Bush Says We're 'Winning' In Afghanistan, State Dept. Says Not! »
Posted By Radiofreeeuropa 1 year, 6 months ago in NewsThe State Department released its annual Country Reports on Terrorism. The opening lines of the report are a stark rebuke of Bush's claim only the day before that we are winning in Afghanistan. The State Department reports al Qaeda now has "greater mobility" in the region.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 6 months ago
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FTA-Last year, which was the bloodiest year in Afghanistan since 2001. Maj. Gen. Jeffrey Schloesser, who commands U.S. forces in Afghanistan, said last week, "This year won't be different." instability, coupled with the Islamabad brokered cease-fire agreement in effect for the first half of 2007 along the Pakistan-Afghanistan frontier, appeared to have provided AQ leadership greater mobility and ability to conduct training and operational planning, particularly that targeting Western Europe and the United States. AQ leaders continued to plot attacks and to cultivate stronger operational connections that radiated outward from Pakistan to affiliates throughout the Middle East, North Africa, and Europe.
Who was it that said the Iraq Fallacy detracted from legitimate efforts to combat terror in Afghanistan?
Well here's a hint- It wasn't Bush. Or any self proclaimed experienced candidate.
Bush is on camera here spinning like a top.
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Dionys1 year, 6 months ago
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Surefire way to understand what's really going on:
Take Bush's statements regarding the fact.
The stronger he insists something is going "great," the stronger the reality is that it's going poorly.
Just take what he insists upon, reverse it to the same degree he pushes it and you have the truth behind the truthiness.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 6 months ago
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That was not always the case, lost opportunities and mismanagement by the Bush-neoclowns who apparently changed their mind about Bin Laden and AQ. (If going after him was ever really what they intended). Focused on their bogus Iraq story instead of securing this operation.
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Endoscopy1 year, 6 months ago
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The Viet Nam generals have admitted that after the last offensive they had they were busted. Nothing much left to fight with. Then the Libs kept up the drumbeat about we lost and can't win. Cronkite came out and said it. We then pulled out of a won war and our returning troops were reviled. Kennedy killed the money to have the south have arms and ammunition. Then the killing fields started and millions died.
That same scenario is likely in Iraq.
You libs seem to like to see millions die. Why is that?
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tkyrchncs1 year, 6 months ago
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We have won exactly what we set out for: and entrenched military presence in the Middle East. This was the goal. The verbiage is just another tool to achieve the goal. You cannot tell me that Washington has no international political analysts that could see that sending an army to Afghanistan or Iran would bog us down for decades, or generations. McCain right now uses Japan and Korea as examples of extended military presence, as if some state in the Middle East might become an ally, or even a democracy because of our presence. Since our executive and his likely successors see a need for this, we need Congress to defund military operations in the Middle East. It is the last hope we have of any control over this situation.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 6 months ago
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Maybe the heroin trade was what they wanted a piece of? Maybe that Enron pipeline they kissed the Taliban's azzs for? (but didn't get, for all their brown lipstick...)
Who really knows? But they sure didn't take this operation seriously if their expressed goals were ever really their goals at all.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 6 months ago
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Just about all media have ties to the pentagon. Most are military suppliers- G.E., Westinghouse, come to mind. Of course as pointed out in an article a few days back, just about everything is connected to the military today. From toothbrushes to baby food.
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memestryker1 year, 6 months ago
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tchef,
I take Bush at his word. He's a fairly simple man. He actually believes if we can just get "democracy" going, it will ultimately turn things around.
Of course, the U.S. is a democratic republic, not a strict democracy, and even with the built-in checks and balances, sometimes an ideological group successfully sweeps the branches of government, in direct opposition to the founders' ideal of separation of powers.
It seems like leaders always ignore and/or cherry pick from history. It's useful to examine what's happening in the other countries where we introduced "democracy?"
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rightfromwrong1 year, 6 months ago
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we all know this war on terror is all B.S anyway. Most people that have seen movies like "911 Mysteries and Loose Change" realize that their government was at least complicit in the attack and that it served their agenda to go to Iraq for their oil. There were no WMD and no Saddam affiliation with Al Qaeda. More drugs are coming from Afghanistan than ever and like the Russians, the American effort is turning out to be a nightmare. But the right wing media has to play Bush's game of being their puppet!!!!! Nothing will change if Hillary gets the nod and America will be worse if McCain wins!!!!
