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Posted By jovial 1 year, 7 months ago in Arts & Entertainment

Look at this Fox channel news flash closely. Do you see it?

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    jovial1 year, 7 months ago

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    Sublimal messaging or a freudian slip? You decide.

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      GWHayduke1 year, 7 months ago

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      Damn liberal media!

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        UnusualSuspect1 year, 7 months ago

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        Yeah, but was it added afterwards? I know enough about Photoshop for print and video effects plug-ins for Adobe After Effects and Apple's Final Cut Pro to know this could have been added by a talented individual after the fact, possibly to make Fox look bad.

        Who's to say? But having a subliminal message certainly isn't something that should be seen on a network that touts itself as "fair and balanced"!

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          dunkirk1 year, 7 months ago

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          Sure and work will set you free too.

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          aceofspades11 year, 7 months ago

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          Wow now I have Christ's image on my grilled cheese & McCain on the news logo - what's next? Cheney on Depends?

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            BronxBomber1 year, 7 months ago

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            I dunno but you could sell that grilled cheese on Ebay ace.

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          Charlson1 year, 7 months ago

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          You really can't give the benefit of doubt to anything associated with Fox News anymore. They've been exposed time and time again as a biased and unbalanced news source for quite some time. And the mindless viewers who continue to watch and believe the shill they broadcast are the same 19-20% who still support Bush.

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            slate1 year, 7 months ago

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            And the mindless viewers who continue to watch and believe the shill they broadcast are the same 19-20% who still support Bush.

            I love how liberal Putzs will buy Move on,, Daily Kos,,,, and Hufferpost as gospil but those dang mindless viewers that watch FOX! Yeah keep thinking you have the answers and everyone else has to be mindless, it's good for an ego that needs help.

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              markoller1 year, 6 months ago

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              All the other networks are worse. At least Fox interviewed Dr. Morgan Reynolds of Scholars For Truth. He pointed out that the jet crash into the south tower was computer generated and that according to BTS records, Flights AA 11 and AA 77 never took off. Click http://news.propeller.com/story/2008/05/14/dr-r...

              Fox also broadcast an explosive documentary about Israeli spying, and then was forced to make it vanish. It did not specifically blame Israel for the September 11 terrorism, but it raised suspicions. Click http://100777.com/usa/israeli_spyring

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              Shadowolf1 year, 7 months ago

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              ...McCain don't have the legs for a Freudian slip...

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                Goppy1 year, 7 months ago

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                slate - Are you saying that putting this subliminal endorsement by FOX is 'above board'?

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                ADAGUY1 year, 7 months ago

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                I don't buy into any of the above. But anyone with an ounce of sense knows that Fox is extremely biased! Only a fool can still ignore it.

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                  slate1 year, 7 months ago

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                  They are more right leaning than most left leaning stations yes, but what sets them apart is they actually try and balance their show with actual views from both sides of the isle.

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                    scott42611 year, 7 months ago

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                    ALL of the nets and cable channels are right of center...only Fox News is past the right shoulder and in the ditch!

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                      ADAGUY1 year, 6 months ago

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                      Not hardly!

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                    dunkirk1 year, 7 months ago

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                    He may have known Freud.

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                      BronxBomber1 year, 7 months ago

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                      Or Fraud...

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                        jordan111 year, 7 months ago

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                        As an old person, I have to take offense at these agist remarks. Well, wait a minute now. I'm not officially a 'senior citizen' until July, so go ahead on.

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                          Shadowolf1 year, 7 months ago

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                          Rating: 8 ( 8/-0) | 2008-05-12 16:35:36

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                          He may have known Freud.

                          Dunkirk;

                          ...in the BIBLICAL MANNER???

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                        BigBadJohn6661 year, 7 months ago

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                        Who's John McCain? Is there another party besides Democrat? I watch NBC news all the time and I thought that Democrat was the only party.

