Obama defends his patriotism, quarrels with McCain »
Posted By not2needy 1 year, 5 months ago in NewsWearing a flag lapel pin, Sen. Barack Obama emphasized his patriotism and support for a strong and humane military Monday, while Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton implored West Virginians to sustain her hopes of somehow denying him the Democratic presidential nomination.
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not2needy1 year, 5 months ago
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FTA:
Pointing to the Bush administration, he said, "we know that over the last eight years we've already fallen short of meeting this test." He cited once shabby conditions at such facilities as Walter Reed Army Medical Center, and long waits and bureaucratic obstacles facing many who seek care from the Veterans Administration.
"When our troops go into battle, they serve no faction," Obama said. "They serve no party. They represent no race or region. They are simply Americans."
He proposed expanded veterans' benefits for health care, education, housing and psychiatric treatment. He said McCain opposes a Democratic-crafted bill in Congress to expand education benefits "because he thinks it's too generous."
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not2needy1 year, 5 months ago
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Also FTA:
McCain's campaign said the Arizona senator backs a Republican alternative that is better because it enhances benefits for those who stay longer in the military, thereby encouraging recruitment and retention of troops.
So, this would lead me to believe that unless a Vet spent 20 years in the military, or were paralyzed from the neck down, Vets wouldn't qualify for VA benefits under McCain.
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Goppy1 year, 5 months ago
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I must say that I was not a huge Obama supporter in the beginning.
But he has continued to impress me in ways that I did not anticipate.
He is RATIONAL where other politicians are crazy to pander.
That is unprecedented and totally refreshing.
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not2needy1 year, 5 months ago
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HAHA! This FTA may shut up some of the people who think Obama is a loser because he can't bowl!
"After the speech, Obama stopped at Schultzie's Billiards hall, where he showed greater skill at pool than he had at bowling last month in Pennsylvania.
As a small crowd oohed and ahhed at his third consecutive good shot, Obama said his skill was "the sign of a misspent youth. I wasn't doing wholesome things like bowling."
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jordan111 year, 5 months ago
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automan9091 year, 5 months ago
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Obama trying to show his patriotism is the joke of the day.
How can a man who's friend and mentor says "God Damn America",and said that we did all of those other horrible things be patriotic? Obama worshiped with him for 20 years.
Not to mention his being friends with Ayres and his girlfriend. The bombers that wished he did more bombing.
And his own wife who has never been proud of America.
And he wants to make a Socialist nation out of us.
He won't do the Pledge of Allegence.
Won"t wear a flag pin.
I see nothing patriotic about this man at all.
He has way too much dirty laundry to be our President.
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cowboygrandpa1 year, 5 months ago
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automan909:
Yeah I guess Bush really showed his patriotism during Nam huh? Spent what part of his hitch he served in Texas. Now there is a patriot for you huh?
I wonder if he will get the time he served in the military as part of his government pension. Cause you know he needs the money more than the returning wounded vets right?
Clown!!!!!!!
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cowboygrandpa1 year, 5 months ago
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I have to wonder why the GOP is trying to sling mud when their guy is so open to a mud bath. History on McCain is something he can't hide from. How patriotic was he during the Keaton Five Whammy. He cheated pensioners and older Americans many of them WWII vets out of their lifes savings.
Yeah McCain real patriotic to steal from older retired people.
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nikkibabe1 year, 5 months ago
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cowboygrandpa:
Correction. It was Keating 5 scandal in which McCain and Charles Keating partnership that bilked thousands of small depositors, pensioners, senior citizens out of their life savings in 80's. Charles Keating went to prison, McCain did not because the Republicans shielded one of their own LIKE Bush is protecting the criminal elements in his administration today.
McCain is no angel. Today he is surrounded by more lobbyists than any other candidate in US history. Practically everyone in top positions in his campaign is a lobbyist or works for a lobbying firm.
So this does not make him patriotic just because he puts a flag lapel on his jacket. He is scum inside like many in the current administration with external hypocritical show of patriotism.
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Albmore1 year, 5 months ago
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I think we have seen where this is headed. Billary would ruin the entire party for a win if they could pull it off.