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 6 months ago
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Not only is this man an embarrassment. His "selection" has done so much damage nationally and internationally, whoever gets the next 5 presidencies will be dealing with Bush Fallout. The Organization that put him there to do their bidding has gone nowhere. Oh - shouldn't Fox news be mentioning That Rove (who reports on the democratic nomination on Fox) is involved with the McCain campaign. How disingenious can you be?
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miklkit1 year, 6 months ago
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Fox and rove deserve each other. They are both professional liars.
http://www.relfe.com/media_can_legally_lie.html
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koranagirl1 year, 6 months ago
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And on the same day, articles came out that Afghanistan has one of the highest infant and maternal death rates in the world. There are almost no women doctors or nurses there. Women routinely bleed to death during or after childbirth. They die in agony. Most women of child bearing years there are already anemic (60%), and so they die. And when the mother dies, 75% of the time the baby dies also because there is no one to feed it or keep it warm.
The average Afghani has almost no health care, no doctors, no hospitals, few teachers, few books, but we send them millions and millions of dollars in munitions.
For the average person in Afghanistan, the war does not work. Humanitarian aide and education does and this works on a permanents basis.
Imagine if we sent them millions of dollars in books, teachers, health care providers, satellite TV for every community so people oculd get an education to understand that democracy and not war lording is the way to go.
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bubba21 year, 6 months ago
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It is not just a health care issue for women in Afghanistan. They have basically NO rights whatsoever.
The media in recent years has tried to portray that women's rights are advancing there, but it is not true.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/ri...
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Dionys1 year, 6 months ago
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" There are almost no women doctors or nurses there."
What does this have to do with the infant and maternal death rate? Last time I checked male nurses and doctors did just fine and last time I was in Afghanistan there were a lot of what people in the states would call midwifes.
The US has an extraordinarily high rate of infant and maternal deaths for such a 'developed' country.
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Dionys1 year, 6 months ago
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Alternative viewpoints are great. Especially from Muslims. It'd be nice to hear in the American media more from actual, real, everday Muslims. Just like it'd be nice to hear from all the moderate Christians in America. Or from your average Joe, rather than all the far right or far left nutters. Unfortunately that's not how it works.
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bubba21 year, 6 months ago
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The even more astounding and mind-boggling aspect of this, is that Bush supporters will actually defend what HE said over what the state department says, and they will say that we are just "haters" and just continue to diss Bush.
Bush IS incompetent - Rove and Cheney - and Rumsfeld - have been telling him what to do for his entire administration. He can't even utter a complete and comprehensible sentence without a script. I have the "George W Bush Out of Office Countdown" calendar for 2008, and the daily quotes PROVE that.
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memestryker1 year, 6 months ago
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midleft, of course this is true, and the corporatists like Cheney and the gang are pulling his strings. The problem is, so many nutjobs run countries that Bush isn't all that unusual, except as a recent U.S. president.
Lots of puppet emperors out there. That's one reason we need to hold the U.N. at arm's length, too. Just a different bunch of ideological puppets.
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memestryker1 year, 6 months ago
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I've occasionally seen him get angry and the real Bush comes out and he's fairly eloquent (amazingly) and I finally see someone really is home. Or when his daughter called him from a TV show, and he seemed downright human. But most of the time he's just a mouthpiece for his base.
But he's smart like a fox--he knows how to get elected (who to listen to and where to place his loyalty) and when to speak and when to shut up to fool enough people to keep himself top dog.
Michael Moore is just a leftist version of the far right's Rush Limbaugh in many ways (cherry-picking facts to support a bias), but Bush's speech to his base at a fund-raising dinner in the movie "Fahrenheit 9/11" was chilling.
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Spadecaller1 year, 6 months ago
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Texas and Afganistan have quie a few similarities. They are the main centers for dispersing drugs. Interesting how the poppy seed farmers stay in business in Afghanistan and our Southern borders remain porous -- no matter what legistlation is passed. And all this is happening while the new Nafta highway is under construction in Texas. Coindidence? I think not!
I guess we need more guest workers here and in Afghanistan. Rest assured, Bush and Cheney are on the job.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 6 months ago
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I believe in the rule of law, it is already against the law to sneak into this or any other country without going through immigration protocols. I am not against immigrants at all, but the businesses who invite this problem. It's a loophole to get around paying minimum wages, social security and payroll taxes. Every single proposal has been stupid, a big fence??? Did these idiots ever hear of a big ladder??? Give us a break.
