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Posted By ybdogsct 1 year, 7 months ago in HumorJohn Hagee, whose endorsement McCain accepted, said "New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God." Hagee's God doesn't "Damn America" like Jeremiah Wright's; Hagee's God just destroys the parts of America he doesn't like. You're not wearing a flag pin, McCain. How are you going to answer that question?
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ybdogsct1 year, 7 months ago
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Jon Stewart addresses inconsistencies in the media's treatment of McCain:
1) John Hagee, whose endorsement McCain accepted, believed God sent Hurricane Katrina to destroy New Orleans for an excessive level of sin. Hagee's God doesn't "Damn America" like Jeremiah Wright's; Hagee's God just destroys the parts of America he doesn't like.
2) An examination of McCain's interviews shows that, like Obama, McCain doesn't wear a flag pin on his lapel either.
3) McCain visited a predominantly black neighborhood in New Orleans to reach out to minority voters who are traditionally ignored, only to draw an audience that was almost entirely white.
LOL
Some like to boast how well McCain is running in head-to-head polls against Clinton and Obama. What they fail to realize, however, is that--the Democrats are currently divided, McCain has gotten a free pass--this is as good as it gets for McCain. Once the Democrats have their candidate settled, McCain will face a much tougher campaign.
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DropkickaLib1 year, 7 months ago
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ybdogsct1 year, 7 months ago
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You mean, YOU will always be divided.
http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/01/13/...
DROP: "Don't be surprised when McRINO, who is not supported by the vast majority of Republicans, wins in MI."
http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/01/13/...
DROP: "McCain is the Democrats' Republican and given that Dems can vote in a number of Republican primaries, maybe he can get a few states before he loses at the Convention."
http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/01/21/...
DROP: "I'll be glad to see a primary where Republicans actually choose their own candidate. After FL, bye, bye McRINO! Rudy too, I imagine."
Within a few months, you've gone from calling McCain "MCRINO" to becoming his biggest fan. I guess you're divided against yourself.
LOL.
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Lib4Torture4Cons1 year, 7 months ago
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ybdogsct
Thanks for so graciously using Dropkickalib's public postings to show beyond any reasonable doubt that he is a hypocrite and maintains his integrity at the same level as GOT WMD, WE DO NOT TORTURE George W. Bush.
What Drop posts is with out a doubt dogsct.
Hardy, har, har har!
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hdthehn1 year, 7 months ago
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Drop-
"with out" is two words "without" is one word. You have no relationship to reality.
BTW droppy I found your picture in the dictionary under the word:
self-right·eous
ADJECTIVE: 1. Piously sure of one's own righteousness; moralistic. 2. Exhibiting pious self-assurance: self-righteous remarks.
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Lurch1 year, 7 months ago
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DropKickaLib has got to be a Democrat hack.
There`s no way anybody could be that much arrogantly, enthusiastically, and stubbornly gullible. He has got to be a Dem plant hired to make the Republicans look worse than they already are.
I just cannot fathom this guy being really as [blank] as he portrays on these boards.
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DropkickaLib1 year, 7 months ago
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You didn't uncover anything new here. I never concealed the fact that McCain wasn't my candidate. I'm in the unenviable position of having to choose between the overtly socialist policies of the Dem candidate and the insidiously socialistic policies of many Republicans. I'm not too enthusiastic about McCain, but the alterantive is a complete Marxist. I'll take the 15% Lib. Thanks for researching my posts though. I'm sure you learned more than you would on Jon Sewer's show.
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Lurch1 year, 7 months ago
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the problem isn`t that you don`t take the responsibility to do your own homework before posting your drivel online DKL, the problem is that after others do your homework for you, you still arrogantly insist on posting ignorant, hypocritical, and just plain wrong messages online.
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beachboy60001 year, 7 months ago
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There is HUGE difference between Hagee and Wright. McCain is not a friend of Hagee, he did not seak Hagee out for spiritual counseling, he did not marry McCain to his wife, he did not baptize his children. Obama said Wright was as ingrained with him as his own Grandmother and his skin color.
To link the two is stupid.
