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tkyrchncs1 year, 7 months ago
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tchef, the "snippets" wherein he damns the nation to which he owes his life and freedom are a great sufficiency of what he has to say. He is to me the perfect example of a person who has spoken so objectionably that I cannot hear anything else he has to say, no matter how right, generous, forgiving, whatever. Foolishness is largely what comes out of the mouths of fools, and even though there may be occasional wisdom, I don't hear it.
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Leemck021 year, 7 months ago
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Tkychnos, I think your statement was analogous, a paraphrase to the definition of what a Bigot is. You really don't want to go down the path of "owe". There is a debt that is still pending; and you don't know enough history to connect the dots to freedom . . . did you say? You can get some of that gum for a dirty mouth when you start talking about owing. People like Reverend Wright has you a full measure on the subject of owing. You may not want to hear it; that someone with their head in the sand, and that is often the case when you are trying not to own up to your debt. You need to be more aware. Let that line stay on the movies until you can talk about Rosewood or Greenwood.
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tkyrchncs1 year, 7 months ago
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You accuse me of ignorance and bigotry, but you don't know me. This has happened to me before because I refuse to recognize anyone as different from me because of skin color, except in matters where pigment is concerned. I expect persons who call themselves Christian to at least attempt to follow the example of our Lord Jesus and to apologize and make amends when they fail. Jesus was quite explicit in his commandments; there are only two. Wright's speech in question does not support or follow either one. I have been aware of and opposed to racism since before I ever went to elementary school, and can discuss Rosewood or Greenwood or Memphis or Mobile or Wounded Knee or number of other horrific incidents in our history. For these I neither owe nor am I owed anything beyond remembrance and the duty to pass on knowledge, in the hope that the present and future can avoid repeating the worst of the past.
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Leemck021 year, 7 months ago
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Tkyie, Try to make your statement again without thinking about owing. Right, I don't know you, but what you said was out there. That righteousness did nothing for me. If you think that Reverend Wright owes silence and submission for the right to seem like a good American, that is the wrong signal. Re-read your statement to see you went down the wrong path, causing you to side step now. Just say you made a boo-boo, I'd rather you just say that. Try not to make statements like Reverend Wright that are offensive, unless they are constructive. Recall Jesus talking to the publicans, see Matthew 9:11-13; so by example, Wright did act to help the nation to repent. Good he didn't follow the one of driving them from the temple. Back to you, that owe thing could make someone feel there are Masters and Lords, superior beings who have paid the debt and have dominion over those lessor things who don't realize the rose tinted view. You are there with Obama and his "Bitter" Moment.
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tkyrchncs1 year, 7 months ago
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There is a price to live in a free society, and we must all pay it in one way or another. Wright is not, as demonstrated by the manner in which he lives, a victim of our society or our government. I encourage his calling down our government or our society for its sins, I even consider it a part of his responsibility as a Christian minister. I admonish him as a fellow Christian that condemnation (damning) goes beyond the pale of his Christian authority, and is in direct conflict with the commandments of our Savior, and will only serve to alienate and divide. I support his right as an American to speak as he wishes, but if he wishes to be respected as a man of God instead of just as any loud-mouth citizen, then he should set a Christ-like example.
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Leemck021 year, 7 months ago
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Tky, I can go for the last part, about respect and all. Mindful he was in his church, and I see he's not there now . . . his opinion was permitted, if not appreciated. I can think of several noted ministers who are known for advancing the notion that God will damn what they don't like; some who's name start with H. Wright shouldn't do it either, but that is off the subject of this "paying" in a society. That's an issue for the IRS. This is April and I still remember. If you are questioning his allegiance, then you may be as judgmental as you accuse him. We are working toward a more perfect union, considering that this nation has not always behaved by acting with parity, compassion and against things that "God do hate", all seven of them. You surely can go out there and find the things you can change, accept those you can't and know the difference. Vote Obama and see how change feels.
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tkyrchncs1 year, 7 months ago
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I assure you that if I am able to make it to the polls, I will vote for the nominee of the Democratic Party, just as I have for every election since 1972. I did not vote for Obama in the primary, but if he gets the nod I will proudly vote for him for President. His preacher does not reflect so badly on him to me as to some people; if he's doing his job in the legislature he's not home for many Sunday sermons anyway. Wright rubs me the wrong way for reasons of religion, not politics.
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