I have to admit Obama is the only one who seems to be talking common sense on the issues. I disagree with his tax raise, but I do trust him to have good economic advisors in his cabinet. The summer tax break is exactlt what he said and both Billary and McCain tried to use it. It is time America realizes where it is and stop putting make up over the problems thinking they will somehow go away.
We are NOT number one in education, trade, health care, enviormental issues and our nations dollar is loosing its value over the entire world. WAKE UP and deal with the issues!
With all respect to his service McCain knows little on all of these issues.
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Tcaros1 year, 5 months ago
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McCain is an elitist and social climber. He divorced his first wife and married a billionare Heirest. She inherited the Hensley fortune.
Anyone who thinks McCain is a patriot is crazy. Elistism is a form of social climbing that sells out all values. He's an elitist who doesn't give a rat's butt about the average American.
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Poulenc1 year, 5 months ago
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Kville, if, as you say, we need change, and we want change, let us do our best to ensure it happens.
As for those those who criticize O's patriotism--why is love of country so often "determined" by adherence to superficial rituals like flag-pin wearing or pledging allegiance to the flag, or by the politics of one's associates, rather than by individual CHARACTER, judged overall.
Does a pol seem to have integrity? Has he or she thought long and hard about what is ACTUALLY best for his/her country? What sorts of investments in the future does he or she propose? Can he or she sort out what is right and productive for his or her country to identify itself with rather than what is wrong?
Like that.
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Poulenc1 year, 5 months ago
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Actually, I'm disappointed that O. (seems to have) caved on the flag-pin issue.
It was a sign of integrity to have gone without...
...which doesn't mean he's any the less (or more) patriotic than he was last week or the week before that...
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IanFraigun1 year, 5 months ago
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If you follow the history of the campaign Obama has always worn a flag pin when speaking to veteran groups as a sign of respect for what they have done for the country. Been doing it since long before it was any kind of a invalid republican charge against his patriotism.
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cushi1 year, 5 months ago
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You know what trips me out? Every time Shrillary points out that her main base is uneducated blue collar workers and the elderly. In one foul swoop, she is calling her backers ignorant and old, yet they don't seem to pick up on the fact that they are being insulted. On the other hand, McCain gets all bent because Obama says he's losing his bearings, and the easily swayed voters in PA flocked to Hillary because Obama rightly stated that some of them were "bitter" and cling to their religion (aren't we believers supposed to do just that?)! Some people are so easily had!
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badstick1 year, 5 months ago
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I hope before general election time that the American voting public will take the time to truly understand why we are fighting the war in Iraq. To all of you out there who are voting on personalities....WAKE-UP!
Everbody wants some kind of change. And,"change" is an easy word to use in the heat of political battle.
I've been around for a lot of elections. Voted for some guys who turned out good and some who really sucked.
The one thing I've learned through all these years is know who you are voting for. Try your best to look at their past records and vote on that...not what they say when trying to get elected. Then, and this is most important..
understand the world as it is, not how it is in our dreams.
Life is tough, young people. It's not going to get much better. The United States will no longer be the power it was when your parents were your age.
Come out of your dream world,face reality, and vote accordingly.
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Poulenc1 year, 5 months ago
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I'm not sure that H. has ever referred to her blue-collar base as "uneducated"--do correct me if I'm wrong.
And calling them working class, as well as calling the elderly elderly isn't libelous, IMO. It's just a (refreshing, to me) acknowledgment of who they ARE, at least partially.
Always horrified by euphemisms like "physically challenged" for "disabled," for example. The euphemisms end up saluting the very thing they're meant to finesse....
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Tangent0011 year, 5 months ago
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Hillary did say her supporters were 'hard-working white Americans', leaving open the interpretation that Obama supporters were neither white nor hard-working.
I haven't seen the avalanche of criticism akin to the Obama 'Bitter'-gate. Seems to me the Obama campaign is simply not interested in going after his rivals simply for mis-statements. Well, at least not yet...
I don't recall, did Obama make any sort of comment about Hillary's sniper-fire lie?
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joeblowe1 year, 5 months ago
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Tangent0011 year, 5 months ago
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Did you read any of the posted comments? The pin was given to him by a veteran at the event. Why is it 'pandering' (or worse 'unpatriotic') to honor a veteran?
BTW, according to the federal flag code, a flag lapel pin is most certainly allowable, as long as it's always worn on the left lapel.
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