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                          slate1 year, 7 months ago

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                          When was the last time someone watched the man on the street interviewing young people on the street and asking them political questions?

                          These 'supposed' hip and with it politicos think that the presidential election is being done right now instead of primaries, and they think both people trying to be president are in the same party and have no idea there is a Republican waiting to do battle once the Democrats 'finally' come up with a candidate. As of right now, the Dems have two wannabs and the Republicans have a real candidate. Yeah the young vote, it's very important because they know not what they do and are easily manipulated, especially with the OLD argument.

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                            jovial1 year, 7 months ago

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                            ROTFLMAO!

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                              slate1 year, 7 months ago

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                              Yeah I laugh too when I hear them, you should weep a bit Jo JO

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                                jovial1 year, 7 months ago

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                                Roll on the floor, laugh my ass off!

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                                  slate1 year, 7 months ago

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                                  What's it look like?

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                                    Shadowolf1 year, 7 months ago

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                                    ...cracked, with a hole in it...

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                                      slate1 year, 7 months ago

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                                      But what's it look like when if's laughed off? Can you still sit? Does it mess the balance up when standing? Can you still keep your pants on?

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                                        BronxBomber1 year, 7 months ago

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                                        Besides political viewpoints, is he any different from you slate? Or any of us?

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                                          slate1 year, 7 months ago

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                                          Most likely not, heck I'd be fun to have a beer with as I'm sure most here would, as long as we don't talk about politics and such, I'm sure we'd get along.

                                          I have just as much right to have my opinion as anyone here without someone calling me uneducated or a varied other things. I can take it but when that happens all it does is make me push back harder.

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                                            jovial1 year, 7 months ago

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                                            You're problem was, and still remains to be, is that you came on this thread talking about things that were totally unrelated. You've talked about Clinton, Bush bashing, and a host of other crap that has nothing to do with that. Then when people heckle you or become disturbed you proceed to become even more agitating. I fear it's more a cry out for attention than a conviction to voice your opinion. There are plenty of threads out there where Bush bashing or Hillary was the subject. Yet you used this forum to express your unrelated political opinion. You came here to stir things up. It's clear to me. To agitate. I laugh at you. I refuse to give you the type of attention you long for.

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                                              slate1 year, 7 months ago

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                                              LOL Jo Jo now you act like you're a shrink trying to diagnose me, how utterly. I tell you what hot shot worry about your own cry for attention coming in here trying to tell me what my problem is.

                                              what's the cute little thingy you say about floors and your butt again?

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                          NoSpinDave1 year, 7 months ago

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                          nothing but photoshop at its finest. Nothing to see here.

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                            NoSpinDave1 year, 7 months ago

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                            Just watched the Fox5 news and Tevo'd it. Its not there. Period. This is nothing mre than a clever FAKE, but I am glad to see the far left extremists here still believe everything the far left feeds them.

                            Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside to know how easily duped you clowns are.

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                              jovial1 year, 7 months ago

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                              The key to doing these type of messages is to not put it in the same place and time every day. If it's done at random no one will know where to look.

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                                NoSpinDave1 year, 7 months ago

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                                Umm humm.

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                              NoSpinDave1 year, 7 months ago

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                              going to say it one more time for the slower people here.........ITS A

                              F A K E!!!!!

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                                aemeeich1 year, 7 months ago

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                                I work at an ABC TV station. I can say that the youtube clip was edited - but not by adding the McCain picture. That was in the original airing, what was edited was the cut immediately after the McCain picture to the anchor 2-shot. There was some time removed there. You'll notice the audio cut out and the picture cut abruptly.

                                The reason for the McCain picture is this. The "Right Now" computer generated animation (CG) has "holes" in it while it is running. This means that you will see whatever is under the CG - it could be black, a solid color, a picture, or a video clip. So in the youtube clip, the "Right Now" story is going to be about McCain. What Fox 5 did is start the CG animation and the video clip at the same time, with the CG animation keyed over the video clip. As soon as the animation finishes, it goes away and just leaves the video continuing to run behind it.

