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Bkumm1 year, 6 months ago
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Tell that to the supply-siders sending us these "stimulus" checks and cutting taxes on the "wealthy" (quotes because I'm not sure we can agree on the definition of wealthy).
This is more of the same. People have seen that if they cry about things enough the govt will come up with a pacifier of some kind, usually cash. The country be damned, what happens NOW to ME is what's important, not what will be better for ME LATER.
Idiots.
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UnusualSuspect1 year, 6 months ago
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Bkumm1 year, 6 months ago
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Of course it is. It's more of the same garbage we're getting all the time from the idiots we keep electing. I'm not sure who is more to blame the idiots we keep electing or the idiots that do the electing and then bitch about who they elected.
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djrevelky1 year, 6 months ago
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I think the problem is that both parties are firmly in the Oil Companies AND Middle Eastern oil tsars pockets.
All we can expect to see from Congress is the "Drag, Nag, and Bag." They drag oil company executives or foreign officials in front of them. They nag at them for a few hours to put on a good show for the tax payers. Then they bag their campaign donations.
Clinton has nearly $200,000 in big oil money this election, Obama around $170,000 and McCain $220,000 plus. If you think anyone of these 3 are going to fix the problem you are badly mistaken.
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Bkumm1 year, 6 months ago
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I think that's a symptom of the disease not the disease itself. We've known about peak oil for over fifty years now, but the American consumer hasn't had to really worry about it because energy was cheap due to many different economic factors. That is no longer the case.
We need to address the problem directly by finding a way to eliminate our dependence on oil. All fossil fuels should go that way eventually, but we need to focus on oil RIGHT NOW. Not tomorrow, not five years from now, RIGHT NOW.
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mesodude1 year, 6 months ago
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The problem is that our ever-churning war machine burns through 60% of the world's oil and those who love to see us invade, bomb, shoot up, tear down and rebuild stuff over and over again are 100% to blame--and both parties AREN'T equally to blame for that.
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flyonthewallzz1 year, 6 months ago
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"The US military is the biggest purchaser of oil in the world."
http://www.energybulletin.net/13199.html
HMM Supply and Demand?
Combined with the SPR fill that just keeps going, it seems to explain why: better than the develoment in China and India.
I still would like to know where the 60% came from.
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mesodude1 year, 6 months ago
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Accck...Of course that's ridiculous. Thanks for giving me an opportunity to correct this. I meant to say that the military consumes 60% of *US* oil. The US is 5% of the population and we consume 25% of the world's oil. The war department is the world's single largest purchaser and consumer of oil. So, in short, the difference between my error and what we really spend is the difference between thoroughly revolting and merely sickening. ;-P
http://www.newlaunches.com/archives/top_5_facts...
http://nowarnowarming.org/article.php?id=94l
http://www.williambowles.info/venezuela/2006/02...
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flyonthewallzz1 year, 6 months ago
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With respect sir:
If my B.S. meter had not red lined, I would not have learned that DOD is the largest consumer of oil in the world.
It leaves no doubt in my mind that when I cringe when the dashboard beeps and the low fuel lights up, that the war is reaching into my pocket.
This is real.
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Teech1 year, 6 months ago
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What a stupid idea. Just what one would expect from pimps, panderers, and politicians. Create a worse problem from a bad one.
Try balancing the federal budget and watching the dollar increase in value.
Try not flushing a trillion or so down the Iraq toilet.
Naaahhhhh. No profit in that nonsense. Keep subsidizing the super rich and screwing the working stiffs.
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mesodude1 year, 6 months ago
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But I don't remember hearing anyone on the right complain that those tax rebate checks Bush gave Americans after 9/11 (right after telling Americans don't-worry-go-shopping) or the GOP conceived $50 gas rebate cards from two years ago were pandering. I wonder why...
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Blackacereturn1 year, 6 months ago
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This is not a good idea, it's intent is to appease and that's it. What will happen here is they will give us a 10c brake at the pumps and hike the toles 50c or something else. Most states are in so much debt they cannot afford to lose this money, it's not sound decision making. It's like the tax cut, this will only benefit the rich because they don't have to lower the price they still get to bilk us, and i bet they will raise the price to take away the fake savings. What shocks me the most is that the Welfare detractors are all for this, what a bunch of hypocrites...this will only make things worse...if you are in doubt check out the tax cut and the state of our nation!
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Blackacereturn1 year, 6 months ago
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This is why I am voting for Obama...he was the only one to call this what it is. It shows me that this guy is for real. He said it was a stupid idea and an 8 grader can see that it is. His thinking of actually finding a way to lower the cost of gas makes more sense to me!To me this is another bush like move it's so stupid it laughable!
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nostalgia1 year, 6 months ago
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May 4th and here is the link to the transcript
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24445166/
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Blackacereturn1 year, 6 months ago
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Nostalgia - you need to re-watch that clip his $1000.00 you talk about is a second phase of the bush economic stimulus package. What he is saying is give the people some real relied than some symbolic BS like this. I don't know about you but i am for that!
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nostalgia1 year, 6 months ago
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It's on page 3 of the transcript
RUSSERT: One issue that has really defined the two campaigns here in Indiana is this debate over gasoline
OBAMA: Right.
RUSSERT: ...the price of it and whether there should be a tax holiday
OBAMA: Right
RUSSERT: ...from the federal taxes. This is Hillary Clinton's ad talking about you. Let's watch
RUSSERT: Why are you against giving taxpayers in Indiana, North Carolina, a relief from federal gasoline tax this summer?
OBAMA: You're right, Tim, this defines, I think, the difference between myself and Senator Clinton. This gas tax, which was first proposed by John McCain and then quickly adopted by Senator Clinton, is a classic Washington gimmick ...nd, by the way, I have some experience on this because in Illinois we tried this when I was in the state legislature, and that's exactly what happened. The oil companies, the retailers were the ones who ended up benefiting
RUSSERT: You voted for it, too.
OBAMA: I did. Exactly. And that
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nostalgia1 year, 6 months ago
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RUSSERT: When gas was only $2 a gallon
OBAMA: And, and that's my point. I voted for it, and then six months later we took a look, and consumers had not benefited at all, but we had lost revenue.
Obama's $1000 idea comes in his next response
OBAMA: And what I've said is, look, people do need serious relief. They are, are getting hammered. I mean, people who--can't go on job searches because they can't fill up their gas tank. And so what I've said is, let's accelerate a--the second half of a tax stimulus proposal that I had put forward that would put, immediately, hundreds of dollars into people's pockets to get through the summer; let's pass a permanent middle-class tax cut, $1,000 per family, to offset the payroll tax to deal not just with rising costs of gas, but also rising costs of food, rising costs of prescription drugs
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nostalgia1 year, 6 months ago
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Not a Bush stimulus package - an idea Obama put forward
I have found no legislation that offers this, have you??
"permanent middle-class tax cut, $1,000 per family, to offset the payroll tax"
No I'm not for this. How can you offer a tax cut to offset payroll taxes when SS is already in trouble??
"most importantly, let's invest in alternative fuels, raising fuel efficiency standards on cars, and let's get serious about reducing consumption of oil, which is the only way that, over the long term, we're going to reduce, we're going to reduce gas prices."
"I don't want, 20 years from now, to have a bunch of politicians proposing a suspension of the gas tax holiday when gas is $8 or $10 a gallon because we failed to act now."
Alternatives & CAFE standards won't let us avoid $8-$10 gas. Anything we save with those measures will be consumed by India & China.
"serious about reducing consumption of oil" That's the key but HOW??? He has no plan
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