Busted, Yet FoxNews Continues Pentagon's Covert Propaganda »
Posted By DiffeeOnline 1 year, 6 months ago in NewsOn Sunday, a week after the Times story broke, Fox was still airing -- without disclosure -- exposed pundit Thomas McInerney. Last Wednesday, they aired another pundit, Robert H. Scales. See them for yourself:
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hyperbola1 year, 6 months ago
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The same old lies are being spread all over again by these traitors. Imagine selling your country out for cash.
The neoconning of a nation
Do No Evil â;; The Pentagon has duped Americans by organizing a bunch of retired U.S. generals -- mislabelled "independent military experts" -- to shill for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. Watch these rent-a-generals again prostitute themselves on TV by promoting the administration's party line about the great Syrian nuclear menace.
http://donoevil.propeller.com/story/2008/04/28/...
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Teech1 year, 6 months ago
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As far as a turd of an opinion piece (below), that goes for the entire FOX news network. Lies interspersed with opinion laced with Bush admin. propaganda.
BANO - Spanish for toilet - Bush Admin. News Organization.
..."The same old lies are being spread all over again by these traitors. Imagine selling your country out for cash...The neoconning of a nation..."
Yup, just imagine. And they continue to fleece America for billions with that profit-making smirk on their faces. But don't you understand that to these Cons, selling your country and slaughtering our kids for cash is patriotic! Disagreeing with it is being a traitor.
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injest1 year, 6 months ago
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"The New York Times publishes an exposé on the hidden ties between media military analysts and the Pentagon that most likely violate federal "covert propaganda" laws."
Is this the 3rd or 4th version of this NON-Story?
"covert propaganda" laws? That's a new one on me. However I think when one of these retired Gen. says something like "My sources at the Pentagon tell me"
Kinda sorta blows any "covert" claim out of the water ya think?
IMO for "covert propaganda", would be true IF these Gen were not ID as retired military, just some Joe Sixpact man on the street and/or they had no connection to the military what so ever.
Short of that what idiot doesn't know or think that Military officers would be giving their opinion on military matters based on their military experience?
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DropkickaLib1 year, 6 months ago
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quackpot1 year, 6 months ago
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disraeli1 year, 6 months ago
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Drop,
The underlying NYT story on military analysts is hardly opinion, it is hard fact. The Pentagon and the Defense department were categorically using retired high ranking military personnel to act as administration shills. Read that story before you declare that this is baseless and mere opinion.
After you read that piece I'd be interested to hear your opinion.
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crespi1 year, 6 months ago
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I found it so humorous when after Katrina FoxNews showed a fuzzy shot of a white person picking something up off the ground and said "They are rebuilding their lives." A half hour later they showed an identical fuzzy shot of a black person picking something up off the ground and said they were a "looter."
I laughed so hard at the darkies picking up stuff.
How about when FoxNews said terrorists MUST be tortured and then followed with a story of how student war protesters are "more dangerous than the terrorists and should be dealt with accordingly." FoxNews was telling us American to hand our children over for torture if they dared questioned the wisdom of Iraq.
I laughed so hard at America's college students tortured, and made think they were going to die because the asked questions. Funny!
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walden31 year, 6 months ago
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Assuming for the moment that Murdoch is Jewish, how is his religion relevant?
Now a couple of days ago I corrected you for writing that Murdoch is Jewish. I also provided evidence which I again cite below.
After being corrected about the man's religion you still erroneously write, "jew Murdock [sic]" and "megalomaniac Jew."
My second question is why after being corrected do you lie?
"Murdoch replies: "No. They say I'm a born again Christian and a Catholic convert and so on. I'm certainly a practicing Christian, I go to church quite a bit but not every Sunday and I tend to go to Catholic church -- because my wife is Catholic, I have not formally converted. And I get increasingly disenchanted with the C of E or Episcopalians as they call themselves here. But no, I'm not intensely religious as I'm sometimes described." Interviewed in 1992. Nicholas Coleridge, Paper Tigers (1993), p. 487."
http://www.nndb.com/people/420/000023351/
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Charlson1 year, 6 months ago
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It's like any other intelligence operation. Your crack team of operatives are planted behind enenmy lines with the help of friendlies and then you commence with your subversion. Seems like it's been working until it's exposure and then you have to shut down the operation and cut losses. And of course with this revelation I'm sure there are other domestic programs implimented to influence the public with self-serving propaganda from other sources in our government. Sounds like something from a 'wanta be' dictator's playbook in a second rate country.
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walden31 year, 6 months ago
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jordan111 year, 6 months ago
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ari-melber/pbs-br...
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donald511 year, 6 months ago
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...the primay neocon, Wolfowitz, being jewish would validate your argument! Wolfowitz, more than any other person (even Cheney) deserves to be rotting in a foreign prison convicted of war crimes, violation of Geneva Conventions. Wolfowitz, who even slipped preemptive war into the 1991/2 Defense Planning Guidance - retracted when made public!
