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BuffaloJ1 year, 6 months ago
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"Voting is a right of citizens and proof of citizenship is not asking too much."
Yes it is! This is complete BS! I was born here, I have a Social Security card and a drivers license. I already have to register to vote. There is no reason they cannot tie the voting system in with the Social Scurity and drivers license system so not only would I not have to prove I am a citizen in order to vote but I would not have to go thru the register to vote cr*p.
I have more than enough proof in my wallet to prove I am who I say I am. I sure as heck should not have to jump thru more hoops to present more proof when the proof I can already provide is obviously more than adequate.
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svensun1 year, 6 months ago
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Oh no, meso, 'cons' as you call us have NOT FORGOTTEN. If you listened to any 'con' talk radio, you would know that.
McCain is persona non grata when it comes to the amnesty issue. Every time he talks about it, I start a slow burn.
There is no hypocrisy going on around here, just a lot of holding one's nose and looking away while pulling the lever for McCain, you can be sure of that.
You don't think that because of McCain's outrageous position on amnesty that a conservative would vote for Hillary or Obama, do you?
Oh yeah, that's right, Ann Coulter was voting for Hillary.
Her latest column was: "One down, TWO to go!"
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mesodude1 year, 6 months ago
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"There is no hypocrisy going on around here, just a lot of holding one's nose and looking away while pulling the lever for McCain, you can be sure of that."
--Just for the sake of clarification, aren't you basically saying that when cons argued back in '04 that the main reason they couldn't conceive of voting for Kerry was because he was a "flipflopper," they were pretty much lying through their teeth and merely voting for Bush for the sake of the party (regardless of the negative impact he was having on our country)? What's more, isn't that in essence what you and many cons are doing AGAIN today--by doing a total 180 on the evils of flipflopping, voting for McCain (when he's virtually assured us that he plans to continue down the same wrong-headed path as Bush has all these years)? And yet you still bristle when I label you people con artists?
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BuffaloJ1 year, 6 months ago
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Wolfie20071 year, 6 months ago
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Well, BuffaloJ, let's just try it and see if it helps. I really don't know if illegals will go to the trouble to get another id just to vote, do you? It really isn't just about illegals voting it's about dead people voting and people voting more than once and people voting in the wrong states and precincts. I think this might help stop all that.
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svensun1 year, 6 months ago
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Wait a minute tkyrchncs,
no one pays MY gas costs to drive to the polls and vote. My polling place is at the top of hill I hate driving up, much less walking to. I can't imagine climbing that hill in a wheelchair, yet I haven't heard of any transport for handicapped people to go vote.
My grandmother is 93, can hardly walk, and her polling place is blocks away. No gives her a ride to the polls, except me.
There are all sorts of 'obstacles' to voting already. This new one doesn't seem that harsh, in perspective, does it?
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mesodude1 year, 6 months ago
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" I really don't know if illegals will go to the trouble to get another id just to vote, do you?"
--Worse, you "really don't know" that voter fraud is some widespread problem or that it's threatened the GOP in any way. The reason anyone with a brain knows that cons are fabricating and lying on this issue is because you claim to be concerned about the integrity of voting results but you're carefully cherry-picking only the aspects of the voting process you believe threaten the GOP. You're not credible on this issue at all because no one has forgotten 2000 when you people didn't give a rats arse about the integrity of the process when results were tilted in your favor. No one believes you.
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slate1 year, 6 months ago
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Interesting that the 'advocate' would come out against it because illegal's chances of voting may be hindered.
Sure we have Drivers Licenses and SSI cards, but now they are so easy to counterfeit for the right price.
I don't know what the answer is, but I for one want Real citizens of the United States of America voting in our elections, not others that are from other countries, dead people or people that vote multiple times.
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mesodude1 year, 6 months ago
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To the extent that any exists, I'm all for eliminating voter fraud. While we're at it, we should eliminate voter intimidation (which is, in fact, really what we're talking about in this particular case) as well. I'd also like to see cons as eager to to condemn tactics such as "operation chaos" as they are to slam and attack any and everything moveon.org does.
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slate1 year, 6 months ago
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You Dems should have thought about that when your side crossed the line and voted Republican in an open Primary it's a goose and gander thing,, you can't complain now after your side did the same thing,,,,, besides,,,, in this nation anyone has the right to vote for those they wish to vote for, if they are citizens
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slate1 year, 5 months ago
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But it's ok if the Daily Kos wants it?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/10/2713/87...
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slate1 year, 5 months ago
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http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=15297
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tkyrchncs1 year, 6 months ago
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Why should I have to have anything (I don't really, though I do have birth certificate, dl, passport, ss card, voter registration card)? I am supposed to carry all that and my utility bill to the polls because you guys in the state capital say so? I am known personally to the registrar, the captain of the polls, and every poll worker in my town. Why don't you guys lay off and let the people running the polls determine what they need where they work?
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Nixie1 year, 6 months ago
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"I am known personally to the registrar, the captain of the polls, and every poll worker in my town."
Whopdeedoo.
Not everyone enjoys the same level of celebrity that you do. Should they not get to vote because the poll workers don't recognize them on sight and cheer their name when they walk into the polling place?
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tkyrchncs1 year, 6 months ago
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I live and vote in a very small place, I went to hs with all these people, or their parents. My point was let the people who have the problem handle the problem. Why create unnecessary burdens on everyone when only a few precincts are even potentially problematical?
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chevydog1 year, 6 months ago
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Buffalo -- Don't know your age. But when I got my Social Security card (about 1962) I was put against the wall and told "This is not an ID card; it is against Federal law to use it as an ID card." Yet all sorts of organizations seem to require it to be used as such.
Also, do you sign you name the same way every time? I've varied throughout my life. Sometimes I'm asked for a middle initial, sometimes for a full middle name. Sometimes I've used a Jr., sometimes not. There was even a phase when I used my middle name only to distinguish me from my Father. Any "name guardian" who wanted to make issue with this could; I've had it happen to me. IMHO, this opens the door to much more fraud than it would ever prevent.
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ADAGUY1 year, 6 months ago
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For the first time, I have to agree with Endoscopy. Anyone can obtain a social security no. Legal or not! A photo ID voter registration card is what is needed. It must be available to only those who can prove citizenship!
Then the only problem will be addressing the election fraud that is done by the election officials themselves, like we recently witnessed in Ohio!
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