Hagee and Parsley: Charlatans. And they know it. »
Posted By populist 1 year, 1 month ago in NewsThis is what the good people of America are up against. There is not an insignificant group of madmen enabling the chief madman and his cohorts. Ignorance is a terminal blessing for them. They won't be influenced by facts. They are proud that they listen only to Limbaugh "to get the truth".
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Locky121 year, 1 month ago
Obama is TIED to his pastor.
He said so in his landmark Martin Luther Kingesque speech in Philadelphia. Because it was ok as long as Wright was anti-American and anti-white.
But once the pastor went anti-Obama, that's when Obama dumped him after 20 years. What a phony!
It is the millstone around Obama's neck and why he can't possibly win in Nov.
Hagee and Parsley's relationships pale in comparison. They are too loose to be tied to McCain.
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mntnman4441 year, 1 month ago
And McLame is married to Hagee and won't be excused until he "divorces" Hagee like Obama did with Wright.
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quackpot1 year, 1 month ago
Your continual attempts to re-write history are quite tiresome, Locky.
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Lurch1 year, 1 month ago
> Obama is TIED to his pastor.
Only in your mind Locky.
He dumped Wright a long time ago.
Now, the question is, what on earth and in heaven is up with the 30 year plus relationship between the Republican Party and Rev. Moon, you know, the modern day Messiah.
Why has the Republican Party been hiding their relationship with the new Messiah, since as the Rev Moon preaches, the old one (Jesus) failed? Why keep such glory and joy a secret??
Share Republicans, share with us!!
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Dionys1 year, 1 month ago
"Hagee and Parsley's relationships pale in comparison. They are too loose to be tied to McCain."
Hagee has endorsed McLame (over Huckabee - the biggest nut who's willing to voice his Christian nuttyness). McLame has said recently (despite all the scary truths about Hagee coming out recently) that he is glad to have Hagee's support.
Not too hard a relationship to figure out. The ties are pretty obvious.
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CHAM1 year, 1 month ago
The point is that Parsley and Hagee call for the destruction of lives and futures. They could care less how many innocent people die.
When did Wright preach this philosophy?
I have watched all three of the subjects on TV and I don't mean just the snippets that Hannity or the other McCain pundits put on. My conclusion was that of the three, two promote evil deeds, and one complains about past treatment.
For me I believe that Parsley and Hagee are dangerous people and Wright is only an irritation.
Tremenmdous difference there.
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BravoSierra1 year, 1 month ago
All three, Wright, Hagee and Parsley have all the earmarkings of anti-social con-artists in the vein of Elmer Gantry.
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Georgia501 year, 1 month ago
If Parsely and Hagee are dangerous, what's up with all the gang violence in Wright's hometown of Chicago?
Ya know, if you cannot connect Parsley and Hagee to violence, and all you have is your deliberate distortion of their words, perhaps silence might work better for ya.
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Lurch1 year, 1 month ago
> And McCain, he's a Baptist when he's in South Carolina and an Episcopalean when he's in Michigan...
and he`s a Moonie when he`s in Korea.
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CHAM1 year, 1 month ago
Spadecaller, you are right and I think it has pulled the American people into actions that no christian would put up with.
Why then do they do they set back and do nothing?
Why are moral and principled people raising a voice against preachers like Parsley and Hagee?
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Dionys1 year, 1 month ago
"Why are moral and principled people raising a voice against preachers like Parsley and Hagee? "
I think you meant why "aren't" they. So I will say that people do raise their voices against dangerous, hateful people like this. Unfortunately that's not what "sells newspapers" (metaphorically) in our media.
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CHAM1 year, 1 month ago
Spadecaller, I need to change a word in the last comment. I meant to say in the last sentence "Why aren't .....
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CHAM1 year, 1 month ago
not2needy
What surprises me is that the Rush request for Republicans to vote in the Democratic primary has yet to be challenged as voting inteference or maybe disruption of voting laws. I guess its not against the law, but its pretty bad when the opposition feels so vulnerable that they seek to get to choose who they run against. It ought to be illegal.
