin of this sound remains a mystery. Now unexpected powerful tunes have been discovered in this hum. These new findings could shed light on the source of this enigma.
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not2needy1 year, 7 months ago
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FTA:
The planet emanates a constant rumble far below the limits of human hearing, even when the ground isn't shaking from an earthquake. (It does not cause the ringing in the ear linked with tinnitus.) This sound, first discovered a decade ago, is one that only scientific instruments - seismometers - can detect. Researchers call it Earth's hum.
Investigators suspect this murmur could originate from the churning ocean, or perhaps the roiling atmosphere. To find out more, scientists analyzed readings from an exceptionally quiet Earth-listening research station at the Black Forest Observatory in Germany, with supporting data from Japan and China.
Who knew the earth had a hum!? I wonder if it's caused by the speed at which the earth revolves etc.
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Mdiar1 year, 7 months ago
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I wonder if it hums to any tune? Did ya know the sun sings?
http://solar-center.stanford.edu/singing/
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not2needy1 year, 7 months ago
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No i didn't know the sun had a ring! I guess i'm not too old to learn, only problem is, it's more exciting to learn at my age now than it was when i SHOULD have been learning this stuff.
uhmm. Wait.. I don't think they even knew this stuff back then!
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Mdiar1 year, 7 months ago
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Mdiar1 year, 7 months ago
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Odd how much it seems to concentrate on that sort of stuff now, isn't it? Originally at least it tended to concentrate on history, now its just alien abduction stories... hmmm, what's on it now? Ahhhh, it seems to be about the moon Europa! A rather cold place...
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Will13131 year, 7 months ago
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I must have been "lucky" ... they do seem to shift the focus.....
I have participated in "market studies" / focus group for a local company.... one about BEER tasting which was right up my alley... and another was about programming for an UNKNOWN channel... it was either the History or the Discovery Channel...so I'm quite sure they do the same things politicians do... put their finger in the air so to speak to see which way the wind is blowing...
I don't watch anything too much.. but being a captive audience for a while is enlightening...
by the way nice to see you're back posting.. it seemed you were absent for a while.. or we just weren't interested in the same things..
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Mdiar1 year, 7 months ago
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I've not been the most active poster the last few days. I had some stuff to do. I've posted on a few threads but not much in that time, probably just not on the same threads. Yeah, they probably use focus groups and the like. I tend to have the History Channel on here 24/7, even when I'm not paying attention. A definite trend, particularly on Tuesdays, is tending towards general alien phenomena.
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not2needy1 year, 7 months ago
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The Learning Channel used to have a lot of science, paleo, space studies, history, etc on it. Now it's all self help, home decor, and design junk.
That's ok since we have Discovery and the Science Channels but sometimes i miss the old programming on The Learning Channel.
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Mdiar1 year, 7 months ago
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Doh N2N, I think you misread what I said or you mistyped. The sun doesn't have a ring, it sings! Like Pink Floyd!
http://solar-center.stanford.edu/singing/
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blinkers1 year, 7 months ago
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"Only the sun knows what we really need to know,
Only the sun knows the secret,
That more than human can we be, that humans truly locked, in this planetary circle......."
(Paul Kantner, in his hijacked starship, c1970. They don't write music like that any more.)
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Bkumm1 year, 7 months ago
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Ever heard a pulsar? How about the leonid meteor shower? The universe is a giant orchestra with every object, every particle giving off a vibration. Even us.
http://www.jb.man.ac.uk/~pulsar/Education/Sound...
http://www.spacesounds.com/home/index.html
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Eagle_Eye1 year, 7 months ago
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"The universe is a giant orchestra with every object, every particle giving off a vibration. Even us."
That is a fact that I have studied in the past and the reason why humans enjoy good music so much, it flows through us as vibrations, "Good Vibrations". Then there are the Bad vibrations, the sounds that irritate us.
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blinkers1 year, 7 months ago
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EE, you touch on a fascinating point -- during their short and dreadful administration in Afghanistan, the Taliban banned all music for that very reason, the enjoyment brought on by good rhythms and melodies was considered ill-suited to the strictures and dictates of their interpretation of Islam, medieval style.
(Sorry n2n, way off topic)
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lvrofwolves1 year, 7 months ago
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David Essex Rock On!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_mzadEFuP4
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Bkumm1 year, 7 months ago
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They say that you can hear the northern lights. I have not heard them myself, but there is some indication that you can hear them.
Of course, it may also be an auditory artifact from watching too many space movies with lasers and spaceships making sound in a vacuum.