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ybdogsct1 year, 7 months ago
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So somehow Obama is responsible for Wright's words, yet McCain is not responsible for racist slurs he uttered himself (as I posted above)?
Somehow Obama is responsible for a pastor's words, yet McCain is not responsible for bigoted remarks uttered by Christian pastors whose endorsements he accepts?
Somehow Obama is responsible for a pastor's words, yet McCain is not responsible for the words of his campaign manager Richard Quinn who called Nelson Mandela a terrorist, claimed Martin Luther King was a man "whose role in history was to lead his people into a perpetual dependence on the welfare state, a terrible bondage of body and soul," and advocated the election of the "maverick" KKK leader David Duke? Isn't it interesting that Richard Quinn described David Duke as a "maverick," in the same way he has packaged McCain to be a "maverick" senator?
Spare me your partisan double standard and false outrage.
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DropkickaLib1 year, 7 months ago
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ybdogsct1 year, 7 months ago
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DROP:
"Right, and if "rural America" happens to be 85-90% White, just a coincidence."
Exactly. You can't produce a quote of Obama saying the words "pesky white rednecks" because NO SUCH QUOTE EXISTS. Meanwhile, McCain has been DIRECTLY QUOTED uttering racist slurs.
Your double standards would be laughable if they weren't so outrageously racist.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 7 months ago
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Hey drop- 2 of the 3 last pastors at my church are staunch republicans - I disagree entirely and completely with what they say on politics, but they did their job ok, and they did some good work in the community, I bit my tongue when they talked about anything political. (partisan politics has NO business in a church- I believe any church mixing itself in politics should lose tax exempt status immediately.)However I did not walk out one of them baptized my kids. Gee I had no idea the guy spoke for me or that I should have walked out.
Live and learn eh?
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DropkickaLib1 year, 7 months ago
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Yeah, you should attend a church where the sermons contain edyifying content. If your pastors were Republicans, I'm sure that was the case. Churches will take positions on political issues that have moral implications. It's the endorsement of candidates that is illegal.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 7 months ago
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Shouldn't I have walked out though? Cause you say these guys speak for everyone in their faith. Are you prepared to say Catholics are all pedophiles too? Shouldn't anyone opposed to pedophilia have denounced their faith and stopped attending their church because of the actual crimes committed, aided and abetted, then covered up by that church's U.S. leaders? I mean by your logic the minister speaks for all the people whether they are present to hear them or not. How about acts? They speak louder than words. Certainly the priests bosses- bishops etc. who protected and nurtured the pedophiles providing them with fertile new victims at every juncture speak even more for everyone in their churches than the mere priests. (sarcasm off)
You know your claim is disingenuous as well as I.
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DropkickaLib1 year, 7 months ago
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I'm talking about one pastor being held responsible as an individual. If you were a Catholic attending a church where you had reason to believe that the priest was a pedophile, by all means attend another parish. You can always attend another church in your denomination if you diapprove of the pastor's message.
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Goppy1 year, 7 months ago
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Just as it is stupid to link a highly selective sound byte to the life work of a veteran, minister, and observer of political policy.
Just as it is stoopid to downplay the motives of a candidate such as John McCain for his ACTIVE, EARNEST appeal to John Hagee, knowing full well his beliefe that Catholics are W hores ... every last one of 45 Million Americans.
See? Stupid is as stupid does.
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Lurch1 year, 7 months ago
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what`s that noise?
Oh that`s the sound of a Republican trying to move the goal posts.
lmao.
McCain sought out Hagee`s support for a year, chased after it even after he called the Pope the great ******.
Obama`s denouncement and distancing from Wright is not even in the same neighborhood as McCains racist comments and chasing after bigots for support.
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Isoparm1 year, 7 months ago
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This whole political dynamic has all become quite sickening.
These unrelenting attacks and hypocrisy continue, because it works. It isn't only the Republicans who have an aspect of their constituencies who are swayed by these stupid attacks. These distractions just provide an excuse for bigotries that may lay just under the surface, to manifests themselves.
I hope your right, and the Dem. party CAN come together, but the longer this goes on, the greater a split within the Dem. party, resulting in a Dem. candidate so damaged, as to allow McCain a good chance to win.
