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Posted By Aidenag 1 year, 8 months ago in News

Almost 4,000 people have died and another 3,000 remain missing in Myanmar as a result of this weekend's devastating cyclone, state media reported Monday. The soaring death toll was announced as the reclusive southeast Asian country's ruling military junta issued a rare appeal for international assistance.

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    Georgia501 year, 8 months ago

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    Wow. A single storm and the death toll is equal to US casualties in Iraq.

    What's a war protestor to do, reality not being an option?

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      Aidenag1 year, 8 months ago

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      Yeah, i guess that makes 4,000 dead American soldiers no big deal right? since a single storm was able to kill just as many people... Heck, by that logic, we can discount the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki too or the D-day invasion, since afterall, the Boxing Day Tsunami killed just as many people....

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        Georgia501 year, 8 months ago

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        I'm all about context. Speaking of which, it was more important for Monica to do Clinton than it was for Clinton to lift a finger for 800,000 Rwandans. In fact, it was ok for Clinton to watch Monica do herself with a cigar while Arafat waited before the world...standing at a microphone alone for 20 minutes. At least, that's what I derive from 90s liberal apologia on behalf of Slick.

        But those 4,000 troops really just somehow got to you, huh? Just yanking your heartstrings, are they? Wow. Bleeding heart liberals bleeding for the troops. (We are certain it has nothing to do with which party supplied the current CIC...wind, nod.)

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          slyboy21 year, 8 months ago

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          Careful. A storm like this with so many casualties is something nobody can control (though we try out best in prediction and aid). The war on the other hand is something we do have control over.

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            hamy1 year, 8 months ago

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            Wow. How wonderfully cooperative you must be to bring your party politics and finger waving attitude into a huge tragedy for another country. Why aren't we being as supportive of them as they were for us? Because the CIC which you seem so proud of doesn't care about anyone who doesn't turn a profit.

            But if you want to be that way, Bush has killed more Americans than the terrorists he is supposedly fighting did on 9-11.

            If you can still support Bush, your opinion is moot anyway.

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              slate1 year, 8 months ago

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              It seems that I saw the first lady talking about the aid we are already sending. Should we not support the good things any president does?

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          GregD1 year, 8 months ago

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          So, just so I'm clear, you're comparing 4000 dead from a WAR to 4000 dead from a STORM? And that we should continue to justify WAR (and the deaths that occur) because STORMS will even them out? Is that what you're really saying?

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            Beau78901 year, 8 months ago

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            Not only is he saying that, but he's calling it context.

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              Georgia501 year, 8 months ago

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              ...plus, I'm saying war opponents, at least those of the Durbin/Sheehan fruitcake variety, are incapable of considering context.

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                Beau78901 year, 8 months ago

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                The Bush administration's inability to consider context when invading Iraq and deposing Saddam is what led to the "unforeseen" consequences of unfriendly insurgents flooding the country, and the creation of the imbalance of power that has resulted in the quagmire in which we're enmeshed there.

                Context involves consideration of other factors, like regional power structures, feuding factions, and exports on which we depend (oil), that will affect the consequences of an action. Comparing two entirely unrelated situations is called juxtaposition; the case you described could also be termed a non sequitur.

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                  Georgia501 year, 8 months ago

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                  You are clearly not of the fruitcake variety, and you raise valid points. Bush should have acted decisively to address the insurgency. Instead he vowed to fight the most humanitarian war ever. That was a recipe for disaster.

                  Nevertheless, to track every single death and every single milestone casuality is the nonsequitor (because casualties are the given in any conflict). That is my point, and it does not include such criticism of the war that you offer above.

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                    Beau78901 year, 8 months ago

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                    Thanks for your compliment, and for not calling me a fruitcake. But you were the one who brought up the number of casualties in Iraq in this thread--and I don't believe Dick Durbin or Nancy Sheehan has brought up the number of deaths in relation to the cyclone in Myanmar, either.

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            Dionys1 year, 8 months ago

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            "Wow. A single storm and the death toll is equal to US casualties in Iraq.

            What's a war protestor to do, reality not being an option?"

            Wow. A single storm and the death toll surpasses the number of people killed in 9/11. Maybe now we should invade Iran to go after God?

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            Aidenag1 year, 8 months ago

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            Cnn is now reporting that the Junta has said that up to 10,000 may be dead.

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              joeblowe1 year, 8 months ago

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              Anybody taking odds that THIS mess will be cleaned up before the Katrina mess is gone? Or that SOMEHOW more U.S. dollars will end up in aid to Myanmar than ended up in New Orleans? Awww, come on - I'll give you 2 to 3 odds... {;>D)=

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                Fedquip1 year, 8 months ago

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                Later Reports have this at 10,000.

                http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7384041...

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                  berk21561 year, 8 months ago

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                  I hope it's not same as tsunami's,too many people die because

                  lack warning system about this storm.

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                    nostalgia1 year, 8 months ago

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                    "Although they were aware of the threat, Burma's state-run media failed to issue a timely warning to citizens in the storm's path," Laira Bush said in an unusual appearance at the White House briefing room podium.

                    "It's troubling that many of the Burmese people learned of this impending disaster only when foreign outlets, such as Radio Free Asia and Voice of America, sounded the alarm," she said, using Myanmar's former name.

                    http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5iWphuVAXdBM...

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                    Wolfie20071 year, 8 months ago

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                    After all the political jabs and nasty remarks, I hope you folks here on Propeller will remember the people of Burma/Myanmar in your prayers, at least, those of you who pray. What a terrible storm, these good people don't deserve this especially after having such a tyrannical government. Imagine not warning the people in your own country of such an impending disaster. Criminal!

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                      cushi1 year, 8 months ago

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                      Wolfie! We actually agree on something!! Way to go.

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                      nostalgia1 year, 8 months ago

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                      I just heard on the news that the government of Myanmar is refusing to allow international aid agencies into the country

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                        crghss1 year, 8 months ago

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                        Did you expect anything else?

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                          nostalgia1 year, 8 months ago

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                          Np! Especially when the article notes "Myanmar's junta plans to proceed with a referendum on the country's constitution on May 10"

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                            nostalgia1 year, 8 months ago

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                            No! Especially when the article notes "Myanmar's junta plans to proceed with a referendum on the country's constitution on May 10"

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                          cushi1 year, 8 months ago

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                          This is one of the saddest chapters in human history! My heart goes out to the families in Myanmar who have lost loved ones and possessions. Lord, have mercy! I truly believe we are in the pre-tribulation period.

                          It's praying time, people.

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                            Saze6201 year, 8 months ago

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                            I was once a soldier ! I was in Iraq at the begining & Saw a that death toll there begin & knew those men & women i must say to compare the two jus shows me what kind of idiotic people are still here in the states & im damn proud to say i served with them & didnt stay home with you people who do nothing when you are needed most !!!! So next time choose a better comparison & show some respect for the individuals who are laying their lives on the line everyday to help prevent another 9/11 Sgt

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