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UnusualSuspect1 year, 7 months ago
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Why, Drop...you saying all Libs don't take personal responsibility for their lives and fates? My...talk about generalizing...
I might be a liberal Democrat, but I was raised with middle class ethics, and taught to always work hard and take responsibility for my thoughts and actions. I'm sure many other liberals were, too.
But how many conservatives will be happy and smiling after Obama wins on November 5?
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DropkickaLib1 year, 7 months ago
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UnusualSuspect1 year, 7 months ago
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Ah, but my one sister (the lone Republican in the family) says she and a few of her Republican friends are tired of what's happened the last 8 years (she did vote for Bush in 2000, but passed in '04) and says they're going for a Democrat, altho she didn't indicate which one she favors...yet.
So maybe that will balance out the other factor...
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Endoscopy1 year, 7 months ago
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No, it means that we think only those who really need help should get it and everybody else should take care of their problems. Liberals want to solve every bodies problem for them so they stay up nights worrying how to help everybody.
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Teagen1 year, 7 months ago
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Unusual, I agree with your sister in several areas. I'm not fond of President Bush. Not because I'm currently based in Qatar or that we're at war but that he's not a conservative. He's like his father, closet liberals. As for McCain, he's the strongest Democrat running, when it comes to military and defense.
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mesodude1 year, 7 months ago
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Frankly, I'm shocked to find out that cons know that anything other than a "far left" liberal even exists. And what makes you think anyone is left "out in the cold"? Because right wingers tend to be single issue voters? Maybe you should stop generalizing...
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injest1 year, 7 months ago
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"Ah, but my one sister (the lone Republican in the family) says she and a few of her Republican friends are tired of what's happened the last 8 years (she did vote for Bush in 2000, but passed in '04) and says they're going for a Democrat,"
Ever consider that your sister is telling you this just to keep peace in the family?
Are you planning on looking over her shoulder in the voting both? If not then how would you really know?
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mesodude1 year, 7 months ago
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"Ever consider that your sister is telling you this just to keep peace in the family?"
--What's scary about your post is that you probably have no clue as to how desperate and delusional you appear to be. What parts of "28% approval rating" and "least popular President in modern history" don't you understand? Bush is a colossal failure and even though Congress is less popular than he is, Democrats are still preferred over Republicans to lead our country. Face reality for once.
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donald511 year, 7 months ago
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Drop, everytime 82% of Americans stand up and say something now that Dumya has turned the country the wrong way - and you call it liberal noninvolvement! Its you acquiescent repugs/eva... who allowed 800 years of accepted western law be thrown out, the Constitution violated by eavesdroping, torture and preemptive war in violation of Geneva... the list is too long of your loss of real Amercan values!
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Teagen1 year, 7 months ago
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Don, where has the president really turned us the wrong way? The war here is going well. Locals are standing with us to push the terrorists and insurgents out of their communities. In Afghanistan, there is progress being made daily. Back home there are problems but most of that has been caused by laws not being enforced. The "housing" crisis was caused by people taking out loans on homes they couldn't possibly pay for. When you lie on the application and the banks failed to properly follow up, it's still not my problem. Banks have failed before and I'm sure they'll fail again. As to jobs, my new husband has had problems finding qualified people for their plants in Wisconsin and the new plant in Ohio. They're actually paying full wages for people to attend classes at the technical colleges.
As to American values, even though Bush is a liberal, I trust him more than I do comrades Clinton or Obama.
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flyonthewallzz1 year, 7 months ago
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I have read your last sentence at least 10 times, I have to admit I do not understand it.
This may sound strange, but you have been in my thoughts.
Your words and those of that little monkey beneath me have at times tempered my knee-jerk Liberal response.
This may be another opaque comment.
Please take it in a good way.
And by the way I usually disagree with both of you, but with respect.
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mesodude1 year, 7 months ago
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Don, where has the president really turned us the wrong way?
--Bush and the GOP brought you the largest government and debt in history and the scorn of most of the international community (so much for spreading democracy), ground our military down to the point we're begging our allies for help in Afghanistan and felons for help to fight in Iraq and you ask where he "really turned us the wrong way"? OMFG It's like cons live in a parallel universe. By the way, it's nice that you think the war is going "well." How do the Iraqis who weren't being blown to bits on a daily basis before we decided to illegally invade their country feel about the progress?
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dissent1 year, 7 months ago
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hey dimbulb, it WAS illegal, it STILL IS illegal and it will ALWAYS BE illegal. ESPECIALLY according to the UN. google hans blix, kofi annan, security council, etc, etc. and WHAT made it all the MORE illegal is that the reason bush, cheney, rice, rumsfeld, powell and the rest of the gang of criminals gave for it proved to be A BIG FAT LIE!! NO WMDS. NO WMDS. NO WMDS. NO WMDS. got that? NO.... W.... M.... D.... S.
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dissent1 year, 7 months ago
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btw, i didn't know the senate called the shots on what happens in this world. so what does that make the un? a rubber stamp? well then, they refused to rubber stamp the iraq war. kind of makes it ILLEGAL, huh? looks like they were right not to too.
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mesodude1 year, 7 months ago
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What I love is how cons consider our government a monarchy one moment and then all about consensus and group decision making the next. When you want Bush to obfuscate the law, we hear "the buck stops here" and he's "the decider." When something in his administration goes horribly wrong (as has happened on numerous occasions), lo and behold, the bucks start getting passed with gusto. Bill Clinton balanced the budget (but we're quickly reminded that he was "forced" to do it by a Republican Congress). On second thought...maybe Bill Clinton left Bush with a recession (and suddenly any and all references to Congress are left out of the discussion). Cons are some truly acrobatic flip-floppers.
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Wolfie20071 year, 7 months ago
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I will be smiling because you and I both know that Obama can not win the Presidency. Get real the votes will not be there for him. Obama must have white males to vote for him enmass and that won't happen. You can call it racist bigotry but it won't change the fact that he can't be elected.
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UnusualSuspect1 year, 7 months ago
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Ah, wolfie..
To see you in person and wager a bet with you...I'd savor that...LOL...
You, DropKick, AsMuchSpinAsAnyoneElseDave, saint, and a few others will get a special e-mail from me for a full week after Obama wins...just so you know...be prepared for it...
It won't be gloating, of course...just a simple friendly told-you-so...LOL...
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mesodude1 year, 7 months ago
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"Get real the votes will not be there for him. Obama must have white males to vote for him enmass and that won't happen."
--That's really strange because depending on the thread I'm in, cons think racism is or isn't a problem in America. I wish wingjobs would stop flip-flopping like McCain (you vote for someone who, less than a year ago you swore to high heaven you couldn't trust in a million years--talk about lying, party-loyal neocon whack jobs). You're making sane people dizzy with your constant lies and inconsistencies.
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dissent1 year, 7 months ago
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" --That's really strange because depending on the thread I'm in, cons think racism is or isn't a problem in America."
a lot say it's not a problem coz they don't want to talk about it. like the mom who knows dad's molesting the kids but pretends it's not happening and drinks instead
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injest1 year, 7 months ago
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"Why, Drop...you saying all Libs don't take personal responsibility for their lives and fates? My...talk about generalizing.."
"talk about generalizing" Ya mean like small town folks "get bitter" after which "they cling to guns or religion, or antipathy to people who aren't like them, or anti-immigrant sentiment, or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."
Why support one "generalizing" and not the other?
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