Want it solved? Fine the companies who hire people not here legally. Fine them enough to pay for the Iraq travesty. If they repeat the offense throw the CEOs and managers in prison.
This is an assault on American workers. Immigration procedures need to be adjusted to be fair, but this is simple exploitation. Put those who hire people at substandard wages behind bars. That will end the problem.
It is not the workers fault, they were invited-nod nod wink wink by the government and the businesses.
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hdthehn1 year, 6 months ago
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http://www.bushwatch.com/bushlies.htm
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 6 months ago
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good link- some favorites-
"[Castro] welcomes sex tourism," Bush told a room of law enforcement officials in Florida, according to the Los Angeles Times. "Here's how he bragged about the industry," Bush said. "This is his quote: 'Cuba has the cleanest and most educated prostitutes in the world.'"
"As it turns out, Bush had lifted that quotation not from an actual Castro speech but rather from a 2001 essay written by then Dartmouth University undergraduate Charles Trumbull. In the essay, Trumbull did appear to quote a Castro speech about prostitution. Sadly, the student made the quotation up.
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silvera1 year, 6 months ago
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He can utter the most outrageous fabrications and his ovine disciples can only nod their little pinheads in assent. "Yes master Bush, there were WMDs, Al Quaeda was there, mission accomplished, no permanent presence in Iraq, we don't do torture, there's no recession, the Surge is working, we're winning in Afganistan". And...perhaps the most unbelievable of all..."I'm not really a moronic imbecile".
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mesodude1 year, 6 months ago
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Does Bush know Condi and Gates are still begging our NATO allies for more help?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-EFDCfKyBI
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riverat1 year, 6 months ago
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This is Bush trying to spin and lie his way to a legacy. He'll have a legacy--as the dumbest, most corrupt and incompetent administration ever by anyones measure. Watch out--the next President will have to suffer the neocons howling that all was fine when they made the handoff.
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hyperbola1 year, 6 months ago
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This is more involved than just the Bush regime, it has been going on for some time - and is something Americans have seen before. I don't see ANY of the remaining three presidential candidates as likely to do much about the perversion of our foreign policy by zioncons or the perversion of our economy by corrupt crony capitalists. Do You?
The Great Silence
Our Gilded Age and Theirs
... Mark Twain would feel right at home today. Crony capitalism, the main object of his satirical wit in The Gilded Age, is thriving. Incestuous plots as outsized as the one in which the Union Pacific Railroad's chief investors conspired with a wagon-load of government officials, including Ulysses S. Grant's vice president, to loot the federal treasury once again lubricate the machinery of public policy-making.
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hyperbola1 year, 6 months ago
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A cronyism that would have been familiar to Twain has made the wheels go round in these terminal years of the Bush administration. Even the invasion and decimation of Iraq was conceived and carried out as an exercise in grand-strategic cronyism; call it cronyism with a vengeance. All of this has been going on since Ronald Reagan brought back morning to America.
Reagan's America was gilded by design. In 1981, when the New Rich and the New Right paraded in their sumptuous threads in Washington to celebrate at the new president's inaugural ball, it was called a "bacchanalia of the haves." Diana Vreeland, style guru (as well as Nancy Reagan confidante), was stylishly blunt: "Everything is power and money and how to use them bothâ;¦ We mustn't be afraid of snobbism and luxury."
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TrueProgressive1 year, 6 months ago
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All I want to add is to note that 4 persons "sunk" this story. Of course the four are part of the usual regressive cabal that routinely pollutes these blogs. What I want to know is, what exactly is it that these clowns are "sinking?" The posting consists of what appears to be an undoctored video of Bush's press conference, coupled with a summarization of a State Department report directly contradicting what Bush said in the conference. How does one "sink" objective, incontestable, verifiable fact? like it or not, the facts are the facts. I know, those in rightwingworld simply erase fact and revise history. But could it be that what these regressives are "sinking" is this society's allowing these stories to be published, and the truth about this government to be made known? If that is the case, then these regressives are truly dangerous people.
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 6 months ago
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The only way any organism with a brain stem can support the Bush Regime- deny truth.
It's a mere game to these people with some skewed view of right-left, gops-dems, and con-lib slogans. They have less depth than a stick figure cartoon, less integrity than my ***K, and less comprehension of events and their implications than a log. Quite the parade they put on though, look there they go, one following the other over a cliff, "C'mon join the lemming paraaaaaaa...
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