                                If the story was about Obama or Clinton their picture would have shown up there too.

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                                Aidenag1 year, 7 months ago

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                                This is subliminal for sure. One cannot make this type of mistake without meaning to. Its a news stations intro logo, one would literally have to input that McCain image into it knowing full well what they were doing.. No way someone accidentally spliced that McCain shot into it..

                                anyone with any video editing experience will tell you the same thing.

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                                  bubba21 year, 7 months ago

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                                  It is intentional - no one that works on computer graphics and specifically puts something like that together (a 'one of a kind' logo) would make that kind of 'mistake'.

                                  Pretty cheesy of them ....

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                                    ETproductions1 year, 7 months ago

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                                    Ooh! A Fox gets caught in a bear trap!

                                    Thank you Rupert Murdoch for further proof of your Nazi Propagandist tendencies. Fox News? News my butt!

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                                      Mdiar1 year, 7 months ago

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                                      ...LMAO

                                      *zombie voice*... McCain, must vote McCain!

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                                        Charlson1 year, 7 months ago

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                                        And to think they villified him during the republican nominating process. But since he's flipped-flopped on so many issues, so can Fox.

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                                          jordan111 year, 7 months ago

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                                          Must be an idea that came from one of their 'PR' firms. They're desperate.

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                                            scott42611 year, 7 months ago

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                                            Now I'm gonna catch the opening of the news on my local FOX affiliate to see if Grandpa's on theirs too. I'll bet he is...

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                                              slate1 year, 7 months ago

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                                              GrandPaw? Wow you of all people should know better than being a bigot about people Scott.

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                                                scott42611 year, 7 months ago

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                                                I am not a bigot. There is no basis for that accusation.

                                                Look, John McCain is the same age as my mother. But unlike my mother, he ACTS older than dirt! I think that is an accurate observation...

                                                Of course, it could be worse. I could call him a dumbass like I do President Bush.

                                                And I could be much more mean and nasty as I have seen from aniokly, JoseMadre, lum-chate and others who repeatedly regurgitate TRULY bigoted statements against Barack Obama. Statements which have - I might add - absolutely no basis in fact.

                                                I would think that my harmless words pale in comparison...

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                                                  slate1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                  Yes there is Scott and you know it, you can't fake out of it. You've been bashing his age and talking about dementia and such.

                                                  Trying to use other posters actions in threads, as an excuse is so lame don't you think?

                                                  Go ahead and keep talking about his age, some people think bigotry is ok as long as the person or group deserves it in their own personal view, I just think that someone that is supposed to be personally sensitive to those types of things would refrain from doing the very thing that has given them personal pain to others.

                                                  I would have thought you were mature enough to figure out that being age bigoted is just as bad as any bigotry, seeing how you know first hand about bigotry and have stated so here in these threads.

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                                                    scott42611 year, 7 months ago

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                                                    Sorry, slate, I do not see it that way. And to say that my harmless statements equate to the level of REAL bigotry is insulting to my intelligence.

                                                    And BTW, find your sense of humor... I know you have one...

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                                                jovial1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                Think you struck a nerve.

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                                                jovial1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subliminal_message

                                                A short tutorial on sublimal messaging. How it's been used and studies done on it's effectiveness.

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                                                  BronxBomber1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                  Hey Jovial, I thought the FCC stopped subliminal messages in the early 60's...WTF?!

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                                                    jovial1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                    The guy who caught this was doing video editing and caught this by chance. Yes, it was declared illegal. That doesn't usually stop people from doing it though. It just makes the crooks sneakier. They probably never thought in a million years that anyone would have caught it. I wonder how many others are doing it and most people never catch it.

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                                                  Grrr1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                  And that's just one that was noticeable.

                                                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEcjwxZ1g2k&feat...

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                                                    miklkit1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                    I thought that stuff was made illegal decades ago. When was that legalized?

