Jewish Palestinian speaks out against 'apartheid state' »

Posted By hyperbola 1 year, 2 months ago in News

His duty, he says, is the same of all persons' worldwide--to mobilize against war crimes perpetrated by governments in citizens' own names. "Not in my name," Davis cries out--a closed hand gesticulating his affront. "Not in my name as an individual and citizen." He raises his voice as loud as he is able to shout. "Not in my

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    Edmar141 year, 2 months ago

    There are 55 Moslem countries in the world. 52 of them are text book aparthied states. Women, and non moslems are treated as second and third class citizens. Non Moslims are not permitted to enter Mecca in Saudi Arabia. The Palestinians however are not Israeli citizens and as such are not entitled to the same rights as citizens. That is not aparthied, as aparthied is an afrikaner word that was created to segregate white citizens from non white citizens. Every country has different standards for citizens and non citizens. Hyperbola just happens to miss these little important realities. How convenient!!!!!

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    Thinker221 year, 2 months ago

    > herding the "subhumans" into Bantusans and pretending not to count them was also a favorite trick of the afrikaners and in this the zionists are no different.

    If you really believe that this is the case, you'll have no troubles to NAME a couple of Israeli "Bantustans" where the Zionists herd those "subhuman christian and moslem citizens of israel" (by the way Israel is A STATE and in English its name should start with a CAPITAL letter, just like a person's name.

    Well, I'm all ears, 'hyperbola'. Can you NAME a couple of these Israeli "Bantustans" where the Zionists herd those "subhuman christian and moslem citizens of israel" if you don't mind?

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    Thinker221 year, 2 months ago

    Question:

    Can you NAME a couple of these Israeli "Bantustans" where the Zionists herd those "subhuman christian and moslem citizens of israel" if you don't mind?

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    > Sure, the prison camp in Gaza is one of the most obvious.

    Well, of course... except that Gaza is NOT IN ISRAEL, 'hyperbola', is it?

    It seems that in addition to your admisssion of having no clue of WHO "Palestinians" were or WHAT was the meaning of "ethnic cleansing" you have no clue of Palestinian georgaphy.

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    Thinker221 year, 2 months ago

    > The UN partition... required that the christian and moslem population NOT be discriminated by the zionists.

    As I've pointed out many times ALL Israeli citizens have exactly the same rights guaranteed by Israeli laws. None of them are discriminated.

    > The immediate ethnic cleansing by zionists in fact invalidates the UN partition.

    The US partition was AN OFFER to end the conflict by creating two states in Palestine. The Jews AGREED to the conditions of the UN offer and the Arabs REJECTED (and by doing it they've, obviously, INVALIDATED it). Further, it was the war against Israel started by the Arabs that caused mass migration of the Arab population, not some mysterious "ethnic cleansing" you're unable to define. People tend to run from battlefields, you know...

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    Thinker221 year, 2 months ago

    > Time for the one million plus prisoners in Gaza created by zionist ethnic cleansing to return to their homes in Jaffa, Beersheba, the Negev, ... as guaranteed by international human rights law.

    People of Gaza can "return" to any place or state willing to accept them. Israel is not such place. The "international human rights law" guarantees their "right to return" to Israel no more than it guarantees the right of the grandchildren of Germans who once lived in Danzig or East Prussia to "return" to Poland and Russia, respectively.

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    Thinker221 year, 1 month ago

    > If you deny the UN resolutions are appropriate, then the very existence of the israeli state is subject to revision. Certainly its existence as a "jewish" state is unacceptable in the modern world.

    I do not deny the UN Resolutions, the Arabs do. They've rejected the UN Partition Resolution 181 calling for establishment of two states in Palestine, the UN Resolution 242 declaring that EVERY state in the region has the right to exist in safe and secured boundaries and every single UN Resolution based on that UNR242 assumption.

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      Thinker221 year, 1 month ago

      > Certainly its existence as a "jewish" state is unacceptable in the modern world.

      Of course... just as the existence of France as a "french" state, Germany as a "german" state, Spain as a "spanish" state, Japan as a "japanese" state, Russia as a "russian" state as well as the existence of the 21 Arab states.

      If and when the "modern world" will eliminate all these and many other nation-states that are "certainly unacceptable" we'll continue.

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