On the topic, there is a rising concern by church organizations that they have become tools for the candidates, especially from the right.
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Mutainia1 year, 1 month ago
I've heard the preachings of Hagee, but, I've never heard of Parsley, unless we're talking herbs. I like Hagee, from what I've heard of preach, AND, I've heard him preach. I like how he sticks up for the teeny, weeny, state that gave back even MORE territory for peace, but, got missiles and rockets fired at it FROM that very territory it gave back in the hopes of achieving peace.
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BravoSierra1 year, 1 month ago
The Israelis are arrogant, ungrateful A$$H0!$ who only have a state because the US and Brits paid them to have one and be our guard dogs at the mouth of the Suez; and, because the Palestinians couldn't get their $h!t together to do the job when the British offered it to them first; pulling out of the Palestinian mandate because it was clear the other Middle Eastern tribes weren't going to let the state of Palestine exist. The Brits, being ever pragmatic strategists were grateful that the Israelis could get organized enough to be effective terrorists and capable of creating a state. But it wouldn't have happened with out billions of US dollars and the Brits giving Israel the plans for the atomic bomb. They are clever, competent A$$h0!s but they are still A$$d$. Go work with them awhile and you'll find out.
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CHAM1 year, 1 month ago
Mutainia
Parsley preaches that the United States was created to destroy Islam. The Crusades were originally meant to rid the Holy Land of the "Non-Christians". Not being Christians,nor Hebrews, the indeginous people of what is now Israel didn't know for what reason the Christians invaded them. Hagee preaches the divine right of the Jews. His message is that God promised that land to Israel. Again the people living there before 1947 not being Christians, take issue with that position.
I guess it all started around 1880. Russia was expelling the Jews from their country ( The Pogroms)and the people of Palestine ( the Arabs )told those expelled Jews to come and live with them since their ancestors once lived there. They could live together in peace the Arabs promised. By 1920 there were enough Jews in Palestine to begin to challenge the Arabs. In 1947 the Arabs were not allowed to vote on whether they wanted an Irsaeli Government, or not.
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DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year, 1 month ago
''I like how he sticks up for the teeny, weeny, state''
as Ron Paul said, that teeny weeny state has about 300 nukes while their neighbors have none
poor Israel
however will she defend herself against the unwashed mongul hordes?
Israel defeated muslim aggresion with less troops and weapons than they have now repeatedly thru history
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cushi1 year, 1 month ago
I do believe that Israel is the nation God chose to be His special vehicles to make His presence known to the entire world. However, that does not give Israel the right to do anything and everything it wants and to take advantage of other neighboring nations. God is a just God and that, I believe, is not His will for Israel or for any of us.
God has consistently punished Israel throughout biblical history for her wrongdoing, and I trust that He will judge that nation for its shortcomings, just as He will judge ours.
I do not believe we should have animosity toward Israel, but I also do not feel that we should give her carte blanche to do whatever she wants because, I believe, God did not choose her to take unfair advantage, but to reveal to the world His loving, gracious, merciful and just ways.
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Dionys1 year, 1 month ago
"I like how he sticks up for the teeny, weeny, state that gave back even MORE territory for peace,"
It may be tiny 'state', sizewise, but it is a country that threatens with nuclear weapons, regularly attacks its neighbours with missiles, air strikes, tanks and has a tendency to roll over protestors with rocks and shoot back at children. It's hardly the "little guy" in the area.
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memestryker1 year, 1 month ago
Hagee, Parsley, Wright, etc. do help people to gain insights on how to improve their lives, while cleverly manipulating them into attributing it to the religious doctrine they promulgate as "men of god." Yep, charlatans.
When Obama finally threw Wright under the bus, he showed b*lls--something he had not proven as a junior senator who has frequently voted "present" to avoid taking a stand on tough issues. Dumping Wright was a winning move to attract fence-sitters.
