Food Rationing Happening in the United States »
Posted By Neophile 1 year, 6 months ago in StyleMajor retailers in New York, in areas of New England, and on the West Coast are limiting purchases of flour, rice, and cooking oil as demand outstrips supply.
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texangelwings1 year, 6 months ago
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Aidenag1 year, 6 months ago
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That really isn't as large of an issue as people are making it out to be. The real issue is the population boom we are going through. Sure biofuels are contributing to it to a certain extent, but what it all comes down to, is that we are reaching a population level where it is becoming hard to feed everyone. Especially with so many 3rd world nations becoming rich lately, and thus eating more food.
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normallysilent1 year, 6 months ago
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It would help if everyone did like they were asked to do back during WW2. Plant those gardens. Provide for yourself a little. Help take the load off the system. The food tastes better and you know what is on it. I have been giving food away to friends and family because I can see I have way more than needed to last until this years crop is ready.
Its nice going to the cellar instead of the store.
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not2needy1 year, 6 months ago
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normallysilent, I wish i could give you a thousand positive comment ratings for that comment. My family always raised their own gardens, fresh everything, even down to the fruit, and my Dad used to grind corn for cornmeal too. Great food.
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CRYMTYPHON1 year, 6 months ago
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What percentage of people in the area of the story, have a single square space of greenery to grow anything?
How many have a cellar ?
The U.S. ( and the rest of the world ) is a more urban population that it was in WW2.
When you live in an apartment on the 10th floor of a city building, you can only shop cheaper.
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BB641 year, 6 months ago
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You're totally missing the point. The reason so much food isn't being produced is for the bio-fuel mandates. As to small gardens, there's nothing wrong with that but you can't expect that to solve the world hunger problem created by the tree hugging ethanol crowd.
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Dionys1 year, 6 months ago
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"Its nice going to the cellar instead of the store."
Absolutely. There's something to be said for planting a victory garden. It's especially gratifying to rip up all that useless grass from friends' yards when you help them to plant a garden. It's probably one of the easiest and most rewarding things you can do to help save the planet. On top of that the food tastes 10x better. Tomatos actually taste like tomatos.
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walden31 year, 6 months ago
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normallysilent-
i thought you'd like these lyrics-
"Well, let the wild winter wind bellow and blow.
I'm as warm as a July tomato.
There's peaches on the shelf, potatoes in the bin.
Supper's ready, everybody come on in.
Taste a little of the summer.
Grandma put it all in jars.
Well, there's a root cellar, fruit cellar, down below.
Watch your head now, and down we go.
Oh, she got magic in her, you know what I mean.
She puts the sun and rain in with her beans.
What with the snow and the economy and everything,
I think I'll just stay down here and eat until spring.
She cans the pickles, sweet and dill,
And the songs of the whip-or-will,
And the morning dew and the evening moon,
I really gotta go down and see her soon.
'Cause the canned goods that I buy at the store
Ain't got the summer in 'em anymore.
You bet, Grandma, as sure as you're born,
I'll take some more potatoes and a thunderstorm."
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saintetienne1 year, 6 months ago
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"It would help if everyone did like they were asked to do back during WW2. Plant those gardens. Provide for yourself a little. Help take the load off the system."
normallysilent, what you speak of is HERESY! Heresy, I say! Heresy, slander and lies!! NO ONE must provide for themselves!! There is a government to do that for us! NO ONE must assume ANY personal responsibility - - it is fully up to our government to provide for us, to tell us what to do, to solve every problem that comes down the pike!! I know this, because Barack Obama TOLD me so!! He says we must rely on HOPE! HOPE and his able leadership is all we need to solve all the world's problems!! We citizens needn't lift a finger - Barack will take care of EVERYTHING for us!! He will broker world peace, solve the oil crisis, provide jobs for everyone, reduce the world population, and free donuts for everyone on Fridays!! I tell you, HE is the ANSWER. All we have to do is vote, and wait....
