Oprah Discusses Rev. Wright's Church, And Why She Left »
Posted By MyWayOnNow 1 year, 2 months ago in NewsReverend Jeremiah Wright has become a household name due to his association with Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama. However, Obama's not the only famous figure to attend Wright's church.
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getreal11 year, 2 months ago
Huffington Post can run all the damage control it wants with CNN joining in. I saw, I heard and I was quite disappointed. You just don't play down the past or the present happenings of life so easy. There are people that do not forget. God didn't tell man how many times to turn the cheek.
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mesodude1 year, 2 months ago
What I find hilarious about comments like this is that it's the very people who are pretending that this "controversy" has shaken their faith in humanity to the core (LOL) who are quick to tell people who were enslaved that they need to "just get over" America's more than 300 year history of racism against blacks.
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cushi1 year, 2 months ago
I'm so glad you made this point. I just read the article and was thinking the same thing. There is nothing of substance here.
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Poulenc1 year, 2 months ago
Let us not, please, rehash the Wright-Obama drama,
pro or con. Those who can "forgive" O. his desultory disconnect with W. will, those who cannot, won't.
However, I find this, form the article, telling:
"...But Winfrey also had spiritual reasons for the parting....[she] cited her fatigue with organized religion and a desire to be involved with a more inclusive ministry. In time, she found one: her own. "There is the Church of Oprah now," said her longtime friend, with a laugh. "She has her own following."
Amen.
The point being, that Winfrey and Wright share a ministry: show biz.
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djrevelky1 year, 2 months ago
I accidentally gave you a positive.
I think the Wright-Obama thing needs to be rehashed, and rehashed, and rehashed.
Obama didn't agree with what Wright said, he has admitted that. Fair enough. But Obama also said he stayed friends with Wright for political reasons. Interesting...so this man sacrifices his morals to get ahead in politics?
HEY! He said it.
So either Obama agrees with Wright, or he sacrificed his "morals" for the political connections Wright had. We either have a crazy conspiracy theory "poor black me" racist or we have a who holds nothing sacred if he can gain some momentum.
Obama makes the Clinton's look honest.
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hyperbola1 year, 2 months ago
Some people can stirred into braying wolf packs with nothing but phony slogans, as Hitler first demonstrated on a massive scale. You seem to fit right in.
Wright And Ridiculous
Of all the strange features of this presidential race, the tarnishing of Barack Obama has got to be the most ridiculous. First Obama was accused of anti-religious elitism. Then he was accused of identifying with the underclass anger of his spiritual mentor. Excuse me, but which is it? Am I supposed to believe that Obama is a supercilious elitist or a menacing ghetto radical? Is he contemptuous of religion or too close to a religious leader? Obama's critics don't bother to say. Meanwhile, real issues go relatively unheeded.
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Poulenc1 year, 2 months ago
Well, dj, you can, I suppose keep the spectre of racial divide alive and well, if you choose. God knows, Wright had a whack at it.
I would say that O. may be guilty of naivete or sloppiness or a certain reticence to distance himself from a community of which he's a part, but dishonesty or political expediency, as you suggest?
Practically speaking, for a man running for president, and therefore requiring endorsement from a mass of Americans, there are no "political reasons" sufficient to justify remaining connected to Wright. You don't have to be a political consultant to see that....
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djrevelky1 year, 2 months ago
I'm keeping racial divide alive by using someone's own words? I think not.
I thought I was pretty fair...either Obama agrees with Wright and is a racist himself or he doesn't and just stuck with Wright strictly for political gain.
And there were political reasons to stay connected to Wright. He was a very powerful man in Chicago, especially to black voters...in a black precinct. I don't think it takes a genius to see that Wright connections got Obama elected to local and state positions.
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stephen-johnson1 year, 2 months ago
--According to two sources, Winfrey was never comfortable with the tone of Wright's more incendiary sermons, which she knew had the power to damage her standing as America's favorite daytime talk-show host. "Oprah is a businesswoman, first and foremost," said one longtime friend, who requested anonymity when discussing Winfrey's personal sentiments. "She's always been aware that her audience is very mainstream, and doing anything to offend them just wouldn't be smart."--
Because money was involved, Oprah could plainly see the problems with being associated with Wright had. Obama, like most politicians, got too entangled with ideology to see them, though.
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hyperbola1 year, 2 months ago
Ah my, the racist gang rape squad again!
The all-white elephant in the room
Bored by those endless replays of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright? If so, go directly to YouTube, search for "John Hagee Roman Church Hitler," and be recharged by a fresh jolt of clerical jive.