McCain needs votes, and panders to Bush's base. He's been so all-over-the-map that neither party trusts him. And his long history of voting can be picked apart, in addition to his shifts to attract blocks of votes. So it's just business for him.
Clinton is female and carries too much baggage--both deadly, even though I think she has a more solid religious background than Obama or McCain.
If Obama wins, I hope his tent is big enough for agnostics and atheists, too.
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DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year, 1 month ago
''When Obama finally threw Wright under the bus, he showed b*lls-''
I disagree.
denouncing Wright did not show as much balls and integrity as not playing politician would have, as just acknowledging their relationship and being a man
he only denounced him after floundering about and doing more damage, and then leaving himself only that option
he's just another politician playing games, but he's better than those other two
what you got with his handling of the Wright nonsense was, 'I am as you want me to be' instead of 'this is how I am' like a man
I'm not the only one who thought the Wright thing was much ado, but lost respect for him in the way he acted [except the speech on race-politically stupid, but a 'brave' thing to do]
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TrueProgressive1 year, 1 month ago
I notice the usual bunch of right wing creeps "sunk" this story. To them, it's okay to bash Obama for his relationship to Rev. Wright, whose message I believe is dead on in some respects even though the messenger has now shown himself to be a clown, but to give a pass to their guy, McBush, for his alliance to proven bigots and demogogues.
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Lurch1 year, 1 month ago
1. "Do you know the difference between a woman with PMS and a snarling Doberman pinscher? The answer is lipstick. Do you know the difference between a terrorist and a woman with PMS? You can negotiate with a terrorist."
- Pastor John Hagee in his book What Every Man Wants in a Woman (Charisma House, 2005)
2. "The Quran teaches that [all Muslims have a mandate to kill Christians and Jews]. Yes, it teaches that very clearly."
-Pastor John Hagee
McCain said he was "very honored by Pastor John Hagee's endorsement."
http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=5517
McCain, you suck.
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DeadXXXManXXXTalkin1 year, 1 month ago
"Do you know the difference between a woman with PMS and a snarling Doberman pinscher? The answer is lipstick. Do you know the difference between a terrorist and a woman with PMS? You can negotiate with a terrorist."
wow
don't quit your day job getting people to worship the reflection of your own ego, Shecky mc-Hagee
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CHAM1 year, 1 month ago
In commenting sometimes we get away from the core of the issue. The fact that Parsley and Hagee are supporters of the Bush Administration and call for death and destruction of people simply for their opposite views is indicative of the state of our MSM communications and their spin agenda.
The most refreshing words I've heard from any candidate this year was from Ron Paul. During an interview he was asked if he would vote for McCain. He said he didn't think so. The interviewer then asked "Don't you want to vote for a Republican?"
Paul said "There are things that are more important than Party".
If only everyone in America would follow that principle and elect moral people and kick out the corrupters, then we wouldn't have to be unsure of our own moral compass.
Voting for a lesser evil will guarantee that what you get will be evil.
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cloud151 year, 1 month ago
The sad thing is CHAM, most people who go to vote aren't paying attention to the debates, or the speeches or the interviews, or any of the process. They just show up at the ballot, see Democrat or Republican and vote. We live in a very ignorant society where our political party system has failed.
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cushi1 year, 1 month ago
You are right, but it is also true that you have to choose from the choices you have...if they are all evil, inevitably, you will be choosing the lesser of the evils.
Concurrently, there is no choice as long as man is in charge, that will not include some degree of evil, thus, the lesser of the evils is the only choice we can make.
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Georgia501 year, 1 month ago
Let's first deal with Cliff Carson's abject lies since using google is not within his mental abilities. He lied:
Irag is:
1. A country that did us no harm.
2. A country who's worse crime was to be setting on top of a pile of oil that was lusted after by ungodly people who would murder and wreak carnage to increase the size of their bank account.