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bill29361 year, 6 months ago
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Well in Middle America (Texas), went to the store yesterday and found bags and bags of rice. 50# bags no limit ~$20 a bag, no rationing. Beans in bags up to 50# no rationing. I almost think that the stores with 'storages' are those that choose to have 'shortages', then blame the economy and run up the price.
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Gransater1 year, 6 months ago
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Whether or not there is a shortage, it sure is an indication that people feel insecure about the economy, even here in the US.
Blaming it on icreased population elsewhere is horse puckey. It would be more accurate to blame it on shift to growing crops for biofuels. The world population haven't suddenly increased to a degree to cause these shortages. The increase is high, but steady, and have been for decades. What has changed drastically is the acreage devoted to growing crops for biofuels. It pays farmers a lot more than growing food crops. This is about to change. The question is how many of these poor people are going to be able to afford the high cost of feeding themselves. Geopolitically we have some challenging times ahead of us.
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BB641 year, 6 months ago
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I don't think the economy is the problem, it's the biofuels. The USA has been the food basket for much of the 3rd world. Now that we're not seeing the excesses purchased by the Feds for food banks and the like, you're going to see more riots in the poor countries.
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normallysilent1 year, 6 months ago
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Gransater,
Weren't most of the crops being used for fuels primarily used for livestock feed in the past? I don't think food for direct human consumption was significantly affected. We do need that feed for the livestock though. I think the food crops would still pay better but I could be wrong.
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BB641 year, 6 months ago
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That's partially true. Much of the corn used for ethanol is used for cattle feed, however, farmers can make more money selling their corn to the ethanol plants rather than food crops. So rather than planting more human food, they're growing fuel corn. The fuel crop has many more subsidies also connected to it.
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quackpot1 year, 6 months ago
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walden31 year, 6 months ago
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Well the Republicans almost have us where they want us, but we're not quite desperate enough yet. There'll be two Americas. The one where we all scramble for scraps and crumbs and the other of gated communities with ostentatious displays of wealth.
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nostalgia1 year, 6 months ago
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BB641 year, 6 months ago
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Walden, the ethanol lobby has it's real roots with the DNC and the Sierra groups. Because they can make money making ethanol you now have GOP members interested. That plus even your lowly farmers are making money growing fuel corns.
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normallysilent1 year, 6 months ago
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Sorry Walden, I do like the lyrics you put above however I won't be voting for either of the Dem choices offered. I also do not live in any gated community or ever intend to. I have actually been looking at property further out. I would move now but I think I would have more than a little trouble selling right now. I like a lot of nothing around me.
I also disagree with this being a Rep and Dem type of problem. I don't see any difference whatsoever in the driving forces behind any of them. They are all out for one thing and there isn't one of them with a real understanding of the problems the rest of us are facing. They don't listen to the people and haven't for a long time.
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saintetienne1 year, 6 months ago
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Look chumps, it's high time the people in this country go on a diet anyway. Have you SEEN the obesity figures and the diabetes statistics? It wouldn't hurt for people to cut back on their food intake, and ship it to the third world so THEY have a chance to eat something. Push away from the table, people. It's not going to kill you. And besides, think of the reduced health costs. I'm telling you, this problem is easy to solve. GO ON A DIET.
This is a non-story. NEXT.
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nostalgia1 year, 6 months ago
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Saintetienne
It's not that simple
The obesity rates are highest in the middle and lower economic groups
When you have limited income the overprocessed, high calorie and high fat foods are cheaper to buy
As a result you aren't getting the nutition you really need and you "feel" hungry
Buying fresh fruit and vegetables along with quality cuts of meat and fish is very expensive
I know how much I am spending for just the 2 of us and I can't imagine how a family with kids and low income could afford it
Do a little test. Buy only fresh fruits and vegetables along with quality meats or fish. See how much you spend.
