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    wtagg1 year, 7 months ago

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    Ironically, what you are describing is akin to a luxury tax, something that most republicans are not too hot on.

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      DropkickaLib1 year, 7 months ago

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      I know that many Libertarians favor consumption-based taxes. I tend to have some Libertarian ideas. Many years of state government work experience taught me how regressive much of the funding on which state governments rely is.

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        wtagg1 year, 7 months ago

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        I'm certainly not debating the issue. If it were up to me it would be a flat tax or consumption tax. That way if a billionaire wants to buy a yacht, he pays tax. There are no deductions to hide income behind. If someone living at the poverty line wants to buy a wii system, they pay a tax. They are free to make a decision that may not in their best interest financially, but they must pay the tax as well. It simplifies many things.

        There is the debate of what should be exempt, like food, which I probably could support. My fear is that the definition of food may change to determine if it should be taxed or not.

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          markmawn21 year, 7 months ago

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          Yeah, like ketchup and certain menu items at jack and the box.

          GMO Potatoes served in fast food chains are classified as pesticides.

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          reasonable11 year, 7 months ago

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          www.fairtax.com!!!!!!!!!

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          Dionys1 year, 7 months ago

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          Consumption based taxes are great. We should also heavily tax those who buy large SUVs and Trucks but don't use them for construction.

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            nostalgia1 year, 7 months ago

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            How do we tax hybrids or the electric, natural gas and hydrogen fueled vehicles. They will be using the highways also

            If the problem with road/bridge repair is bad now, it will only get worse as the Feds and states see gas tax revenues fall

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              flyonthewallzz1 year, 7 months ago

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              The reason diesel is taxed at a higher rate than gasoline is because generally diesel trucks are heavier and put more wear and tear on the infrastructure.

              I know it is not fair to the guy that buys a 60 mpg diesel VW, but it is simpler.

              Alternative fuel vehicles tend to be light weight. Combined with the value of moving in that direction I like the K.I.S.S. (keep it simple silly) principle.

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                nostalgia1 year, 7 months ago

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                I realize that the diesel trucks pay more.

                I was only talking about private cars/trucks

                But I can guarantee you that as more hybrids etc are on the road and gas tax revenues fall, the politicians will move away from the gas tax

                I wouldn't be surprised to see them try and tax according to the miles driven or a combination of miles driven and weight.

                That would probably be the fair solution

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                  flyonthewallzz1 year, 7 months ago

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                  What can I say? I am a tree hugging Moonbat.

                  If revenues fall to the point where infrastructure can not be maintained, then other ways will have to be looked at.

                  For now I see as it as an effective tax incentive to wean our dependence on foreign oil.

                  I wonder what would happen the day the gas tax relief ends?

                  I imagine there will be long lines at the stations of folks topping off the tank before the prices go up again.

                  I remember running out of gas with an odd numbered plate. It sucked.

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                    nostalgia1 year, 7 months ago

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                    We are already in trouble with the Federal Highway Trust Fund

                    They spent every dime in the last transportation bill including all of the pork

                    The politicians just can't help themselves

                    But we have to be realistic - we are NOT going to be able to stop importing oil for decades

                    In the mean time it is the low income and many in the middle class who are struggling.

                    When the price of gas AND food increases so dramatically, they are the ones who get hit the hardest and there is no end in sight for them

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                      Dionys1 year, 7 months ago

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                      "But we have to be realistic - we are NOT going to be able to stop importing oil for decades "

                      We also have to be realistic that we can no longer be dependent on oil and that within decades (or much sooner) we should have alternatives in place. Which means investing actual money into alternatives. Not sinking more money into already failing systems.

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                        nostalgia1 year, 7 months ago

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                        That's very true

                        But the emphsis on alternative fuels and CAFE standards aren't going to get us there

                        The auto industry is an easy target for politicians but private cars & trucks only account for ~20% of our oil consumption - that is according to a group of economists, energy experts etc It was a discussion I watched several weeks ago on TV

                        Washington needs to look at where we are using the most energy if we ever expect to be oil independent - electricity generation

                        The World Factbook

                        Electricity - production: 4.062 trillion kWh (2005)

                        Electricity - production by source: fossil fuel: 71.4%

                        hydro: 5.6%

                        nuclear: 20.7%

                        other: 2.3% (2001)

                        https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-wo...

                        This should be a huge target for DC. Nuclear and coal needs to be in the mix

                        Obama on Meet the Press: Nuclear Yes. BUT...

                        Coal Yes BUT...

                        Obama addresed this on a question about climate change. Page 4 of the Meet the Press transcript

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                markmawn21 year, 7 months ago

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                One word. Turnpikes. Toss in 50 cents everytime you use a busy thoroughfare and it generates a ***tload of revenue in a few short months.

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                  nostalgia1 year, 7 months ago

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                  Toll roads are getting more numerous here

                  In fact, one toll tag allows you to drive through the toll gates and the fee is deducted from the money in your toll tag account

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                    markmawn21 year, 7 months ago

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                    Are you in Washington? The Tacoma Narrows Bridge works that way.

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