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hyperbola1 year, 7 months ago
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What should we do about the Israelis that helped the zionist traitors in planning to kill americans in wars in the mideast (viz Netanyahu and "Clean Break")?
Clean Break or Dirty War? Israel's Foreign Policy Directive to the United States
... Great changes are seldom achieved without a plan. The Israeli policy paper "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm" (ACB) was authored by a group of policy advisors to Israel. Subsequently, nearly all members ascended to influential policy making positions within U.S. government, media, and academic circles. Many of the ACB policies such as toppling the government of Iraq are now in full implementation ...
http://www.irmep.org/Policy_Briefs/3_27_2003_Cl...
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jovial1 year, 7 months ago
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Hype,
I think that you have a lot of good contributions to make on these stories, but i feel that you might be laying the Zionist thing on a little too heavy. We can acknowledge that there has been a lot of wrong done by many countries including the U.S. I think that singling out Israel as the cause of all the problems is not fair. There's plenty enough blame to go everywhere. It also alienates you from other propeller members. You seem to be extremely knowledgeable on a lot of subjects in world politics. So it's a shame that the information that you sometimes share is lost, because the way you present it is abrasive to some.
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hyperbola1 year, 7 months ago
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Not nearly heavily enough. We have too many zionist traitors in our government and need to root them out. This is nothing to do with "anti-semitism" - jewish authors are amongst the loudest in condemning the zionist crimes in america.
JEWISH WRITERS CLAIM POWERFUL ZIONISTS DROVE USA INTO MID-EAST WAR FOR SAKE OF ISRAEL
Joe Klein, Time Magazine, Time.com, February 5, 2003
"A stronger Israel is very much embedded in the rationale for war with Iraq. It is a part of the argument that dare not speak its name, a fantasy quietly cherished by the neo-conservative faction in the Bush Administration and by many leaders of the American Jewish community....
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hyperbola1 year, 7 months ago
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Michael Kinsley, Slate Magazine, October 24, 2002
... The lack of public discussion about the role of Israel in the thinking of "President Bush" is easier to understand, but weird nevertheless. It is the proverbial elephant in the room: Everybody sees it, no one mentions it. The reason is obvious and admirable: Neither supporters nor opponents of a war against Iraq wish to evoke the classic anti-Semitic image of the king's Jewish advisers whispering poison into his ear and betraying the country to foreign interests....
Ari Shavit, April 5, 2003 Haaretz News Service (Israel)
"The war in Iraq was conceived by 25 neoconservative intellectuals, most of them Jewish, who are pushing President Bush to change the course of history....
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hyperbola1 year, 7 months ago
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James Rosen, April 6, 2003 The Sacramento Bee (California)
"In 1996, as Likud Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu prepared to take office, eight Jewish neoconservative leaders sent him a six-page memo outlining an aggressive vision of government. At the top of their list was overthrowing Saddam and replacing him with a monarch under the control of Jordan.... Lead writer of the memo was Perle. Other signatories were Feith, now undersecretary of defense, and Wurmser, a senior adviser to John Bolton, undersecretary of state....
Thomas Friedman, April 4 2003 New York Time Columnist
I could give you the names of 25 people (all of whom are at this moment within a five-block radius of this office) who, if you had exiled them to a desert island a year and a half ago, the Iraq war would not have happened....
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hyperbola1 year, 7 months ago
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Israel Shamir, Israeli Author
"The powerful pro-Israel lobby in the United States, which advances Israeli interests by pushing for U.S. aid and protection to Israel, and, currently, by pressing for a war against Iraq, which again will serve Israeli interests. This lobby has not only helped control media debate and made congress into `Israeli occupied territory', it has seen to it that numerous officials with 'dual loyalties' occupy strategic decision-making positions in the Bush administrationâ;¦" ...
http://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.c...
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walden31 year, 7 months ago
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"Dear friends,
They say that a picture is worth 1000 words. We believe that the following photographs demonstrates vividly the moral issues facing Israeli troops when confronting armed Palestinian gunmen taking refuge among children and civilians. When taking into consideration this terrorist tactic -- operating from within civilian population -- one can only appreciate the relatively low Palestinian civilian casualty rate caused by IDF soldiers.
Look at the photographs. Read the original captions. Examine the environment. See the civilians."
http://www.geocities.com/palestiniansarelies/Hu...
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walden31 year, 7 months ago
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"Palestinian children are taught to hate Jews, to glorify "jihad" (holy war), violence, death and child martyrdom almost from birth, as an essential part of their culture and destiny.
children's program called the "Children's Club" -- complete with puppet shows, songs, Mickey Mouse and other characters -- focused on inculcating intense hatred of Jews and a passion for engaging in and celebrating violence against them in a perpetual "jihad" until the day the Israeli flags come down from above "Palestinian land" and the Palestinian flag is raised.
Palestinian children throwing rocks at an Israeli military vehicle.
In one song on the "Children's Club," very young children are shown singing songs about wanting to become "suicide warriors" and to take up "a machine gun" to direct "violence, anger, anger, anger" against Israelis.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?A...
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walden31 year, 7 months ago
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Shouldn't poor old Hyper join with the good and righteous and denounce of the use of children by Palestinian terrorists. Poor old Hyper still sees violence and using kids as weapons as a viable solution. Pity poor old Hyper.
"(New York, November 3, 2004) -- Palestinian armed groups should immediately end all use of children in military attacks, Human Rights Watch said today, following a Tel Aviv suicide bombing by a 16-year-old that killed three Israeli civilians Monday.
" Any attack on civilians is prohibited by international law, but using children for suicide attacks is particularly egregious. Palestinian armed groups must clearly and publicly condemn all use of children under the age of 18 for military activities, and make sure these policies are carried out. "
http://www.hrw.org/english/docs/2004/11/02/isrl...
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obiefrommuskogee1 year, 7 months ago
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Hyperbola is absolutely right.
It was Netenyahu who said that "Terrorism is appropriate for the goals of Israel."
Zionism is ruining America, and it gets worse every day.
Why are we protecting Israel. Ron Paul is right. Let them fight their own battles. We don't need to send over America's teens and our taxpayer money for Israel. They have done NOTHING for the USA. Except whine and gripe. And now they want all their foreign aid in Euros. Screw those nasty arrogant pricks.
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walden31 year, 7 months ago
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How do you reconcile your statements with the following facts?
If American Jews had their way GWB would not have been elected in 2000 or 2004. American Jews were against the Iraq War. American Jews vote Democratic. GWB had an enormous advantage in the Christian vote. Evangelicals put GWB in office.
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walden31 year, 7 months ago
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Why do you think Jews put Bush in office?
You might want to rethink your belief about Jews putting Bush in the Whitehouse, three out of hour Jews voted against Bush. Protestants and white Catholics put Bush in office. Also, don't forget what a slim portion of the population Jews are.
http://people-press.org/commentary/display.php3...
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Radiofreeeuropa1 year, 7 months ago
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The militant right wingers of the Israeli govt. and the militant rightwingers in the U.S. have indeed colluded. As Walden points out American Jews overwhelmingly are anti neocons. Hyperbola's comments are usually well researched, I think the terminology is the issue, if we were to substitute radical militant rightwingers for Zionists, there probably wouldn't be much argument.
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