Then take a look at how much you could buy with that money if you bought lower quality
White bread is a good example. Compare the price of a loaf of white bread to a high quality multigrain loaf - not the overprocessed "wheat" bread (it isn't much better than white)
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joeblowe1 year, 6 months ago
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well, here's something I don't see mentioned: JIT supply. I've personally seen instances where IDIOTS think that Just In Time inventory control will work on a transcontinental - or worse, international - basis. It only takes a LITTLE problem - say, unexpected congestion at the docks, or a labor action (at EITHER end) or ... well, practically any little thing, and the WHOLE SYSTEM grinds to a halt. And at considerable expense. A temporary local rice shortage could be something as simple as that - a temporary snag in the supply line. Trust me. I've seen instances where an entire assembly line (automotive) was about to be shut down because a truck got stuck in a snow storm. The idiots run their operation THAT close to FAIL mode.
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nostalgia1 year, 6 months ago
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A friend of mine is from the Philippines. Apparently the Philippines is in the midst of a rice shortage.
Although my friend usually sends money, many of her family members are requesting food - they send what they call balikbayan boxes filled with food etc.
Now she is sending 50 lb sacks rice, canned salmon etc
She sent me a link to a story from Vancouver. The same thing is going on there in the Filipino community
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/busines...
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jamesjajames1 year, 6 months ago
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Why are people hungry, because they choose to be. A few years ago I did a little experiment just to see how hard it was to get a meal. I spent one month in the summer paid $0 for food and ate 3 meals a day. Typically http://mattressl.t35.com/ the Salvation Army handled one or two meals a day. There was another religious organization, that had a breakfast program for the homeless. I may have had to listen to a sermon or http://mattressq.t35.com/ wash a few dishes, but I ate and no begging or 'dumpster diving'. I got the idea from http://mattressw.t35.com/ another program they have in Texas http://mattresse.t35.com/ where kids (under 18) can show up at various locations and get breakfast and http://mattressr.t35.com/ lunch for free during the summer. There were those that complained about the program because they would not delivery to the kids houses.
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jaxguy1 year, 6 months ago
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Food insecurity is a huge problem in the United States. If you don't experience it, its may be hard to understand but it goes together with poverty. Poverty in the US has increased in the last few years and so has food insecurity. And btw, biofuels will cause the price of food to go up, and leave more people hungry. It's already happening in other countries.
Here is a good article about food insecurtiy from a major US health org ...
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=Articl...
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jaxguy1 year, 6 months ago
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Food insecurity is a huge problem in the United States. If you don't experience it, its hard to understand but it goes together with poverty. Poverty in the US has increased in the last few years and so has food insecurity. And btw, biofuels will cause the price of food to go up, and leave more people hungry. It's already happening in other countries.
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walden31 year, 6 months ago
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I know I sound nuts, but who cares. We're all strangers anyways.
Cleaning man, cleaning. Filth will be the enemy. Hospitals could be nuts, anti-biotics will be worth god knows what. Sanitation will be key. Clean surfaces, disinfect water, clean your laundry. Some lime might not be a bad idea either for that latrine if power were cut out on us. Keeping clean and not getting infections is paramount. I like to limit my dependence on others as much as possible.
If you prepare for the worst, then you're prepared for the best.
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simonsez1 year, 6 months ago
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A year ago, most of the names I see here were belly-aching about the price of gas and clamoring for bio-fuel. You were thrilled that the government demanded more ethanol added to the fuel. Now, it's everybody elses fault that there's a food shortage and higher food costs.
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Wolfie20071 year, 6 months ago
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simonsez, You are so right, but I was not silent when ethanol was approved for use and I said then as now, it is immoral to use food for fuel. I also want to remind everyone to say a prayer for the starving children of the world every time you start you hybrid.
I guess a rice shortage is good news for Arkansas rice farmers that is if their fields ever dry up enough to plow and plant. Last I heard it might be a month or more.
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xiaomian11031 year, 6 months ago
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