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                                                      Grrr1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                      It was made illegal in advertising. Apparently FOX doesn't consider their splash an advertisement... but then you have to wonder about their news content. I'd say this seriously calls for an investigation of subliminal content in non-advertisement content.

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                                                        joeblowe1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                        I'd put forth the proposition that PUTTING a single candidates image there like that MAKES it a form of advertising. Probably unpaid, but that's subject to audit too. More candidates for prison. No wonder our prisons are so full. Hell, if everyone was put there that really OUGHT to be there, not only would our government collapse, but there might not be enough people left on the outside to guard the ones on the inside. Why is it that lately it seems like EVERYONE is out to "beat the system?" I blame the damned MBA programs. Everything gets reduced to a number, and to hell with ethics, sound business practice, and treating people fairly.

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                                                        jordan111 year, 7 months ago

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                                                        It's also illegal for government to disseminate propaganda through the media, but that hasn't stopped this administration. And our tax dollars paid the so called 'journalists' who did it for them.

                                                        http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/01/politics/01ed...

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                                                        redLineRunner1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                        Wouldnt this fall under "unfair TV time". When Mayor Autry (Fresno's Mayor) was running for re-election, they had to take reruns of "Into the Night" off the air due to the unfair tv-time laws. Is that just a local law, or federal?

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                                                          jovial1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                          I think it's a good case to consider.

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                                                          mindsurferwendy1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                          This can't be a good thing for McCain. Very, very few stories on Fox are uplifting, and in this particular example, wouldn't McCain's face be attached to the 'Message of Hate' that was being reported in the story that followed?

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                                                            djrevelky1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                            hahahahhaha

                                                            OMG! This story shows just how conspirary minded and looney you liberals are. Its FOX 5 NEWS! That is a local station in NYC, that IS NOT Fox News Channel.

                                                            *sigh*

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                                                              tchef1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                              Fox 5 is also the local in DC. And how many other Fox affiliates are around this country.

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                                                                djrevelky1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                Well...actually if you could read, you would see it plainly says on the Screen

                                                                "WNYW-TV/WNYW-DT

                                                                New York"

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                                                                  jovial1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                  Fox NY or Fox oklahoma; still FOX.

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                                                                    BronxBomber1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                    It's all a conglomeration.

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                                                              pc251 year, 7 months ago

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                                                              http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Psychology/...

                                                              Subliminals*

                                                              Science or Myth?

                                                              Time will tell if, 5 or 10 or 20 years from now, some new researchers will need to write articles similar to the ones we wrote 6 years ago to alert the public to the fact that no scientific evidence is available showing that subliminal stimulation can significantly influence human motivation and behavior.

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                                                                dunkirk1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                thanks for the BLOG. Enter www.rapidnet.com and you;re redirected to www.goldenwest.com. MORE rock solid proof. ROFLMAO

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                                                                  jovial1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                  Business people don't agree. This conference was held recently and you might be surprised at the results.

                                                                  http://www.bizcovering.com/Marketing-and-Advert...

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                                                                    jordan111 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                    CONS have the best in marketing and advertising on their payroll.

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                                                                  not2needy1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                  Sneaky bastards!

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                                                                    slate1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                    Oh the Horror!

                                                                    I'd rather have news where the casts say "I get a tingle up me leg for Obama".

                                                                    Oh he is sooo sexy and handsome! Sigh,,,,,,

                                                                    Or where they openly ask Hillary to step down and allow the one they 'tingle' over to take his rightful place in history! Who the heck needs subliminal messages?

                                                                    You guys are funny.

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                                                                      jovial1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                      Jealousy, don't want the bad talk around me.

                                                                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_5LCahG3Wo

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                                                                        WildWes991 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                        Catchy tune Jovial!

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                                                                          jovial1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                          Billboard Club-Magsaysay Dr. Philippines 1987. Single and a cherry boy. Brings back memories.