To enumerate the magnitude of Carson's perfidy:
Contrary to (1) above:
1. Saddam harbored the killer of Leon Klinghoffer.
2. Several tons of LEU were removed from Iraq to the US (material could be used to create dirty bombs).
3. Iraqi training at Salman Pak was for "...terrorism. They would be trained on assassinations, kidnapping, hijacking of airplanes, hijacking of buses, public buses, hijacking of trains and all other kinds of operations related to terrorism...All this training is directly toward attacking American targets, and American interests." --Sabah Khodadah on Frontline.
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Georgia501 year, 1 month ago
Contrary to Carson's second lie above:
1. Saddam launched unprovoked invasion of Kuwait, and it's army massacred civilians at random.
2. Saddam launched scud missiles at Israeli civilian populations, demonstrating to all the international terrorist nature of his regime.
Since Carson's entire anti-Christian screed is based on his lies, there is no reason to trust anything he has ever said.
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CHAM1 year, 1 month ago
Georgia50
Informatin is as it is presented. But to refer back to my last post, I wrote that sometimes we drift away from the core subject in these comments.
I have heard, with my own ears, Rod Parsley state that America was founded to destroy Islam. I have heard him call for the utter destruction of all things Islamic.
I have watched many John Hagee sermons and I heard him, with my own ears, state that there was just two ways to live, the Torah way, and the wrong way. I thought this intresting that a Self Professed Christian might make this statement.
You see Georgia50, I wonder why would a Christian would not mention the bible as "the way to live".
And Georgia50, you may recall from all your research that Christianity, Judaism, and Islam all came thru Abraham. What you might not know is that the tomb of Abraham is the Mecca attraction for Muslims. The Hajj is a replication of the treck of Hagar and Ishmael in the desert after they were cast out.
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CHAM1 year, 1 month ago
Georgia50 (continued)
And while in the desert Hagar was visited by God and was promised by God that thru Ishmael would a geat Nation be raised. I submit that Nation is Islam.
Rod Parsley and John Hagee would destroy one of God's creations. Why? Because they are different than the two of them. That people would die is AOK with the two false prophets.
Iraq invaded Kuwait after two years of complaints about the slant drilling into the Iraqi Rammallah Oil field. When Kuwait refused to stop the practice and refused to pay royalties on the extracted oil, Saddam went to April Glaspie, the United States Ambassador and asked what would be the United States reaction if Iraq invaded Kuwait to stop the thievery of Iraq oil. Glaspie informed Hussein that the U S would stay out of it.
There's a good possibility that if you Google April Glaspie Kuwait invasion you might discover that.
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CHAM1 year, 1 month ago
Georgia50
Your concerns are valid. But what I know about those items you mentioned are as follows:
Kuwait was invaded only after two years of warnings about the slant drilling in to the Iraqi Ramallah Oil Field. Iraq told Kuwait to stop the practice or pay royalties. When Iraq could get Kuwait to do neither, Saddam visited the American Ambassador April Glaspie and asked what would be the U S reaction if Iraq invaded Kuwait. Glaspie after consultation with the White House told Saddam that the U S would stay out of the conflict.
Saddam did launch Scud missiles into civilian areas. Something the U S nor Israel would do - right?
I don't know how Abu Abbas, the hijacker got to Baghdad or when. He had been arrested and sent to Yugoslavia by the Italians but he was found in Iraw in 2003 after the invasion. I believed he died in 2004 of a heart attack while in U S custody.
I believe that LEU was removed from Iraq in 1998 by those Inspectors.
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CHAM1 year, 1 month ago
Georgia50
One more and I will quit bothering you or maybe you will be inspired to do some research and prove what I said above to be wrong.
The Salman Pak facility was built in the 1980's and I believe that it was about this time that Rumsfeldt and Cheney visited Hussein trying to help him win the war against Iran that the U S had talked him into starting. These same characters were complicit in supplying the materials for the chemical weapons he used against Iran and his own people. When the accusation came about using gas, the first Nation to defend him in the UN was - you guessed it the United States.