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ybdogsct1 year, 7 months ago
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Some more Jon Stewart vs. John McCain can be seen here:
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?v...
McCain Flip Flops on Jerry Falwell and GW Bush
McCain once called Jerry Falwell an "Agent of Intolerance." But then, he flip flopped by agreeing to give the Commencement Address at Falwell's Liberty University.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?v...
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?v...
McCain Flip Flops on Cheney and the Issue of Torture
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?v...
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?v...
Republicans Use Push-Polling in South Carolina to Slander John McCain
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?v...
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DropkickaLib1 year, 7 months ago
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Goppy1 year, 7 months ago
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You have to forgive Droppy for not knowin that ybdoggy.
If ANYBODY ever says somethin bad bout our heero Goerge W. Bush ... that AUTOMATICALLY disqualifies all future commentary as bein partisan and anti-American ... even when the DO run down Democrats ... which I have actually see with my very own eyes.
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Goppy1 year, 7 months ago
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Thank you for showin the world the essence of your character.
There aint nobody that I appreciate on Popieller moren you Droppy.
YOu make the case for the moral vacancy, shoobie shoobie craaazieness, expedient exaggeration, reckless jingoism, and anti-American values necessary to embrace and defend Neo-Conservatism.
Without you and those liek you, there would be no reason for me to participate in these discussions.
So, Thanks!
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DropkickaLib1 year, 7 months ago
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Wrong as usual. I'm too bright and read too much for myself to bother watching Jon Sewer. If this is your prime source of information on current events and politics, you should stop being so smug, assuming an air of intellectual superiority. That would, however, explain where you got it.
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Goppy1 year, 7 months ago
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Hmm. Oh, I GET IT!!
You refuse to accept that Jon Stewart has skewered Liburals ... in spite of the fact that this is patently false and ignorant because he dint devote TWO WEEKS exposin a Libural.
Thats how MAINSTREAM MEDIA does it. Liek they been runnin stories bout the Obama Wright thing for weeks now.
And Jon Stewart dont FREAK OUT on Liburals liek Rush Limbaugh.
I see where youre comin from.
Unless its a DEVOTED, LONG STANDING DIATRIBE over the course of WEEKS, it dont count.
Now I see where youre comin from.
Didja ever consider that you and your tactics are weakin our nation through your extremist hatred and blurrin the lines of rational discourse?
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ybdogsct1 year, 7 months ago
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DROP:
"If this is your prime source of information on current events and politics, you should stop being so smug, assuming an air of intellectual superiority."
LOL.
This is NOT Propeller's News Channel. This is NOT Propeller's Politics Channel either. This is Propeller's HUMOR Channel.
Clearly, reading comprehension is not your forte. Someone must have neglected to teach you this skill at your Safety School while earning your worthless journalism degree.
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Goppy1 year, 7 months ago
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MAN ALIVE!
Your intense hatred is REALLY risin to the top on this thread, Droppy!!
Insults galore!!
Heres a hint. Do you realize how frustrated and bitter you sound? Whenever I hear someone whos specialty is insults, claim they are laughin at others ... its ALWAYS an admission of pain at havin been laughed at by others.
Dont worry bout it my friend. Even though you have a perverted view of America and would harm it with your hatred, I believe you are among friends.
I sincerely believe noone here wishes you the harm you wish on them.
Most poeple just dont walk around with that level of hatred.
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ybdogsct1 year, 7 months ago
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LOL. I proffer document-supported evidence of McCain's racism and your hypocritical flipfloppery, and this is the best response you can muster?
I'd say from the lack of critical thought you've displayed in this thread thus far, you are VASTLY overpaid...and under-educated.
LOL.
Pathetic.
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jaspersneed1 year, 7 months ago
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"Wrong as usual. I'm too bright and read too much for myself to...."
Aaahh... OkaYYY...., Okay, I've stopped laughing now. And cleaned up the coffee I sprayed through my nose onto the keyboard. Damn that was funny! Don't do that again mofo, or YOU'RE buying the next keyboard.
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wtagg1 year, 7 months ago
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I guess I do not understand the constant name-calling. How does it support or enhance your position or argument? Is it morally the correct thing to do? Disagreeing is one thing and is your right and should be respected. Name calling isn't and appears to be accepted in your belief system.