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truthiness1 year, 7 months ago
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interesting asiide:
J.R.R. Tolkien wrote a book called the "Silmarillion" which describes the creation and history of his fiction world, "middle earth"
during the creation myth section, he describes a creator god, Illuvitar, first creating lesser Gods (angels), the Vanir, and together they cause all of creation and all of time to exist by singing in chorus. Each improvising around illuvitar. the stories tolkien then tells in his books about middle earth are supposed to be the stories written in those songs.
interesting if your in to fiction
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Bkumm1 year, 7 months ago
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Except for Melkor whose dissonant melodies, all brass trumpets and shouts which tried to down out the melody of the One only to be incorporated into it, were in opposition to Illuvitar.
I read the Hobbit first and then the Silmarillion before I read the rest of the Lord of the Rings. Best way to do it in my opinion.
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SonOfTheMask1 year, 7 months ago
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The Music of the Ainur is a wonderful creation myth. I'm a huge Tolkien fan. I read The Hobbit, then The Lord of the Rings, and then The Silmarillion. To me, that is probably the best order, if you are a younger reader (which I was...started The Hobbit in 3rd grade...LOTR in 4th grade...The Silmarillion in 6th grade).
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Bkumm1 year, 7 months ago
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It's a great one. I read the Hobbit at 11 and then got into Andre Norton's Witch World series and Robert A. Heinlein's juveniles. I didn't read the Silmarillion until I was about 16. Then, I blasted through the Lord of the Rings. It's the only Fantasy I'll read, although I did read Terry Brooks' Shannara trilogy (the initial one). His is a little different but just on the other end. Tolkien's work is the history of the world before the world was bent and Brooks's work is the future history after the catastrophe of nuclear war.
Tolkien made and then broke the mold for Fantasy.
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Mdiar1 year, 7 months ago
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Try checking out Jordan's Wheel of Time if you haven't already. If you pay attention at the beginning you can see that it takes place thousands of years after our time period. It starts with lots of generic Tolkien references then it goes a completely different place with a unique world. Overall its one of the few things I've ever read in fantasy that even approaches Lord of the Rings. I like how the author didn't put in Elves or Orcs or things like that into it and how he explains away the "shadowspawn" of the world as genetically created at the height of human civilization 3000 years before the world was thrown into a massive dark age (alot of the magic in the series is derived from this time period, its science in alot of ways).
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SonOfTheMask1 year, 7 months ago
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Well, I'd love to see Moraine return...I've been holding out hope for what, let's see, 5 books? LOL
I'm equally bummed out that the prequels won't get finished. I really enjoyed reading about the early lives of Moiraine, Siuan Sanche, Lan Mandragoran, etc.
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Mdiar1 year, 7 months ago
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Yeah, I wanted to read those outrigger novels, particularly the one about Mat and those prequels. Moiraine will be back, of that I'm certain. Throughout the series we had a few possible hints for her return but the most recent thing is basically confirmation. I think Jordan also said that Moiraine can't write a lie. Besides, she's a parallel to Gandalf. Also we figure out who killed Asmodean... that has been bugging me for years. What I'm interested in is to see the reunion between Gawyn, Galad, Elayne and Morgase. As well as seeing if Gawyn goes crazy and tries to kill Rand... Oh, have you ever heard of the "Mazrim Taim is Moridin" idea? If so that will be interesting to see.
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SonOfTheMask1 year, 7 months ago
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I'm not familiar with there being a story about Mat...where can I find that? I only know about "New Spring" which was the prequel that Jordan did publish. I'd read that he planned two more that would bring us up to the point that Moiraine found Rand, Mat, and Perrin at the beginning of "The Eye of the World".
Yeah, that whole Asmodean thing has been a burr in my saddle for years. I thought it was Ishamael or maybe Lanfear.
Taim sure seems like he might be a Forsaken, but not sure that he is Moridin.
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Mdiar1 year, 7 months ago
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It was planned on being written before he passed away, it was meant to take place ten years after the main sequence of books. He was planning on those prequels and a few "After" sort of things to show what happens with some characters, Mat/Tuon being one he said he had a general outline for. Taim is one of the most mysterious characters of the series. Personally I have an odd theory about when Moridin entered the series linked with the weather (remember the winter and Ishamael is defeated, it suddenly goes away? I think the Dark One works through Ishamael/Moridin to effect weather, putting him into the world when the endless summer hit, around book five). Moridin isn't Demandred, Jordan said he wasn't several times. Moridin seems likely if its any Forsaken, timing is right and its a great position, Taim displays Moridin's colors and hates Rand with a passion. Considering what Rand did to him as Ishamael, its only natural he would. I always assumed Graendal killed Asmodean.