What you'll find is a white televangelist, the Rev. John Hagee, lecturing in front of an enormous diorama. Wielding a pointer, he pokes at the image of a woman with Pamela Anderson-sized breasts, her hand raising a golden chalice. The woman is "the Great ******," Mr. Hagee explains, and she is drinking "the blood of the Jewish people." That's because the Great ****** represents "the Roman Church," which, in his view, has thirsted for Jewish blood throughout history, from the Crusades to the Holocaust.
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cushi1 year, 2 months ago
Why would anybody stick with a controversial figure for political gain?? That in and of itself makes absolutely NO sense!
If you would turn your back on someone who has played an important role in your life based on a few controversial rantings over a 30 yr career, then you are not a very loyal friend, much less a forgiving one, AND you can be classified as someone who cuts and runs at the first sign of trouble! Most people, I dare say, would give the person the benefit of the doubt and wait, as Obama did, for further confirmation before deciding to cut the person loose entirely.
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Mdiar1 year, 2 months ago
Or he agreed with parts of what Wright said and not other parts, particularly the racially driven parts?
This post was placed in the wrong spot.
My apologies.
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Candida1 year, 2 months ago
djrevelky: "either Obama agrees with Wright and is a racist himself or he doesn't and just stuck with Wright strictly for political gain."
Are those the only two alternatives?
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"I don't think it takes a genius to see that Wright connections got Obama elected to local and state positions."
How about the presidential primaries? Was it Wright who raised all the funds and who made people across the country vote for him?
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newbie04201 year, 2 months ago
Oprah realized rather quickly how f-d in the head this guy is yet Obama stayed for political gain, just more proof Obama isn't going to change anything and that he's a politician like the rest.
Obama 08-Change I can't believe in.
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newbie04201 year, 2 months ago
Oprah had plenty of popularity and money before and after Wright, can Obama say the same?
Oprah is not a politician claiming to be all about change and hope while in reality being just another crooked Chicago politician who uses people for political gain.
Obama 08-Chaneg I can't believe in.
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hyperbola1 year, 2 months ago
Your racist double standards are showing through.
The All-White Elephant in the Room
BORED by those endless replays of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright? If so, go directly to YouTube, search for "John Hagee Roman Church Hitler," and be recharged by a fresh jolt of clerical jive...
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Mr. McCain says he does not endorse any of Mr. Hagee's calumnies, any more than Barack Obama endorses Mr. Wright's. But those who try to give Mr. McCain a pass for his embrace of a problematic preacher have a thin case. It boils down to this: Mr. McCain was not a parishioner for 20 years at Mr. Hagee's church.
That defense implies, incorrectly, that Mr. McCain was a passive recipient of this bigot's endorsement. In fact, by his own account, Mr. McCain sought out Mr. Hagee, who is perhaps best known for trying to drum up a pre-emptive "holy war" with Iran. (This preacher's rantings may tell us more about McCain's policy views than Wright's tell us about Obama's.)
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cleare1 year, 2 months ago
well Obama and Winfrey may have quit, but i'm ready to join. i saw rev. Wright on Bill Moyers last week and was very impressed.
for those of you who can't hear past the God XXXX America statement, i think you should be wary of how sound bites can be manipulated by taking them out of context. frankly i too, XXXX the past administrations of my country for it's lousy policies towards people, for it's corruption and for it's pretentions to imperialism.
Wright's ministry seems to me to be "walking the walk" of Christ...tending the poor, sick, and elderly. unfortunately, I can't say the same about my own country.
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newbie04201 year, 2 months ago
"Wright's ministry seems to me to be "walking the walk" of Christ...tending the poor, sick, and elderly. unfortunately, I can't say the same about my own country."
Tell that to my buddy's sister who is going to Africa for a month to help in an AIDS relief program.
Tell that to the millions of people who gave money after the tsunami.
Tell that to the millions of people who give money to starving kids in other countries.
Tell that to the BILLIONS of dollars Americans give in aid all over the world every year.
You're part of the problem not the solution, damn America my a$$.
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cloud151 year, 2 months ago
Cleare, most people can easily get past God Damn America, because people are saying that more and more each day. Thats his opinion, and he is well within his rights to say it. The problem comes when he starts spreading lies such as AIDs being used to perform a genocide on people of color. The man who preaches against the racism of the man, is himself a racist against white people. Go figure...
(this is a lot further down than where I posted so be aware)
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Candida1 year, 1 month ago
cleare: "well Obama and Winfrey may have quit, but i'm ready to join"
I see you haven't traded any IQ points for looks. I too am impressed with Reverend Wright's two speeches I've heard, and if I ever wanted to join any church, I would consider his.