Have you considered leading by example? It really isn't that hard.
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Goppy1 year, 7 months ago
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MAN ALIVE ybdoggy!
Those are some AMAZING links!!!
But I got all lost on the VERY FIRST ONE!!
I was listenin to John McCain ... but I simply could NOT understand ANYTHING he was sayin!!
WHY, YOU MIGHT ASK?!!
Simple all you lefties...
HE WASNT WEARIN A FLAG PIN!!
We Conservatives ONLY listen to poeple who wear flag pins.
And JOHN MCCAIN wasnt wearin a FLAG PIN.
Dont know why!
The only think I can think of to explain it is that he aint really an American.
Hmmm. Maybe he should wear a PANAMANIAN FLAG PIN.
FLAG PINS ... Its how we Conservatives judge poeples politics.
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Mdiar1 year, 7 months ago
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That was good. Should check this out to, I found it hilarious:
http://www.comedycentral.com/colbertreport/vide...
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Natureboy1 year, 7 months ago
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Hagee was no doubt referring to the sin of Ham-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_Ham
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 7 months ago
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LMFAO!! I know, Gawd destroyed New Orleans caus' dey wuz uh sinners!!! (except he destroyed around a thousand churches, but left Bourbon Street untouched). My guess is Gawd likes a bit of reverie but hates people who claim to speak for him!
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bubba21 year, 7 months ago
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I am repeating myself, but I just can't help it ...
McCain is a flip-flopper and a hypocrite.
He will say and do ANYTHING to be President. He has made his deal with the Republicans - and apparently with the devil - to sell himself to those who can 'assist' him in reaching his goal of "President McCain".
Actually, I just can't see how being President of the United States can be so desirable that people will compromise themselves, throw out their integrity, and lie to get there.
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MajJohn1 year, 7 months ago
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Agreed Bubba, but being a flip flopper can be interpreted as modifying your position as one gains knowledge and a new prospective, the argument used by Democrats when they were attacked in the past. Now why one would lie and throw integrity to the wind, who knows? Maybe we should ask Hillary, a proven liar.
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jaspersneed1 year, 7 months ago
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"....but being a flip flopper can be interpreted as modifying your position as one gains knowledge and a new prospective,...."
Yeah, that's the ticket.... gained knowlege and new perspectives... yeah, that's what it is, that's right.... that's the ticket...
Yeah....
GAINED KNOWLEDGE: "So... WHERE the hell am I in the polls?"
NEW PERSPECTIVE: "Who do I have to lie to next and what about?"
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Tangent0011 year, 7 months ago
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One would certainly hope a politician maintained the capacity to change their mind rather than being locked to dogma. It's not really that McCain changed his positions, for me, it's what he changed his positions TO. He used to be anti-torture, but not any more. He used to be against tax cuts for the wealthy, but not any more.
I worry as well about McCain's cozy relationship with lobbyists and his apparent lack of concern for veterans.
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bubba21 year, 7 months ago
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Let's see ... when Kerry supposedly "gained knowledge and a new perspective", he was slammed by the right-wingers for being a flip-flopper.
SO, when the situation is reversed and it is a Republican, its not "flip-flopping" anymore?
Baloney ....
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 7 months ago
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Actually MajJohn has a point it is a sign of intelligence to reconsider and correct ones course based on newly aquired knowledge, however not all changes of position are for that reason. How can Senator McCain claim that he told the North Vietnamese whatever they wanted to hear because they tortured him - so torture was not only evil but produced no valid results. Yet after a single meeting with Bush he would reverse this position. It was now useful information victims provided and not evil to torture ( Caus Gonzo said so!). Now that my friends is some reversal! Claiming your a baptist to a baptist audience, a catholic to catholic audience, and an episcopalian the rest of the time is hard to attribute to any sincere motive. Claiming to be for Veterans and voting against their interests is yet another area the man's agenda is hard to figure. It's not flip floping, it's pandering and falsehoods.
