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Aidenag1 year, 7 months ago
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Right now Cnn is showing Hillary with a 8pt lead, which is well below the margin she needed to claim any sort of a comeback. All this does for her, is delay her losing a bit longer. She needed 10pt's just to say she is a viable candidate, and 15-20pt's to say she still has a shot at becoming President. My guess, is that we are going to start seeing a lot more pundits, superdelegates, and democratic party members calling for her to throw in the towel now due to the fact she could win every state left with this same margin, and still lose to Obama...
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TimALoftis1 year, 7 months ago
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at 10:15 eastern her lead has expanded to 10 percentage points with nearly 60% fo the vote in
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SonOfTheMask1 year, 7 months ago
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Hi Tim! I guess the network news folks are getting faster feeds than the PA Dept of State site that truthi has below...it's still showing less than 50% returns counted and the margin narrowed.
Guess it ain't over til it's over? :)
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ybdogsct1 year, 7 months ago
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ALPHA:
"Ten points now!"
And that translates to Hillary Clinton picking up a whopping 6 more delegates than Obama, as if that's going to put a huge dent in Obama's lead. Even as it stands now, Hillary receives an estimated 52 PA delegates and Obama receives an estimated 46 delegates.
Big deal.
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Lurch1 year, 7 months ago
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AG just wants to see Hillary tear down Obama more, because he knows McCain doesn`t have a chance against Obama on his own.
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MacR1 year, 7 months ago
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You have been told at least a thousand times that AG is a female. But what do you care. As long as you can get your jab in. It is all fair right. Such hypocrites here.
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ybdogsct1 year, 7 months ago
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What does LURCH's comment have to do with hypocrisy?
And what does ALPHA's gender have to do with the gist of LURCH's comment?
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tanglang1 year, 7 months ago
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Read Lurch's comment again smart guy. Oh, and also, 10% equals a whopping 9 delegates. It was 66 to 57.
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ybdogsct1 year, 7 months ago
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TANG:
"Read Lurch's comment again smart guy."
I'll say it again. What does LURCH's comment have to do with "hypocrisy"?
TANG:
"Oh, and also, 10% equals a whopping 9 delegates. It was 66 to 57."
WRONG.
1) At the time I posted my reply (according to the time-stamp), CNN had projected a 6-delegate difference. That's why I prefaced my comment with the words "Even as it stands now..."
2) The difference in delegates won is NOT finalized. The final delegate count won't be known for a while longer.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080423/ap_on_el_pr...
"The final delegate count was delayed because many of Pennsylvania's counties are split into multiple congressional districts. Pennsylvania awards delegates according to the statewide vote as well as the vote in individual congressional districts."
It's time for you to get your facts straight.
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tanglang1 year, 7 months ago
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"1) At the time I posted my reply (according to the time-stamp), CNN had projected a 6-delegate difference"
Well that's Your bad for trusting CNN!
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ybdogsct1 year, 7 months ago
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It was a "projection," NOT the final delegate tally. The final delegate tally won't be known for days, which makes your figure WRONG.
I don't know why this is so difficult for you to comprehend. It is not a tricky concept. Perhaps you should look up the word "projection" in a dictionary. Obviously, English is not your forte.
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tanglang1 year, 7 months ago
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Perhaps you should not have used the smart ass phrase "Hillary Clinton picking up a whopping 6 more delegates than Obama" By your words it would seem as though you were implying that this would be the final tally now would'nt it?
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ybdogsct1 year, 7 months ago
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TANG:
"Perhaps you should not have used the smart ass phrase "Hillary Clinton picking up a whopping 6 more delegates than Obama" By your words it would seem as though you were implying that this would be the final tally now would'nt it?"
What part of my sentence that BEGINS with the words "Even as it stands now" do you not understand? Are these monosyllabic words too difficult for you to comprehend?
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Lib4Torture4Cons1 year, 7 months ago
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You have been told at least a thousand times that AG is a female.