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amazed1 year, 6 months ago
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My must have truncated the article badly -- it was like two disjointed facts. The Pentagon discontinued the retired military pundit program and Fox had military pundits talking. It doesn't even try to say that these guys are part of the program -- maybe they are, maybe they aren't. From this article, all I get is "and your point is?".
So, beause the NYT "exposed" that the Pentagon was keeping retired officers informed so that they could present the Pentagon's point of view, no news channel can ever talk to a retired general again? Who exactly SHOULD be analyzing military information -- Emeril? And we'll let these generals tell us how to make beef wellington -- cuz hey, that's Emeril's job -- can't trust HIM to tell you how to cook without his sponsor's bias....
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Dionys1 year, 6 months ago
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"So, beause the NYT "exposed" that the Pentagon was keeping retired officers informed so that they could present the Pentagon's point of view"
They weren't keeping them "informed," they were pushing intelligence and truthiness they knew was simply not true. Talk to a few of the people who were hoodwinked yet who had gone to Iraq to see what was really going on. They were intentionally being lied to and essentially asked to lie to the American public to put a positive spin on the fact we were losing this "war" from the get-go.
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crespi1 year, 6 months ago
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So, Drop.
Think about it. What have you or your group contributed to the discussion but things like "there IS NO temperature change, communist!" and when it became obvious there WAS your group tried EVERYTHING IN ITS power to block any kind of rational analysis of the situation, much less any solutions.
How did that help anybody? How were you helping with THAT?
Or the anti-gay hatred. REAL good idea. Especially when so many of you are apparently gay! That needless rancor REALLY HELPED our Democracy, don't you think?
Torture?
Constant surveillance of U.S. citizens?
A war we let the enemy reclaim the battle, and started ANOTHER war for the profit of a network of anti-American cronies? Did that help YOU? Didn't help many.
You block American Democracy here on propeller, to serve the delusions of greed and madness in your leaders, and that can go on no longer.
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dunkirk1 year, 6 months ago
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What is terribly funny and at the same time very sad about this are the studies showing that people who rely on Faux for the majority of their news are some of the most uninformed people. BUT if you consider the source for their news, the Bushies, it makes sense then since they ARE the most uninfomred people in this nation when you look at the decisions they made.
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walden31 year, 6 months ago
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This is the study you were referring to. Another study also showed that Daily Show viewers were actually well-informed.
"Those who primarily watch Fox News are significantly more likely to have misperceptions, while those who primarily listen to NPR or watch PBS are significantly less likely."
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles...
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hyperbola1 year, 6 months ago
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Ah my! Injest rying desperately to cover up zionist treason to america and crimes against humanity again! What else is new. Time to get the traitors out of our government, politics and media.
Dual Citizenship -- Loyal to Whom?
Do No Evil â;; So, you might ask, are there any other dual Israel-American citizens who hold US government positions that could compromise American security? Yes....
http://donoevil.propeller.com/story/2008/03/05/...
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hyperbola1 year, 6 months ago
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After WWI Congress put in laws to ban propaganda by the government. After WWII, with the example of the Nazi propaganda for Germans fresh in mind, Congress redoubled those bans and EVER SINCE, all appropriations bills explicity include a section banning the use of federal funds in government propaganda. Here is a good summary from a conservative commentator.
Conservative: Pentagon Pundit Scandal Broke the Law
Politics â;; The Pentagon military analyst program unveiled in last week's exposÃ;»Ã;© by David Barstow in the New York Times was not just unethical but illegal. It violates, for starters, specific restrictions that Congress has been placing in its annual appropriation bills every year since 1951.
http://politics.propeller.com/story/2008/04/30/...
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svensun1 year, 6 months ago
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Hyperbole, both you AND the NYT entirely MISS the point!
Those appropriations bills do not 'outlaw' 'government propaganda'!!!
They forbid the use of the money appropriated in those particular APPROPRIATIONS BILLS to be SPENT on particular forms of 'propaganda'!!!
I will repeat what I said earlier: every time a government official offers an opinion, that constitutes 'government propaganda'!!!
The First Amendment guarantees that such speech cannot be made 'illegal'! Government employees don't give up their First Amendment rights when they assume office.
Ultimately, I am going to quote AlGore on this one: "there is no controlling legal authority"!
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DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year, 6 months ago
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I wonder if you are rude for fun or it's just your 'way'
But I don't think I've read anything by you that wasn't rude to someone
If that's just your personality, then thank God you have this forum to vent on
I also recommend a heavy bag if you're physically able to use one. Or some other form of very physical exercise, but I find hitting a heavy bag useful for negative emotional release
if you just enjoy being angry and rude for fun, then please disregard this post [if you haven't already a priori]
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walden31 year, 6 months ago
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I love the heavy bag. Great advice. I just had to buy a new pair of gloves because my old ones fell apart.
The unfortunate thing is that I would like to engage Midleft, but it's impossible to when someone displays that sort of vitriol and bombasticism.
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