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                                                                        slate1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                        Jealous Jo Jo?

                                                                        Nope, I'm just pointing out the truth. You are whining about this and you don't even have proof that it's real or not. But you have no problem with overt schoolgirl infatuation of Obama by your fav TV news cast.

                                                                        Hip Hop Hippity Hop,,,, nice tune,,,,, wrong idea,, and way off base on your analysis of my post

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                                                                          jovial1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                          Maybe you're angry as well. You need to get Mad. Mad as hell!

                                                                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dib2-HBsF08

                                                                          I want you get up out of your chair and go to your window, stick your head out and scream. "I'm as mad as hell, I'm not going to take this anymore!"

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                                                                            slate1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                            I think you need to take your out ya butt,,,, I'm not even close to being mad, but it seems you on the left are paranoid.

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                                                                        markmawn21 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                        Do you think this was an accident?

                                                                        http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/02/20/cnn-al...

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                                                                          slate1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                          LOL

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                                                                            jovial1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                            No, it wasn't even subliminal. It was Rovian guerilla warfare. An accepted tactic of conservatives.

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                                                                            markmawn21 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                            Yet another.

                                                                            http://rawstory.com/news/2006/CNN_comments_on_O...

                                                                            Folks, if you have any advertising experience you would know that point of purchase marketing is extremely effective. It touches you just below your awareness, so that is why it is still employed today. These are deliberate acts. Often they go unnoticed by the editorial depts and can often be placed there by staffers below the management's radar (often as a joke). Sometimes it is paid for as subliminal advertising.

                                                                            Anybody remember seeing the pictures of the enormous dong in a simple tab of melting butter back in the 70's?

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                                                                              markmawn21 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                              Is this an innocent McDonalds sign?

                                                                              http://i2.tinypic.com/25ywzls.jpg

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                                                                                WildWes991 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                Yes, I will take fries with that, but please... none of that "special" sauce!

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                                                                                  BronxBomber1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                  Best hold that "pickle"

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                                                                                    Shadowolf1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                    YOU hold it!!!

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                                                                                  jovial1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                  Old Macdonald had a farm...

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                                                                                    markmawn21 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                    Baaah! Baaah!

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                                                                                      BronxBomber1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                      & the sheep were nervous....

                                                                                      :o/

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                                                                                        scott42611 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                        LOL!!!

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                                                                                TheSatyr1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                Looked like a lousy cut and paste job on the video...with 14 minutes missing.

                                                                                Somebody trying to make Fox look bad...well worse than usual.

                                                                                Just people seeing conspiracy theories where they don't exist...on the other hand maybe there is one...against McCain and Fox.

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                                                                                  Goppy1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                  I am pretty stunned at this.

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                                                                                    BronxBomber1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                    We noticed it by you're correct spelling, and grammar Goppy.

                                                                                    ;o)

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                                                                                    ADAGUY1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                    Perhaps Faux should change its logo from "We report, you decide" to

                                                                                    "We distort, you comply!"

                                                                                    Seems fitting!

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                                                                                      Tcaros1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                      This is a ridiculous article. Let's lighten it up.

                                                                                      Here's a clip of Rumsfeld caught in a lie, what a character he was:

                                                                                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnNiW1_bUFE&feat...

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                                                                                        jovial1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                        Rumsfeld is a liar, but they will protect him as vehemently as they protect their Fox News network. Sorry for the neg. I watched that subliminal message too many times.

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                                                                                          BronxBomber1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                          I'm not, I negged you for personal reasons.

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                                                                                        eugenegerard1 year, 7 months ago

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                                                                                        FLUSH FOX

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                                                                                          markoller1 year, 6 months ago

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                                                                                          On thing is certain: the McCain campaign and Republicans at Fox had nothing to do with this. Most subliminal advertising has no effect whatsoever, and flashing McCain's imagae on the Fox logo is not going to change a single vote. It was a prank by someone who does not like the Fox Network or John McCain.

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