I always thought AG was kind of soft and a bit on the gay side for a guy. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
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slate1 year, 7 months ago
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AG just wants to see Hillary tear down Obama more, because he knows McCain doesn`t have a chance against Obama on his own.
Do you have a problem with an American supporting any candidate they wish to support for any reason they fell like Lurch?
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stephen-johnson1 year, 7 months ago
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The Dems will force the superdelegates to vote before the convention. Too bad. I'd like to see a good, old-fashioned brokered convention, maybe even with Gore getting drafted.
And forget Hillary and Obama forming a Dream Ticket. Being on the same ticket is their worst nightmare.
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Blackacereturn1 year, 7 months ago
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This is not a for McCain AG the day after obama wins there will be a bump and McCain will fall behind by big numbers. Even he knows that, i am sure you were watching Roves on FOX tonight he even said that it's not a in anyway because the DEMS will get a bump after they pic a runner!
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Blackacereturn1 year, 7 months ago
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But Obama will be ahead in every way, which would leave her with I i could win the big states"
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aceofspades11 year, 7 months ago
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Too bad all this stuff about Obama didn't come out a few months ago when all the pundits were in love with him.
I've been saying all along - he's no different than a three card monte dealer - talks the good talk, lets some shill win & takes the crowd for all they got.
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Blackacereturn1 year, 7 months ago
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What stuff about Obama, has the stuff you talk about came out about a white male you would be laughing your ass off, there is nothing there and the fact that he did as well as he did in PA means that most people will don't agree with you!
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aceofspades11 year, 7 months ago
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Black - if he won in PA then I might concede Most people don't agree with me , but he didn't. & a far as a white male is concerned I would feel exactly the same - an opportunist with an unknown backround & unknown advisors & dubious crendentials - those fact know no color
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Lurch1 year, 7 months ago
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The problem isn`t that Obama is some mystery, Clinton and the Republican have already spent in the eight figures trying to investigate every aspect of his life. How many candidates have been attacked over an essay they wrote when they were five??
As an Obama supporter, I would be ashamed if Obama attacked Hillary or McCain for something they wrote when they were five. Or how about attacking some colleague who did something terrible when the candidate was EIGHT?
No, the problem is not any unknown about Obama, the Republican problem is everything known about McCain. There`s no way to rewrite that history and those votes and the last decade of flip-flops. Better get your best smears ready cons!
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mivan41 year, 7 months ago
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sorry about that positive it wasn't meant. Btw they did attack him on a old old issue when he was young in the service as a POW and was being tortured! it has to do with what he said to the ones that were torturing him!
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Blackacereturn1 year, 7 months ago
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I am incline to doubt that but at this point I have to take your word for it (white male). However, if Obama had a 33% it's not points either it's % lead and Hill Knocked it down to 10 would you be in here praising his win, from what I have seen I think not! All we would have heard of is how she cut his 33% lead by 23 points. 23 points, that my friend is BIG! And as the other poster said money well spent! No9w kick her ass in Indy and call it a day!
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Blackacereturn1 year, 7 months ago
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My (white man)reference in the above was to point at my previous comment not an accusation and or indictment of all white men!
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lum-chate1 year, 7 months ago
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The latest North Carolina RCP average has Obama up 15.5% if Clinton finishes behind by 3 to 5% I doubt you would consider it a Clinton win. Money well spent, get real!
Obama spending people like your hard earned contributions like a drunken sailor to no avail, has to irked you. And he's not finished making poor financial decisions like he did in Pennsylvania where he got wiped out!
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lum-chate1 year, 7 months ago
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On Feb 25 before the Ohio & Texas primaries she had a 9 pt lead in Pennsylvania. So he didn't cut into her lead at all by spending 11 mil. She did get a bump after Ohio & Texas up to 15 to 20% but bumps fade!
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jordan111 year, 7 months ago
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an opportunist with an unknown backround & unknown advisors & dubious credentials - those fact know no color>>>>
I just don't get remarks like that. What 'dubious' credentials are you talking about? He's excelled in life, & shown that he has the knowledge and abilities to be a fine president. What exactly do you think good credentials are?
