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Posted By not2needy 1 year, 6 months ago in NewsTexas - Texas officials told legislators Wednesday that they're investigating the possible sexual abuse of some young boys taken from a polygamist sect's ranch, as well as broken bones among other children.
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not2needy1 year, 6 months ago
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In written and oral testimony provided to lawmakers Wednesday, officials with the state Department of Family and Protective Services said interviews and journal entries suggested that boys may have been sexually abused.
Earlier, the department's commissioner, Carey Cockerell, told lawmakers that at least 41 children, some of them "very young," have evidence of broken bones.
The state has custody of 464 children from the Yearning For Zion Ranch in the west Texas prairie town of Eldorado, including a baby born to a teen mother Tuesday.
This just gets sicker all the time. However in this article, it explains the lengths the mothers of these children were willing to go to in order to keep the authorities from finding the truth, i.e., changing names, erasing names from name bands and exchanging children.
An honestly sick bunch, sexually perverse, IMO..
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Bkumm1 year, 6 months ago
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Although I am distraught by what I see coming out of this story, perhaps we should be taking something else away from this.
There are two questions that keep popping into mind for me about this story.
1. This is about sex and power not religion. If this country could look at sex in a natural way and not be so repressed about it, would this kind of thing happen? If a man or woman could have two or more spouses openly, wouldn't this kind of thing cease to be a problem? It went on so long and abusively because it was in the shadows.
2. What is it about religion that drives this quest for power? We've seen this come up quite a bit over the last several years and I just don't understand it. Christianity, the religion with which I am most familiar, does not support a quest for power in this world, but rather a surrender of power in this world in an effort to better love our fellow humans. I just don't get it.
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questionseverything1 year, 6 months ago
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one of the things that bothers me about all of this is
the "state" is protecting these children in an illegal manner,by law each of those kids should of had a mini trial before they were put into foster care..we call them shelter care hearings in illinois and they have to happen with in 48 hrs...in tx its 2 weeks BUT the state of tx did not give them individual trials///they did a group thingy,that violates every one of those kids civil rights as well as their parents
i am not bringing this up to defend those parents...i dont know what happened by my folks taught me...when a facist dictator comes along and starts to deny peops their civil rights they ALWAYS start with unpopular groups
we have seen "them" start with terrorist,druggies,sex offenders
we could be listing the gypsys and the jews just as easily
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Natureboy1 year, 6 months ago
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What is it about religion that drives this quest for power?
What is it about power that it seeks to dignify itself as religion?
Judeo-christian religion, at least, seems to be the process of putting one's words in the mouth of the Ultimate Authority Figure in the sky so everyone will do what you say.
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blinkers1 year, 6 months ago
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Yes, Bkumm, I'd go along with your views, and definitely share your incomprehension at what appears to have gone on, in this secretive compound. I don't get it either.
But those empowered to uphold the law, and enforce its dictates, do not have the luxury of "incomprehension". Laws appear to have been broken, and action is needed to bring wrongdoers to justice. Hopefully this process will mean the very minimum of discomfort for the truly innocent.
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Spadecaller1 year, 6 months ago
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When I have observed the mothers of these children speak, they seem awfully removed from reality. It appears to me that these are traumatized people that have been living in a sort of hellish dreamworld for so long that they are removed from the important concerns mothers and parents would have for their children.
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Dionys1 year, 6 months ago
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Humanity has always had its horrors.
One has to look no further than China under Mao as an example of what horrors humans can perpetrate upon one another as a rule to see that it has nothing to do with Religion and that people will often co-opt or use religion to excuse their basically human actions.
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Poulenc1 year, 6 months ago
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But isn't religion ABOUT, at least in part, surrendering TO authority--to the ultimate one "up there?" (Let's put the niceties of finding the self by giving it up aside for now.)
Those who manage the flock are by definition acting in loco deitis (I just made that word up, but you follow); it's all too tempting to abuse that role, and many do.
A sect is the whole deal in seriously pathological mode, as it's main job is to create a hermetic, "impenetrable" world with its own rules within the world, to do its best to exclude any challenges to its authority/autonomy.
Ergo a great potential for abuse, as we've recently seen.
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Natureboy1 year, 6 months ago
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"Attributing to a religion the problem that is plainly the fault of the person who uses religion seems dishonest."
The problem is at least in part the problem of a religion that teaches obedience to authority and establishes priests and ministers as that authority. A religion which taught people to be self-directed instead of mind-fscking them into thinking they are "lost" and need the church, or a church leader, to lead them to the light, would not have such problems.
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