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Lurch1 year, 7 months ago
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Look, Cindy McCain is already trying to make a fortune off his/her new found stardom in right-wing circles. Look at that recipe book she plagiarized first chance she got. She blamed the plagiarism on `researchers`, which means she either didn`t write the book at all and just paid a few unemployed writers to write it under her name (unethical opportunism anyway), or she plagiarized expecting her researchers to whitewash her stealing of recipes. Either way, she has shown her true colors.
I mean it is not even a `my story` thing like Barak, Clinton, Laura and many others have written.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 7 months ago
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At one time the man displayed some integrity, and his party chastised him for it. The Bush campaign of 2000 used every filthy trick in the book against him. I think Cheneybush finally broke the man somehow. They say every man has his price, for some, that price is cheap. But he has made some kind of Faustian deal that is for certain. He has reversed himself on every issue, there are no issues he isn't on both sides of. Maybe Cheney has one of his family tied up in his basement.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 7 months ago
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How did he become the nominee? Well you had Rudy who all the real neocons backed and advised, but his own family apparently didn't even vote for him, I'm not even sure he voted for himself. No traction for Rudy. You had the alleged "savior" of the party Fred Thompson, Fred fell asleep and no one cared or noticed. You had your Mitt Romney who appeared to me to be wearing a mask of some kind that was something I'd seen in a Devo video. He got some traction but not enough. You had your Sam Brownback who ran as an anti-evolutionist who no one noticed outside of Kansas. Then you had your Duncan Hunter who got some votes from republicans for being strongly against womens rights but his stance against illegal immigration, and opposition to free trade agreements like North American Free Trade Agreement and the World Trade Organization made the republicans reject him early on.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 7 months ago
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Then of course you had your Baptist minister Mike Huckabee who appeared affable enough but wanted a theocracy and a 30 or 40% national sales tax instead of a 28% income tax. As much as a certain wing of the republican party wants a nice theocracy like they got over in Iran, there were enough who realized that it wasn't going to sell on mainstreet USA, (or the Supreme Court). In the end McCain was the only one left.
And since they know there is no chance of winning after the Bush record even if the democrats run a hairball coughed up by an alley cat, they didn't care. And that is how McSame got the nomination!
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wtagg1 year, 7 months ago
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This demonstrates that the base of the republican party is not true conservatism.
I am not sure that I would call he stance anti-war, but more common sense war. I believe part of his stance was that we did not complete the tasks that the admin promised us that we would complete, namely find and destroy al quada in Afghanistan. The past week's event in that country may be a foreboding of what is to come.
At times, I have to wonder if that wasn't part of the plan all along. If you keep the adversary alive, you can keep the battle cry and the rationale for some of the past's actions alive.
$500,000,000,000 could have gone a long way in providing technology to remove us from our foreign energy reliance/dependence. That should be our goal.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 7 months ago
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I agree. The opportunity arose to take out not only Osama, but many of his would be replacements in Afghanistan. The military was told to stand down. Why? For whatever reason the civilian leadership had no intention of actually doing what they claimed they went there to do. Whatever explanation you can think of for this behavior, it's never a good one.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 7 months ago
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Obama overwhelmingly has received more financial support from serving military personnel than any other candidate though.
http://www.capitaleye.org/inside.asp?ID=300
Obama got the most, Ron Paul the second most.
McCain and Hillary for all their claims of representing the military have the least support by far.
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nikkibabe1 year, 7 months ago
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Yesterday McCain said that Obama is insensitive to poor people. It is scary that this is coming from a hypocrite who flies his wife's private jet, wants to make permanent massive tax cuts to people like Warren Buffet, Bill Gates and the super rich.
Mr. McCain, while you and Mr. Keating were bilking thousands of small depositors of their life savings, Barack Obama was helping poor people on the streets of Chicago.
Now stop your lies. Have you ever gone shopping for groceries or pulled in to a gas station to fill up your corporate jet!!!!!!!!!!!
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DropkickaLib1 year, 7 months ago
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wtagg1 year, 7 months ago
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Can you provide any empirical evidence that supports the contention that a christian makes a better chief presiding officer for this country?
