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    engineer1 year, 6 months ago

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    Some of his fellow Rangers say that before he died, Pat Tillman expressed his fear that if something happened to him, his death would be exploited by the military and used as propaganda.

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      engineer1 year, 6 months ago

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      It sounds like this administration

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      engineer1 year, 6 months ago

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      S P A M

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        Blackacereturn1 year, 6 months ago

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        I think they killed him, he realized that this was all BS and wanted out. Imagine the poster boy saying this war is bogus. There would be dissenting voices that could dwarf his out. After all he left millions on the table to go to fight the so call terrorist of 9/11. What if he threaten to expose them for the liars we all know them to be now? That would be the difference between a few billion and trillions.

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          crghss1 year, 6 months ago

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          If this was true don't you think his brother would have told us?

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            miklkit1 year, 6 months ago

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            You haven't read his brothers letter.

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          sumptuousdigs1 year, 6 months ago

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          Spam it was...and now it's gone!!

          Thank you too, Spaminator!

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          sumptuousdigs1 year, 6 months ago

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          Thank you engineer.

          Wasn't it a horse named Boxer, that was used, and then carted off to the glue factory, in the story, "Animal Farm"? Later Boxer became a poster boy for the 'cause'.

          The story allegedly was an allegorical account of the Marxist revolutions in the early 20th century, but doesn't the present stink of the same manure?

          Remember..."All animals are created equal".

          Later being ammended with..."Some animals are more equal than others"!

          Lies, and more lies...who cares? Have another beer, and change the channel. I think the "play-offs" are on.

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            rightfromwrong1 year, 6 months ago

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            My understanding was that Pat Tillman had been sent to Iraq after being in Afghanistan but told them that he didn't sign up to fight there. He said that he wasn't going to stay there and fight innocent people. He requested to be sent back to Afghanistan. Since he was still being used as a poster boy the administration saw this as a rebellion.He was used in life and his death. I am sure that his death was not a coincidence and that he was shot by not so friendly fire.This administration is evil and at the very least they were complicit in the attacks of 9/11. IT WAS AN INSIDE JOB!!!!!

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              djrevelky1 year, 6 months ago

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              That is repulsive. To say that our soldiers purposely killed another soldier.

              It's one thing to say that the Administration made him a "poster boy for the cause" by exploiting his death. It's something completely different to say that they had a soldier do it!

              Go back to your home on fantasy island.

              The fact that you think the government pulled off 9/11 shows your stupidity.

              Yes...Bush and Cheney single-handedly pulled off 9/11, the biggest conspiracy EVER, without a SINGLE leak but were unable to plant WMD's in Iraq after the invasion.

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                Dionys1 year, 6 months ago

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                " That is repulsive. To say that our soldiers purposely killed another soldier. "

                Is it any less repulsive to say that our soldiers purposely raped another soldier? Because one out of three women soldiers are raped by their 'brothers,' and that's only the reported rate.

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                  crghss1 year, 6 months ago

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                  Another lie. Where is this so called "reported rate".

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                    Dionys1 year, 6 months ago

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                    "The Department of Defense statistics are alarming - one in three women who join the US military will be sexually assaulted or raped by men in the military."

                    At the DOD web sites.

                    Or you can read one article that details the horror:

                    http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/042808A.shtml

                    Or where they coverup the real reasons women soldiers die of "dehydration":

                    http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/vie...

                    I'd bet the rate's much higher in Iraq. Or maybe it's lower since the GIs have so many Iraqi women to rape:

                    http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/vie...

                    Try researching facts before you bow down to dogma and call something a "lie."

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                      crghss1 year, 6 months ago

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                      Where did you dig this crap up. Not one reference to a creditable source. Referencing the same site three times doesn't make it three times as creditable.

                      So tell Dionys should we do like you and your buddies and punish the rape victims. Should we wipe and lash them, kill them like and your buddies do?

                      What else do you and your buddies do to rape victims? That is after you circumcise them at the age of 12 without pain medication. Wow, when you guys do it, you do it right.

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                        Dionys1 year, 6 months ago

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                        "So tell Dionys should we do like you and your buddies and punish the rape victims. Should we wipe and lash them, kill them like and your buddies do?"

                        I don't know anyone who I consider a friend who would engage in this type of action, including the many soldiers I count as my good friends. Can you say the same for the soldiers you support in Guantanamo? Or the solders who rape other soldiers who you're supporting by denying the truth?

                        Here's your military link:

                        http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/transcri...

                        Study regarding military rapes:

                        http://www.npr.org/documents/2007/oct/varapestu...

                        More "fun" by your definition:

                        http://womenandwar.wordpress.com/2007/04/20/rap...

                        "The United States has the highest rate of rape of any country that publishes such statistics; 13 times higher than Great Britain and 20 times higher than Japan. "

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                          Dionys1 year, 6 months ago

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                          http://www.defenselink.mil/news/May2004/d200405...