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SonOfTheMask1 year, 7 months ago
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I didn't know Jordan had ruled out Demandred. I thought it might be Demandred in disguise, since I think he's the only male Forsaken not killed, right?
Maybe he's a Darkfriend that can channel. It just seems like he's too involved with Rand to ever slip away and be Moridin. ?
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Mdiar1 year, 7 months ago
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That was my initial thought as well. However how often do you actually see him doing anything? All you see him do is occasionally show up and give orders. Almost every actual act, after orders, is done through a proxy. Half the time he even orders people around he probably used Cyndane, Moghedien or Shaidar Haran. He really isn't very active after you think about it. We don't know where he or Demandred is located. Demandred is the main general, it would make sense if he were in the Blight somewhere planning for Tarmon Gai'don. If Taim is a Forsaken he has to be Moridin. We have evidence that Taim is a Forsaken. Though to be honest I just remembered a quote by Jordan putting Taim's age at around 35, so I suppose Taim is just Taim... possibly turned to the Shadow with a circle of thirteen. Definitely taking orders from Moridin though, looking at his "let the lord of chaos rule" quote and the red and black everywhere.
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Dionys1 year, 7 months ago
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"during the creation myth section, he describes a creator god, Illuvitar, first creating lesser Gods (angels), the Vanir, and together they cause all of creation and all of time to exist by singing in chorus. Each improvising around illuvitar. the stories tolkien then tells in his books about middle earth are supposed to be the stories written in those songs. "
Not much different from a lot of the Ancient Near East texts and creation myths, not to mention the Judeo-Christian version where it's the 'word' of God, God's breath and the wind of God creating.. Lots of angels around then ;)
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blinkers1 year, 7 months ago
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Wonder how that could be found, Mutainia?
The technology in those probes is incredible, also the tracking equipment used on earth. I've read that strange noises supposedly picked up from deep space have actually turned out to be molecules knocking together in the hardware used for detecting them!
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Mutainia1 year, 7 months ago
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I recorded the sound coming from Saturn, and, maybe I'll be able to post it for you guys. It sounds very sci-fi, like something from a 1950's B-movie space opera. Supposedly, though, it only sounds this certain way when put on a higher speed.
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joey-evans1 year, 7 months ago
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Actually, I have heard of this for quite awhile now.....I have seen reports of people hearing a "hum" continuously while other people around them don't hear a thing. Weird and unexplained is what they said. Somewhere near a place called Taos I believe. Interesting stuff.
JOEY EVANS
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truthiness1 year, 7 months ago
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perhaps the space aliens at area 51 are attempting to contact their home planet by redirecting their ships communication area into the earth's core. the EM field being generated by the spinning magma in the middle of all the iron is creating a wave field that their signal is riding like a ship without a rudder. so it is spinning about in these cycles before heading out into space.
soon the Vogans will come for their lost citizens. perhaps 2012.
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truthiness1 year, 7 months ago
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or maybe tiny little strings are vibrating at different frequencies and these frequencies determine what everything in the universe is. and now these frequencies are changing and soon we shall all be unmade. maybe in 2012. (although David Eddings says nothing can be unmade)
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canadianrancher571 year, 7 months ago
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It was mentioned that the sound can't be heard by humans but I sort of question that, When my wife and I sit out on our deck and she says how she enjoys the silence I wonder what she is talking about. For the last twenty years or so I hear a hum all the time and I have had my hearing checked several times and they say that there is nothing wrong. One old guy suggested to me that I do to much thinking and my brain has run short on lubrication some days I have to agree with him.
Interesting artical.
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blinkers1 year, 7 months ago
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Sounds in the ears (tinnitus) can have many aspects, cr57. You can hook up to a machine which allows you to create electronically the exact same sound you seem to be "hearing" in your head. Specialists can then "read" the sound via a detailed printout of the frequency/pitch/decibels etc.
As a chronic tinititus "experiencer" I have this check done regularly, and find that the noise has been constant for years, even though, to me, it has been decreasing in intensity.
The earth's hum is clearly not something just in our collective heads. It's out of our heads (hey, that sounds pretty good!)
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Isoparm1 year, 7 months ago
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Interesting article. What they're describing sounds like it could be harmonics of resonant frequencies. All these vibrations are running back and forth through the earth. Some will interact in which wave peaks will cancel, or re-enforce, depending on phase. These frequency interactions can form the ring phenomena that they described. Most of us have seen where waves seem to stand still in vibrating water filled containers., and take on the shape of the container, or rings.
Those waves are resonating at a particular frequency. Some of these harmonics would also allow for uneven distribution of some of this energy in the earth.
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