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gamahuche1 year, 6 months ago

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RFE - I got a "this video is no longer available" message at the link in the story.
More later - I've got to run out and find a flowering cherry tree!
Cheers, g

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  Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 6 months ago
  
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  You can view his tale directly at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccYpf11AzJ8
  The quotes are in the article though, it's a short clip.
  
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      quackpot1 year, 6 months ago
      
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      It sure does get interesting.
      
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        gamahuche1 year, 6 months ago
        
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        Thanks Ben et al! Much later I got back to it.. been busy with May 1st Love celebrations..
        
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        UnusualSuspect1 year, 6 months ago
        
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        Wow...we're winning in Iran, and now we hear we're winning in Afghanistan. What great news! And we owe it all to our own President Bush.
        
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        Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 6 months ago
        
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        YUP! Amazing no? How about that!
        
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        scriblerus11 year, 6 months ago
        
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        Shrub had to say something, didn't he? Don't misunderestimate him. Even now he can say such nonsense with a straight face without blinking. That takes real talent.
        
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        Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 6 months ago
        
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        Scribs!!! Good to see ya!
        
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        Teech1 year, 6 months ago
        
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        Bush. Oh, that poor, sorry little man. Sad. Pathetic. Pathological. But still deadly as ever.
        
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      Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 6 months ago
      
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      Thanks onionhead, that is most interesting indeed! Someone from the press has the idea!!! Martha Raddatz deserves an award for pursuing the truth. So Bush says "See, this is an ideological struggle. These aren't isolated, law-enforcement moments. We're dealing with a group of ideologues who use asymmetrical warfare-that means killing innocent people, to try to achieve their objectives. And one objective is to drive us out of Afghanistan, Iraq, the Middle East, or anywhere else where we try to confront them."
      Many points here:
      1.Ideologues- Hmmm, the Neocons are quite the idealogues themselves. They have chosen to use violence, and absolute self righteousness as well. They want us to believe their actions in Iraq are somehow better than other idealogical violence...
      
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        Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 6 months ago
        
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        2. These are not isolated law enforcement incidents- Um define "al-Qaeda" then, Is it anyone who fights for Sharia Law as government law? Because that's what Bush gave Iraq, that is the end result in Iraq. How many lost lives and how many trillions of taxpayer dollars will be wasted on this wonderful outcome? Or is it an Organization run by Bin Laden? WTF knows?
        3. "And one objective is to drive us out of Afghanistan, Iraq, the Middle East, or anywhere else where we try to confront them." Is anyone who wants the US out of the ME an enemy? I hope not. How many U.S. citizens want us out of the M.E.? Though it may be an unpopular view, can anyone really argue that instability in the region is not a direct result of long ongoing foreign imperialism? So more imperialism is somehow better... isn't that the definition of insanity? Continuing the same actions over and over expecting a different result.
        
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        Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 6 months ago
        
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        4. U.S. actions in Afghanistan were perceived as a legitimate response to the events on 9 11. If Bush really believes his own diatribe of how important it is to stick to our guns in Afghanistan and help secure the country. (most people agree with the President on this one). It's too bad he's virtually forgotten about the effort there, diverting vital resources to the BS Iraq "threat" instead.
        
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        Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 6 months ago
        
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        Indeed!!!
        
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        Endoscopy1 year, 6 months ago
        
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        You have fun lying to yourself.
        1. You libs are great ideologues.
        2. al-Qaeda are followers of Osama bin Laden.
        3. Muslim terrorists or haven't you heard of them?
        4. Let me remember, Oh thats right. We went into Iraq for the UN.
        You sure are silly. Like to rewrite history like all super libs.
        
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        Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 6 months ago
        
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        Endo, I'm disappointed, I pegged you as one of the folks who reasoned their positions. What you have stated is nonsense. And certainly not true. The UN DID NOT send the US into Iraq, Bush would not even wait for the weapons inspection to finish (likely he knew their findings would thwart his designs on war.) It was and is a rogue action. If al-Qaeda are the followers of Bin Laden how do you justify invading the most secular country in the region (whose leader Bin Laden hated as much if not more than any other "infidels")and turning into an Iranian style theocracy???
        If Bin Laden is indeed responsible for 9-11 how do you justify the focus being taken off him, allowing him to escape, and the invasion of a sovereign nation who had nothing to do whatsoever with 9-11??
        
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        Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 6 months ago
        
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        What exactly is a LIB? Anyone who doesn't buy bush bull? Good Grief! Your precious Bush has expanded the federal executive powers, called the constitution a GD piece of paper, transformed fiscal surplus into massive debt, and destabilized the ME. I put forth the proposition that you have no concept whatsoever of what conservatism is nor liberalism. The imperialistic designs of PNAC are well documented.
        http://www.sojo.net/index.cfm?action=magazine.a...
        http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Proj...
        http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/articl...
        How on earth is any of this conservative?
        
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        gamahuche1 year, 6 months ago
        
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        OOPS, accidental pos to Endofhope! I seem to have pressed the wrong button, as the bishop said to the actress.
        
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  Blackacereturn1 year, 6 months ago
  
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  He is not connecting with reality, it's no longer funny to watch, it's sad to watch.
  
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    Lurch1 year, 6 months ago
    
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    4.x GIs killed for every Bush admin lie leading up to the war, and that number continues to grow every day.
    
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  Blackacereturn1 year, 6 months ago
  
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  I think someone in the White House is having a little fun with Mr. Bush, He made this statement days after an attempt was made on the life of the president of that countries life. I can see someone or all of the White House Press core sitting in a corner giggling while he made this speech!
  
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