                          There's one from 2004. Keep in mind "rape" by your military brethren is a growth industry with more than a 40% growth since that time.

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                            crghss1 year, 6 months ago

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                            Yes rape happens every where. But I love the "publishes such statistics" part. Where is Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia statistics? Where is Malaysia, Indonesia and Pakistan statics. OH, they don't publish them. Wonder why?

                            More "fun"

                            You pervert. You think this is fun? Does it tell you this in your little book of peace. Is this why you think rape is "More "fun"". Your sicker then I thought.

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                        crghss1 year, 6 months ago

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                        "bow down to dogma"

                        Dogma? Me? Now your trying comedy. Aren't you the one praying to sharia law? Maybe you need to lookup the word dogma.

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                    rightfromwrong1 year, 6 months ago

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                    Open up you mind to the evil which exists in America!!!!!

                    You are obviously a lackey and wimp. Watch the films or are to ignorant of the facts. Those buildings were made to take planes and they would haven't have fallen the way they did without a lot of help.

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                      djrevelky1 year, 6 months ago

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                      Right right...keep on talking Rosey. Are you going to tell us that fire doesn't melt steel next? lol

                      ALL of your conspiracy theories have been debunked in Popular Mechanics and about everything else.

                      I find it hilarious that you call me a lackey when you are the sheep that believes anything you are told.

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                      crghss1 year, 6 months ago

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                      Say hi to tatoo for us.

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                      crghss1 year, 6 months ago

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                      This is an out and out lie. His unit was sent to Iraq did their tour of duty and then was sent to Afghanistan. Tillmans input has nothing to due with his units deployment. You are a liar.

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                        Dionys1 year, 6 months ago

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                        Just like that other "lie" you were caught telling about a "lie?"

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                          crghss1 year, 6 months ago

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                          Sorry but you must clarify. I can't keep up with the hate you spew.

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                            Dionys1 year, 6 months ago

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                            You're the one denying that women are being raped by their brethren in the military at the rate of one in three. That seems a lot more hateful than calling you out on your constant lies.

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                              crghss1 year, 6 months ago

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                              Name one lie I've told. Just one. Again WHERE is your 3 to 1 proof(reference your book peddling site again). Rape does unfortunately does happen. You should known you and your kind have to dress your women up in burqa's to prevent it. And that still doesn't work.

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                      sumptuousdigs1 year, 6 months ago

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                      rightfromwrong...As in most things, I believe the answers fall somewhere in the middle. Still, there are so many that maintain the belief that: "It can't happen here"!

                      Any fledgling student of history or human nature, would have to acknowledge the opposite, that not only can it...it has.

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                        djrevelky1 year, 6 months ago

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                        Yeah...you guys got it.

                        Every single soldier that has died was really killed by friendly fire because they wanted to vote Democrat...just like Keith Olberman said on air, Bush killed Tillman because he was going to vote for Kerry.

                        Since we are using our military to kill all of the dissenters, its amazing you haven't been drafted and killed by friendly fire yet.

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                        Charlson1 year, 6 months ago

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                        We'll probably never know the whole true and only snippets and embellished to the favor of those telling the tale. Sort of like Rashmon, it'll have many versions of the truth.

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                          sumptuousdigs1 year, 6 months ago

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                          djrevelky, I didn't read anything about our troops deliberately killing our own. Besides, that would be a "Company" job. Were there not CIA agents in the field? Are therer not now?

                          Our uberpatriots (CIA) make every soldier nervous. Ever read about the political (or party) officers in the Soviet or German Armies? Do you think we don't employ similar offices? Wake up and smell the cordite!

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                            SweetSoul1 year, 6 months ago

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                            This government has lied about WMD's, Anthrax, Jessica Lynch, and now Pat Tilman. I feel for his family. Here was a star football player who felt a duty to serve his (lying) country and they killed him. I once read, in covering up his death that his uniform was destroyed.

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                              djrevelky1 year, 6 months ago

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                              Of course, tell the world the truth o' enlightened liberals of America.

                              Just like Keith Olberman told his sheep, Bush killed Tillman because Tillman was going to vote for Kerry.

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                                hyperbola1 year, 6 months ago

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                                Your devotion to goosestepping might be admirable if it weren't so tragic.

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                                  djrevelky1 year, 6 months ago

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                                  Your devotion to ignorance is admirable, I'm sure you make Soros proud.

                                  I'm just repeating what you liberals say in small, simple to understand language. You all say that Bush had Tillman killed because he disagreed with him.

                                  And you sheep believe that nonsense.

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                                    DropkickaLib1 year, 6 months ago

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                                    Actually, you are the Jew-hater so you have a greater claim to being a Nazi.

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                                  crghss1 year, 6 months ago

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                                  What lies about Anthrax? What lies about Jessica Lynch?

