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Posted By JamesMarcus 1 year, 7 months ago in NewsThe U.S. military on Friday denied Iraqi government claims that the leader of al-Qaida in Iraq was captured and said a man with a similar name had been arrested in the northern city of Mosul. Iraqi authorities had announced Thursday that police commandos captured Abu Ayyub al-Masri in a raid in the northern city of Mosul.
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walden31 year, 7 months ago
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djrevelky1 year, 7 months ago
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So I guess its just wrong to capture and/or kill terrorist leaders because someone will step up into their place? Good logic, let's just not fight at all and let them do whatever they want because fighting them is pointless because someone takes their place.
I'm certainly glad that FDR didn't think that when Hitler died that "someone would take his place."
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walden31 year, 7 months ago
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We can't kill them all. We need to reduce the likelihood that some will turn to terror as a solution. Same as illegal drugs. What has locking up 1,000,000 Americans for drugs done? Any 15 year old kid can get anything he wants in 15 minutes.
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
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djrevelky1 year, 7 months ago
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And how do we do something that will reduce the likelihood that they turn to terror as a solution?
The belief that you can talk to and reason with Middle Eastern Radicals is more naieve that Bush and Cheney thinking that Iraq would be fine without a strong controlling force.
Middle Eastern culture is VERY different from Western and Far Eastern culture. THe deserts breed a different kind of people that does the rest of the world.
And of course, you can't talk to madmen. If a man is so incensed with anger, hatred, and "piety" that is willing to blow himself up kililng tens, if not hundreds, of children with him what can you say to him to make him change his mind?
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quackpot1 year, 7 months ago
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After five-plus years of fighting with the world's best trained and equipped soldiers NO progress has been made.
Two years ago, Petreus said that any progress would require a political solution.
Why are you so deluded about the power of bombs to help our cause rather than hinder it?
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Dionys1 year, 7 months ago
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"After five-plus years of fighting with the world's best trained and equipped soldiers NO progress has been made. "
Considering that most of their equipment is crap, exceping perhaps their weaponry, and tends to break down I'm not sure I would consider them the best equipped. Especially for the region. The same goes for training. It seems that for this particular kind of war the Afghans and fighters in Iraq had better training. Perhaps from dealing with the Soviets. Or maybe like Bin Laden they had personal training from some of the best in the CIA.
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quackpot1 year, 7 months ago
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If they are so well trained, why, after five-plus years, are we still training them to take over the responsibility of providing police protection for their citizens?
Sounds to me like the Iraqi "leadership" is more interested in the gravy train of U.S. dollars than anything else.
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quackpot1 year, 7 months ago
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Does anybody have a reliable figure - or even reliable ball park figure for just how many al-qaida-iraq members there are?
As far as I have been able to discern, the membership is actually quite small and has been relatively constant since after the invasion (it was zero before the invasion).
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jimdoze1 year, 7 months ago
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"Does anybody have a reliable figure - or even reliable ball park figure for just how many al-qaida-iraq members there are?"
The U.S. Military has been taking a census... one or two at a time. It was determined to be best to kill them (or detain them indefinitely) as they are counted so that we don't count them twice.
Those are not organizations as we understand organizations. Most are one thing by day and Al Qaeda by night. The point is to keep killing them as quickly and as surgically as possible... and demonstrate that we will not be deterred by ours getting killed... so that eventually their inner cost-benefit calculus will be overwhelmed. Stabilizing Iraq is as much a question of will as it is of tactics.
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injest1 year, 7 months ago
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"cost-benefit calculus"
This is how RepugnantCons get you to ignore dead Americans fighting a war they have no business being in and an enemy that didn't exist before the war.
"an enemy that didn't exist before the war"
Could you clarify what "war" your referring to?
"Terrorism experts question U.S. air strikes
Clinton's military gambit may embolden terrorist backer Osama bin Laden and his followers.
SALON | Aug. 21, 1998
BY HARRY JAFFE , JEFF STEIN AND LORI LEIBOVICH | The bombing of six supposed terrorist sites in Afghanistan and the Sudan Thursday by U.S. forces may have given some Americans a sense of revenge -- and temporarily diverted some public attention from President Clinton's deepening sex scandal -- but a number of foreign policy experts believe it will serve only to embolden Middle East radicals bent on further terrorist acts against the United States.
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injest1 year, 7 months ago
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Taliban leaders in Afghanistan reported that bin Laden was not killed in Thursday's bombing raids. Reich says it's just as well. "He would have become a martyr," says the professor. "It could very well have had the opposite effect."
Armstrong agrees that the bombings could backfire. "It could recruit huge numbers of people to his cause," Armstrong says. "He has about 4,000 active members right now, and he could call on many thousands more. These raids will multiply that by a factor of 10.""
History shows Armstrong was correct. Not only did the bombings attacks increase the number of bin laden terrorist, the failure to follow through and get bin laden guaranteed a retaliation attack that came on 9/11/01.
http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/1998/08...
You do know that bin laden declared war on the USA back in the 90's?
Also note if you look up this article notice the name Al Qaida is not used.
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