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    sotiris-k1 year, 6 months ago

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kerry_militar...

    Try reading more about it.

    By the way dont forget that segment;

    Several members of SBVT served in the same unit as Kerry, but only one, Stephen Gardner, served on the same boat. A number of Kerry's later SBVT critics claimed to have been present on accompanying Swift Boats, at some of the salient events of Kerry's enemy engagements in Vietnam.

    Other SBVT members included two of Kerry's former commanding officers, Grant Hibbard and George Elliott. Hibbard and Elliott have alleged, respectively, that Kerry's first Purple Heart and Silver Star were undeserved. In addition, members of SBVT have questioned the merit of Kerry's other medals and his truthfulness in testimony about the war.

    Defenders of John Kerry's service record, including virtually all of his former crewmates, have stated that SBVT's accusations are false.

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    The last sentence is telling indeed.

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      sotiris-k1 year, 6 months ago

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      You of course know what is taking the superpower down in flames dont you. The very fact that in 2008 with serious issues pending we have the amazing ever lasting devotion to finding as many topics as possible that can polarize and irritate each other. Yes lets relive 1968 because it is so very much relevant to 2008. Lets split rice over how big injury one had, how close to death he didnt come when the other guy is sitting safely half a world around protected due to his family's influence. Lets celebrate that shouldnt we? Lets smear , lets find lies , lets make people hate each other , lets betray all the nobility and sense of patriotism that ancestors once had . Lets belittle everything, lets live the future in the past immersed in lies, lets close our eyes to our problems and try to find who's pastor said what, how many ways a sentence can be rotated, inverted examined for proper spelling , grammar and voice tone because we dont have what it takes to talk real topics instead!!!

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        tiredofwhiners1 year, 6 months ago

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        "we have the amazing ever lasting devotion to finding as many topics as possible that can polarize and irritate each other."

        You have succeeded in doing just that.

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          sotiris-k1 year, 6 months ago

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          How do irritate and polarize here? Cant you feel my pain that i see something valuable and important for mankind, a system that stood for science, technology, innovation , freedom , enthusiasm , optimism a great number of good qualities is being wasted in the hands of inept people that cannot ever rise above partisan positions? It happens wordwide not only in the US but it is pronounced here only because it inflicts the maximum loss given the wasted opportunities. We need leaders that will unite us behind objectives that uplift our lives, make us more responsible, proud and heroic at the same time. We need a moon project. Call it today an energy project , an environment project , an education-science project. We need to invest in our ultimate utility, human beings. How is the average citizen improved by endless political debates about abortion, gay marriage, taxes for the superrich, stem cells , creationism in biology texts or permanent fears about mythological terrorism giants?

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          Blackacereturn1 year, 6 months ago

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          WELL SAID SOTIRIS - I feel the 2 negs you got is more out of reflex action and shame than disagreement! What I worry about and wonder if the citizens can do anything about it is the highest court in the land. What if we are before them again in this election? It's easy to do just contest any close states and it could go all the way to them. The right under bush has set the courts up to in essence steal every election for a very long time!

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            sotiris-k1 year, 6 months ago

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            I trust that a leader with vision and intellect can position himself(or herself - well not this time lol soon i hope) in such a way that courts cannot bypass the truth. I hold both Gore and Kerry partially responsible for not forcing with their own conduct the problems in such a way as to make the courts take a more balanced position . If Gore had insisted relentlessly for a recount in the entire state of Florida and urged the courts to enforce exactly that without spending too much time in limited cases where the delays were easier to introduce he would have had a proper result. It is very easy to make the courts look inept in the eyes of the broad population if you have the intellect to point to the right direction. Nobody can resist to a leader that rises above his personal gain and demands something extremelly proper to be done. Problems in Florida werent only for democrats but also for republicans. All counties needed adjustments. Thats where he lost valuable time early.

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