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    BB641 year, 7 months ago

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    I live in Wisconsin and own property. Currently most of the farm land is in the process of being converted into corn because that's where the big money is. Between the subsidies and other cash incentives it's a huge boom for the farmer. And all for ethanol. A product that reduces your fuel effiecency by about 10%, the same amount they blend with gasoline. Go figure. It doesn't burn cleaner. It takes 5 gallons of fossil fuel to produce 1 gallon of ethanol. It can't be shipped via pipeline so it must be trucked everywhere. Another knee jerk reaction by the left for a problem that really doesn't exist.

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      quackpot1 year, 7 months ago

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      WRONG WRONG WRONG

      The BIG AGRIBUSINESS folks with the huge congressional lobbies are the ones promoting the ethanol from corn deal.

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        nostalgia1 year, 7 months ago

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        "The BIG AGRIBUSINESS folks with the huge congressional lobbies"

        Buying BOTH Republicans and Democrats or the legislation wouldn't have passed!

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          BB641 year, 7 months ago

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          Crack up, I'm not a big farming interest. I have around 400 acres of farm land that was my grand parents place. The land was rented to neighbors for farming however this year, because of the huge subs you the kind taxpayers have provided, I've hired someone to cash crop my land. As to congress, Wisconsin used to be the dairy state until Herbie Kohl came to town as no body's senator but ours.... He sold us up the river in the East Coast Dairy Compact. You will continue to see traditional farming die and go towards grain production for fuel with people like him in office. I'm spending less that $25K for well over $250K pay back. Thank you tree hugging environmental freaks.

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            quackpot1 year, 7 months ago

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            Follow the money, BB64.

            The money to hire the large number of lobbyists that influence the Farm Bills is from agribusiness.

            At best, the environmentalists are able to influence the amount of pollution that agribusiness dumps into the rivers.

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              BB641 year, 7 months ago

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              Wrong. The biofuel groups are financed with big money from the Sierra Club and other groups like that. At least originally. There has been a huge push from this group starting in the late 70's, I remember them selling this when I was in jr. high.

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          walden31 year, 7 months ago

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          What problem really doesn't exist?

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            BB641 year, 7 months ago

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            Ethanol was sold as the solution to "global warming". This isn't the topic but because of the new air quality standards in Wisconsin, we have to use a 10% ethanol blend. We've proven that this doesn't help, in fact in simple green house gases, it causes more pollution and reduces fuel economy, so we use more gasoline. Add to that the increased use of fossil fuel for the tilling, harvesting and transporting, ethanol is a huge failure. In simple terms it takes over 5 gallons of fossil fuel to produce 1 gallon of ethanol.

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              awongscreen1 year, 7 months ago

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              True to the point. Ethanol is NOT the solution to global warming. At most it can only be considered as a temporary solution to reduce dependency for middle east oil.

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            IAmMine1 year, 7 months ago

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            "Another knee jerk reaction by the left for a problem that really doesn't exist. "

            Oh really, why is Bush pushing for it. Oh thats right, his family has already been heavily investing in it. Look at what Jeb is doing down in Florida....

            Its big agribusiness....

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              BB641 year, 7 months ago

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              Ethanol was the beat all end all for gasoline additives. The idea was from the 1970's and was thought to be a "great" solution to the energy crisis. The problem, the study was never properly evaluated. The idea was to convert all cars to "harmless" ethanol. Brazil was shown as an example. The problem, our cars not the cars of the 70's. Between the computers and sensors, ethanol is terrible all the way around.

              The largest groups to push for ethanol were your environmental groups. Big business does hold some responsibility here however, the lion share really is with groups like the Sierra Club.

              As to Bush, it's the politically correct solution. Even when the environmental lobby is proven to be incorrect, please note, I didn't say wrong, they never admit to it. Bush for some reason is drinking the Kool-Aid. As to Jeb, he's not the gov. so I really don't know nor do I care what he is doing anymore. I would like both the Bush and the Clinton families to go away.

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