You might also remember that the fuss with Iran came about after Iran ovrethrew the Shah, the dictator that the U S and Britian installed to plunder the Iranian Oil.
Just the facts.
However this discussion should be about the Reverend Hagee and Parsley and their lust for blood (except theirs of course ).
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Georgia501 year, 1 month ago
Good points.
1. The promise is reckoned through Isaac and Jacob, not Ishmael and Esau. And Abraham's righteousness was by faith, not works as Islam directs.
2. Muslims claim Abraham's tomb is in Mecca. There is no evience that it is so.
3. I neither defend nor offer blanket endorsement of the teachings of Parsley and Hagee. But attacks on them ought to be based on facts, not lies as Carson does.
4. In June, 2004, 1.77 tons of LEU and other radioactive materials were removed from Iraq to Oak Ridge, TN. End of "no WMDs" argument right there.
5. The point about Iraq is it fired missiles on Israeli civilians for no apparent reason. I did not support the Pers. Gulf war, and if we'd develop W. Hemisphere resources, we would not need to care about Arabs or their oil.
6. Germany, the UN, and the US all sent anthrax spores to Iraq ostensibly for agricultural use. That it was later weaponized is not the fault of political leaders.
7. Why Salman Pak was built trumps when.
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CHAM1 year, 1 month ago
Georgia50
Sorry to be so long to respond but this is Mothers Day and all our children and most of the Grandchildren were here.
Thank you for your comments.
No 1. I believe I said that the religions Christianity, Judaism, and Islam all came thru Abraham. And I said that Islam arose from God visiting Hagar and making the promise to her. I submitted that Nation was Islam. I don't recall saying anything about the path of Judaism and Christianity. But what I said is correct read Genesis C21-V13.
No 2. I said the Muslims believe it is the Tomb at Mecca. The Bible locates the tomb of Abraham as in a cave purchased from the Hittites, but I don't know where that is.
No. 3 I said I had personally heard Parsley say that America was established to destroy Islam. I personally heard Hagee say that there were two ways to live, the Torah way , and the Wrong way. I said this was odd that these preachers would state such things that do not meet the Christian principles.
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CHAM1 year, 1 month ago
Georgia50 (Continued)
No 4. The definition of WMD is illusive. I think Nuclear Weapons are WMD as well as other mass killing weapons. Iraq had no WMD. LEU is not a WMD and neither is Uranium although it can be processed to build the fuel for a WMD. There is a difference. And I can't say that no LEU was removed from Iraq in 2004. But I can state that the Inspectors reported that they had removed all LEU by 1998. In any event LEU is not a WMD.
No 5. I agreed with you that Iraq fired Scud missiles on civilian targets. I did make a snide comment that the U S and Israel wouldn't do such a thing â;; right?. What I meant was we have used Depleted Uranium in Iraq and that is affecting our soldiers lives, the lives of the Iraqis today and the lives of Iraqis forever. Now that is a WMD. And it favors neither young, old, rich, poor, friend or foe.
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CHAM1 year, 1 month ago
Georgia50
Final
No 5. (Continued ) Israel, before they left Lebanon, scattered 3,000,000 cluster bombs that won't go off until disturbed. This WMD is deadly to children whose natural curiosity is to pick up that thing on the ground. It is taking its toll of children today and will for years.
I don't consider these type weapons to be defensive because of the effect it has on the innocents. And I'm sure you are aware that Bush and bunch want to use Nuclear weapons in Iran. The consequences to neighboring countries could be devastating not to mention the people of Iran. I think Parsley and Hagee would encourage the use of these weapons. But don't know for sure.
No 6. I disagree with you here. I'm pretty sure we sent WMD ( poison gas ) to Iraq to use against Iran.
No 7. I agree. But I believe it was built to use in the war with Iran which we got Saddam to initiate as a punishment for Iran overthrowing our dictator we had imposed on them.
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