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Leemck021 year, 2 months ago
Why are we so stuck on the Wright comments, they won't do any good to solve the economic problems and war issues that are more to what a President is going to wrestle with. The Post-American World, by Fareed Zakaria does a good job with how America is losing its grip as a world leader. Does McCain's party stand for change, seeing it was the reason for the crisis we face now; the no-tax and spend. Hillary, I am sorry, but can she overcome thousands of years of tradition in Asia and the Middle East? Worrying if someone remembers the poor record of Civil Rights in America, which is real, is valid to a point but the nation nearing collapse is far more important. Are you going to exclude Obama as a potential leader who stands the best chance to recover or will we go on about what we know to be true, racism is real. If you can't get pass race and gender, think about having a future we can believe in. W did do it, as we see the Dollar is on the ropes. Get smart.
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Poulenc1 year, 2 months ago
Yes, Hyp, above, it IS truly a can't-win-for-losing snare that's been set by O.'s foes: damned for being elitist AND for a "too radical" identification with America's underclass, black division.
The cries of elitism are, to my mind, too transparently about bigoted resentment, as in, how dare that uppity n*****r act, think, and--worst of all--do better than me?
Let us not forget that O.'s mom was on food stamps, not exactly the case with Bush's progenitors, or those of HC, either.
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newbie04201 year, 2 months ago
"Let us not forget that O.'s mom was on food stamps, not exactly the case with Bush's progenitors, or those of HC, either."
You must be talking about his white mother right?
But let's forget the fact his BLACK father was a HARVARD grad, something no white person in my family has ever acheived.
Lets forget the fact he was somehow able to afford trips to Pakistan in college, where did you go for spring break?
Let's for get the fact that he and his wife have made over $200K since 2000 and in 2007 they made $1.7 million. How much did you make last year?
No, he's not an elitist at all....
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Poulenc1 year, 2 months ago
Newb, what, pray tell, is your definition of "elitist?"
The one you give sounds like you're confusing that word, which means someone who, according to my Webster's, "favors rule or belief in an elite" with a (possible) designation of a group whose income, education, tastes, connections, etc., places them among the "highest" or "upper" members of a group.
The former definition implies judgement. The latter does not--unless you choose to impute same.
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Mdiar1 year, 2 months ago
I didn't have much of a problem with some of the statements that the Reverend made originally. I do have a problem with some of his more recent statements, one of which his source material even contradicted him on on CNN I believe (this one, to my knowledge, isn't being played in endless loops). I'm rather glad that the Senator denounced him for the more recent statements, I think the Reverend was unconsciously sabotaging the efforts of Obama. Or perhaps consciously, I'm not sure. Either way his statements mattered little to me from the beginning.
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cushi1 year, 2 months ago
Because, ONCE AGAIN FOR YOUR BENEFIT, HE IS AN INDEPENDENT THINKER! He only distanced himself from the man who was his pastor and baptized his children when HE FELT it was a just decision...simple as that.
As sure as I'm typing this, if he had followed right behind Oprah, some of you would be saying, "See? He's just Oprah's flunky and only does what she tells him to. He's her puppet and he can't think for himself."
It is so obvious that you would not respect any decisions the Senator makes, no matter when he makes them.
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unome21 year, 2 months ago
The problem Reverend Wright is having in America is that he speaks the truth. America has a long history of not acknowledgeing its own faults and often self-centered interactions in the world. Wheather its being honest about our genocide of the native Americans or the great wealth we created through the enslavement of Black Americans or the countless foreign governments we have overthrown, we are not without sin. Unfortunately we have been easily misled by our corporate mainstream media and only now are we coming to terms with the fact tht we were lied into war.
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Mutainia1 year, 2 months ago
Oprah left Wright's church. Probably smart enough to think, "THIS is ChrisTIANIty!?!?" And, she ended up becoming a New Ager who is probably a borderline Wiccan now.
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OldHickory1 year, 2 months ago
How about his association with Bill Ayers? What doesn't make much sense is how a supposedly intelligent man such as BO might not see how a relationship with Bill Ayers, a member of the radical Weather Underground, does in fact reflect on him and his values. Especially when Ayers response to his detestable acts is simply, "I feel we didn't do enough" or "I don't regret setting bombs". I wonder what OW has to say about this? She should stick to her book club or, better yet, just go away.
BO is a chameleon. He continues to change his tune based upon expediency. How many other anti-American relationships are in his closet?
Semper fi.
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