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aceofspades11 year, 7 months ago
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What 'dubious' credentials are you talking about?
I'm not referring to his Ivy League education or his professional credentials. but rather what has he done-? not a very impressive legislative record, oh yeah he didn't vote to send troops to Iraq, but I may be mistaken but I believe he was absent during crucial voting. & who are his advisors?
Eloquent speeches do not a president make.
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Blackacereturn1 year, 7 months ago
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He wasn't absent during crucial voting he wasn't in the congress when they voted on the war, and if you go to the library of congress you will see that he has voted over 5000 times since being in office, and has had a handful of very important bills passed, one of which was (a better healthcare for our injured veterans and making sure that their medical facilities were in better shape than the way it was when he entered office), he did this with a Republican congress and with the help of that congress. However, he is on record as saying he was against the war before we went to war. As for his record try looking further than the tip of your nose, he has been a public servant for over 20 years, longer than bush. Speaking of Bush what was he GOV of one the most corrupt state ran government in the nation before we elected him.
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Blackacereturn1 year, 7 months ago
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To discount his education is convenient on your part. If he went to a state college that would be all you want to talk about (not that state colleges are bad schools).
That aside if you are true about voting for the best person for this job listen to the man, take the time out and do some research instead of flying by the seat of your pants If that is not enough qualification then I don't know what is. Are you saying he would have to run the country beâ;¦if you weren't flying by the seat of your pants you would have known that this man has been in public service one elected or appointed position for 20 years. How much more experience do you need. If you are worried about a black man being able to run the country then let me educate you American Express, Merrill Lynch, Time Warner-AOL, you may not know this, these are very big American institutions that has been ran by black men for over the last 10 to 20 years.
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Blackacereturn1 year, 7 months ago
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Blacks are only incapable in the minds of those who wouldn't give them the chance to be so. There is a brain in this man's head that is way better than both of his opponents and most previous presidents including and far and away better than the current president. fore he can be qualified to run the country., Because that would be a little tricky but that is your intent isn't it Ace?
THIS IS THE TRUTH ABOUT Obama You can find it too just look for the info it's on the WEB
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jordan111 year, 7 months ago
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If I may add to your excellent reply: Obama has been called an 'elitist', yet despite being able to work in any law firm he chose (which is a distinction that is given Presidents of the Harvard Law Review), he chose to work for the civil rights of people, rolled up his sleeves, and made a difference. He has a better working knowledge of the Constitution than most in WA, & was a Constitutional scholar at the U. of Chicago for a decade. He majored in Political Science, with his specialty in Foreign Affairs at Colombia University. And he has shown an exceptional ability at negotiating, something we desperately need going forward in our Foreign Affairs which are now in shambles.
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Lurch1 year, 7 months ago
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There is nothing there. That`s why we keep laughing, especially when compared to the flip-flopping McLaws-for-Lays.
It`s like having the two best teams compete for the NFC Championship, and the Super Bowl is basically just a cake walk for whoever wins this game.
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NoWayMan1 year, 7 months ago
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exactly. we have two tough opponents, duking it out. the dems have yet to trun their sights on McCain, but when they do we'll be hearing planty about McCain breaking his own FEC laws, his connection to Abramoff, his lack of knowledge about the economy, his massive flip flops, etc.
as far as the dem fight goes, good or bad, right or wrong, hillary's not just going to lay down and give up. she's a clinton. that's why the clintons are 7-0 vs. the GOP. they're tough. last night she barely won by enough to keep her alive.
all the obama fans knew this fight wasn't going to end here. cause it ain't like he's running against some sap like fred thompson.
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slate1 year, 7 months ago
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A win is A Win (one vote,,,, why does she have to win by 10% or as they have been saying for weeks, 'it's all over".
It will be over when Bill says 'honey we fought a good fight but it's over" and not a second sooner, no matter how badly the Obamaites want her to quit. It still goes back to the lack of ability for Obama to give the knock out punch.
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