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                                    miklkit1 year, 6 months ago

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                                    Here are some links to the anthrax hoax. It came from Fort Detrick. There are 4 suspects currently under investigation. That leaves out the 6 scientists who suddenly died right after it happened, one of whom was beaten to death with a baseball bat while inside the laboratory.

                                    http://www.ph.ucla.edu/epi/Bioter/detect/antdet...

                                    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,342852,00.html

                                    http://www.globalcomplexity.org/Deathbyassociat...

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                                      crghss1 year, 6 months ago

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                                      Again, WHAT lie. Who was lying about what?

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                                      Will13131 year, 6 months ago

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                                      if you have to ask either of those questions.. you are not informed enough to be posting anything .. .. you should be catching up on world events..

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                                    rightfromwrong1 year, 6 months ago

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                                    9/11 was an inside job!!!!! If you watch 911 Mysteries and Loose change you will see that is was an inside job. How does a building fall in 10 seconds that is reinforced by steel in the middle? In 10 seconds and into the basement? Obviously the concrete pillars were blown out as witnesses have said. Oh and by the way a Jewish guy just happen to have a clause concerning a "terrorist attack "put into his insurance 6 months before and made a cool $2,000,000,000.

                                    Another coincidence?????? Call me an anti-semitic but in reality I am a "truth sayer" not blinded by prejudice.

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                                      walden31 year, 6 months ago

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                                      Assuming everything you say is true, what does the fact that the owner is Jewish have to do with anything?

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                                        djrevelky1 year, 6 months ago

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                                        Walden3,

                                        Learn your liberal friends conspiracy theories...they all have something to do with those eveel Jews.

                                        For example, there is no name supplied in any of the conspiracy theories but there is always "some jewish guy" and he makes tons of money from it. So we have "some jewish guy" who made $2 billion from the WTC attack but his name is unknown.

                                        Hmm...you would think that if "some jewish guy" made $2 billion in a single day someone would know his name...like an insurance company maybe?

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                                          Mdiar1 year, 6 months ago

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                                          Sometimes names are supplied, usually a Jewish banker. I find it quite disgusting, I don't mind the anti-Zionists, but those conspiracy theories seem way to close to what Hitler was saying. You know the whole "Jewish bankers controlling the world, that is why we have no money!" sort of thing can be all to easy to become a cry during a depression...

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                                        crghss1 year, 6 months ago

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                                        "concrete pillars were blown out as witnesses have said."

                                        A lie.

                                        "Obviously the concrete pillars"

                                        There where no "concrete pillars". More stupidity.

                                        "made a cool $2,000,000,000"

                                        Even if this where true. Which I doubt how do you lose an object generating billions in income and make money?

                                        No education. Financial anyways.

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                                        sumptuousdigs1 year, 6 months ago

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                                        KvilleTX, Pat Tillman's troubles are over, while our's are compounded daily. Killing more innocent people will not bring him back. Denying the truth will only insure more deaths.

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                                          Mutainia1 year, 6 months ago

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                                          I'm amazed that an atheist, like Tilman, would have the nards fight in ANY war, when they feel that THIS life is the only one they will be living. Of course, the Soviets were atheists, and, they invaded Afghanistan, to name just a few.

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                                            DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year, 6 months ago

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                                            huh?

                                            I'm an atheist and I has nards

                                            one....two....

                                            yep

                                            all soldiers present and accounted for

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                                            there's more than a couple 'atheist outlooks'

                                            one is that if this is the only life we get its extra precious

                                            another is it's just a lot of sound and fury signifying nothing

                                            I'm in the second clan, but there's plenty in the first

                                            and sometimes atheists don't really want it to signify nothing, and want to give it meaning thru acts like signing up for the military in 'war' time

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                                              Dionys1 year, 6 months ago

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                                              Mutainia's insane. Don't expect logic of any kind.

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                                                crghss1 year, 6 months ago

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                                                Then you two should get along peachie!

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                                                  Dionys1 year, 6 months ago

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                                                  What a sad little boy you are, chasing me all around making pointless comments backed up by nothing more than your vitriol. Doesn't your mommy make you turn off the computer for dinner?

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                                                    crghss1 year, 6 months ago

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                                                    So your tired of me pointing your spewing of the hate. This is the part I love. Where you nuscapers furiously typing away telling each other how wonderful and self important each other is. Then I came along and rebuke your obvious lies, slap down venomous hate and expose your insignificant little lives for the uselessness they really are. Why do I find fun in this?

                                                    But you have to come up with better material. This really is too easy. That takes all the fun out of it. Come on, you can do better, can't you?

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                                                      Mutainia1 year, 6 months ago

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                                                      Dionys is desperate to descredit what people like me say because, thanks to the internet, we've got the scriptural proof, from the Quran itself, which shows that the god he bows down to five times a day, Allah, is, in actuality... Satan.

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