There is ample evidence that christians are vulnerable to all of the vices, short-comings, and bad-decision making as all humans. Realistically, it is not a worthy benchmark when deciding if someone can perform in the white house. Religious and spiritual fervor, as nice as that can be, has nothing to do with administrative skills, following the wishes of those you represent, and common sense.
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Lurch1 year, 7 months ago
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Thanks for bringing up Kerry, whom you cons used to call a gold-digger.
Nobody is a bigger gold-digger than McCain though, as you already know very well.
Nobody has the judgement issues of McCain who not only married for the money, but dumped his wife and mother of three kids so he wouldn`t have to actually work ever again. When he isn`t living off the taxpayer, he is living off his wife`s family $.
Hence his elitist attacks on universal healthcare, military funding for VA, new GI Bill, etc. He doesn`t need those, so why should anybody else.
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Lurch1 year, 7 months ago
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When`s McCain going to release his wife`s tax returns?
The Obamas did.
Clintons did.
What are the McCains so afraid to share with the public?
Why do the majority of their tax-deductible charitable contributions go to the schools their children attend? Sounds fishy, like perhaps illegal.
Not that this would be McCain`s first of last transgression of the law in regards to finances. Keating and Public-Financing laws for starters.
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Lurch1 year, 7 months ago
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Not sure what rock you`ve been under the last few weeks, but the Clintons released their income statements weeks ago.
Old news dkl, old news.
Now, yer idol McCain on the other hand, what is he and his wife trying to hide besides nefarious income and illegal and/or unethical tax dodging?
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wtagg1 year, 7 months ago
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Something to consider is that the networks and mainstream news has a bit of a conflict in interest with the candidates that a small network like CC doesn't have. Come election season, the networks and mainstream news live off of those advertising dollars. You could probably consider it their retail Xmas season.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 7 months ago
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http://www.capitaleye.org/inside.asp?ID=300
You see according to the pew research poll. The audience of the Daily Show and the Colbert Report tended to know more about current events than any other news source...ironic since they only make fun of the news. Please note that FOX viewers were DEAD LAST in knowledge of current events.
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Poulenc1 year, 7 months ago
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Alas, in a bake-off of provocateurs--Hagee vs. Wright--many will instantly see the latter as more deeply dangerous than the former, if they see the former as dangerous at all.
That's because of their racism and authoritarianism, which instantly bridles at any (perceived) attack on America, however "local," as if the denunciations of one man equalled sedition.
Putting aside the fringe who AGREE with Hagee, he's still "home team," in a great tradition of American demagogues whose appeal to mass bias can get him a free or freer pass.
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Lurch1 year, 7 months ago
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I`m not sure I understand your point.
I believe there are about 45 million Catholics in America and many times that outside of America. How can McCain sucking up to Hagee appear any other than the bigoted hate-mongering it is?
Also, Wright spent six years in the military. He is a proven patriot compared to Bush, Cheney, Rove, Rice, Rush, AC, Hannity and all the other haters.
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bubba21 year, 7 months ago
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Hagee has called the Catholic church 'The Great (hore),' an 'apostate church,' the 'anti-Christ,' and a 'false cult' system.
McCain spokesperson Jill Hazelbaker said, "Hagee endorsed John McCain. While we welcome his support, it shouldn't be seen as a wholesale endorsement of all of Mr. Hagee's views."
Now ... how is that 'different' or 'better' than any association between Obama and Wright?
The right-wingers are complaining that Obama's association with Wright automatically means that he agrees with and supports EVERYTHING that Wright says or does.
But no one will criticize McCain for the support he gets - that he asked for - from Hagee.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 7 months ago
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Although in terms of voters, those who would likely be swayed from voting for Obama because of statements someone other than he made would likely not be voting for him anyway. And it's better to get this aired out now and get it over and done with. Surely Britney Spears or some other bimbo will far* or burp and the media will lavish their attention on them for the next "news cycle".
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Poulenc1 year, 7 months ago
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Chef, in parody--and satire--there is always truth. That's what comedy does: our laughter is recognition of a norm that's been "transgressed."
You know, we walk upright, certain of our equilibrium, in every sense, and then slip on a banana peel...
But I DO take your point about the irony, let's call it, of finding truer truth in a show made to entertain than in one bent of "informing."
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