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Posted By ProudBlueTexan 1 year, 7 months ago in NewsWASHINGTON - President Bush said Tuesday he was disappointed in "flawed intelligence" before the Iraq war and was concerned that if a Democrat wins the presidency in November and withdrew troops prematurely it could "eventually lead to another attack on the United States."
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ProudBlueTexan1 year, 7 months ago
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One more time for emPHAsis:
President Bush said Tuesday he was disappointed in "flawed intelligence" before the Iraq war and was concerned that if a Democrat wins the presidency in November and withdrew troops prematurely it could "eventually lead to another attack on the United States."
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hyperbola1 year, 7 months ago
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One more time for emphasis. Bush is STILL lying to Americans. Here is the CIA agent who gave the daily national security briefings to Reagan.
Proof Bush Deceived America
James Risen's State of War: the Secret History of the CIA and the Bush Administration, may hold bigger secrets than the disclosure that President George W. Bush authorized warrantless eavesdropping on Americans.
Risen's book also confirms the most damning element of the British Cabinet Office memos popularly called the "Downing Street memos;" namely, that "the intelligence and the facts were being fixed around the policy." The result is it is no longer credible to maintain that the failures in the Iraqi intelligence were the product of a broken intelligence community. The Bush administration deliberately fabricated the case against Iraq, lying to Congress and the American people along the way....
http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2006/01/13/pro...
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hyperbola1 year, 7 months ago
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Proof Bush Fixed The Facts
... Actually, politicization is far too mild a word for what happened. The intelligence was not simply mistaken; it was manufactured, with the president of the United States awarding foreman George Tenet the Medal of Freedom for his role in helping supervise the deceit. The British documents make clear that this was not a mere case of "leaning forward" in analyzing the intelligence, but rather mass deceptionâ;;an order of magnitude more serious. No other conclusion is now possible....
http://www.tompaine.com/articles/proof_bush_fix...
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hyperbola1 year, 7 months ago
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Study: Bush, other officials issued hundreds of false statements before Iraq invasion
WASHINGTON: A study by two nonprofit journalism organizations found that President Bush and top administration officials issued hundreds of false statements about the national security threat from Iraq in the two years following the 2001 terrorist attacks.
The study concluded that the statements "were part of an orchestrated campaign that effectively galvanized public opinion and, in the process, led the nation to war under decidedly false pretenses."
The study was posted Tuesday on the Web site of the Center for Public Integrity, which worked with the Fund for Independence in Journalism....
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/01/23/ameri...
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ProudBlueTexan1 year, 7 months ago
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To make my position clear:
The 'flawed intel' bushCo refers to was A PACK OF LIES PERPETRATED ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BY THE WHITE HOUSE, and the quickest way to precipitate another attack on US soil, is to LEAVE NEOCON, rEPUBLICAN, gop policy in place. In other words:
Obama '08
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jordan111 year, 7 months ago
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What does 'flawed intelligence' mean? The intelligence THEY manipulated to make their case? The "mushroom cloud" BULL SH*T AFTER they were informed there was no evidence to substantiate the claim that those metal tubes were used for nuke material? The evidence that SCIENTISTS gave the morons that those metal tubes couldn't hold nuke material? WTF IS HE BABBLING ABOUT?
IRAQ DID NOT ATTACK US!!!!!!!! PULLING OUT OF IRAQ WILL NOT LEAD TO AN ATTACK ON US!!! If 'terrorists' have plans, it won't matter if we're in Iraq or not, they're going to attack us! We have let our infrastructure go unprotected for SEVEN FREAKING YEARS! People with bad intentions have had plenty of time to bring in their weapons. Bush is pulling out the worn fear card, and anyone who believes it is as nutty as he is!
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greenmac1 year, 7 months ago
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AG/Tang when are you going to wake up and smell the roses. GWB was and is the worst thing that has ever happened to the USA in modern history. AG your quote about about him finding the lord is enough to make me sick...this is a man that uses religion not has religion. Tis type of statement reflects badly on religion when it comes from a man like Bush.
Tang can you show me where Bush has made the uS and the world a better place?
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CRYMTYPHON1 year, 7 months ago
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Yes, sure, the 4 Carter years were dark times indeed for American. Uhm, not a war or watergate or anything interesting, but dark, dark times. Disco music and shouting in the streets.
And they say whenever Carter builds a house for Habitat for Humanity, the milk sours too fast! Definitely evil.
And his running around monitoring elections in the 3rd world gives the US the bad reputation of wanting to try to bring democracy to the masses. Evil, Evil.
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Endoscopy1 year, 7 months ago
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We had stagflation after Ford had cut the inflation rate by vetoing every extra spending bill in sight. Carter raised taxes and spent everything he could. He put the current government in Iran in place because he didn't like the Shah. He was inept in foreign affairs making even friends angry. The list just goes on and on. Bad foreign and bad domestic. I had my best raises under him just to keep even with inflation.
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CRYMTYPHON1 year, 7 months ago
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We had inflation, because we were paying the bill and the interest, on nine years of war, just like -
Hmm. I assumed you were just desperatly flailing for a red herring, but you may have a point.
There is a certain connection between those long ago days and now.
Paying for the war.
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miklkit1 year, 7 months ago
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A few facts.....
http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/faq.html
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Endoscopy1 year, 7 months ago
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Yes. So peaceful he put Iran's present government in power. They returned the favor by taking the embassy and holding the personnel captive for as long as he was president.
He currently goes to terrorists and talks with them. He lays a wreath on the grave of another terrorist. This despite the FACT that these terrorists ONLY avowed aim is to wipe out the Jews.
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Endoscopy1 year, 7 months ago
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The Ayatollah Khomeinei was living in exile in France until Dear Jimmy helped bring down the Shah of Iran and put Ayatollah Khomeinei in power. He returned the favor by taking over the embassy and holding the embassy people as hostages. You seem to forget your history. The embassy people were returned within a few of days of Reagan taking office. No time for a deal.
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Beau78901 year, 7 months ago
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There is PLENTY that shows Reagan was making promises to the Ayatollah while the election was winding down, while insisting he shouldn't release the hostages until AFTER Reagan took office. Do you really think it took only a few days to negotiated the hostages' release?
Here's just one link:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=...
Aside from that, do you remember Iran/Contra? The hearings in Congress under which Oliver North was convicted of trading arms to Iran, unbeknownst to Congress, contrary to U.S. law?
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/reagan/peopleevent...
Perhaps YOU need to study up on your history.
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Beau78901 year, 7 months ago
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DEBUNKED?!?!?
You're obviously impervious to truth. But just keep telling yourself you're right, even when faced with incontrovertible evidence. It's okay, the world really is flat. We are at the center of the universe. The solar system revolves around us. And Bush is looking out for your best interests.
Forget the hostage situation, though you've offered absolutely no evidence to show it's been debunked as you claim.
Let's talk about Iran-Contra. Who debunked this and when?
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Will13131 year, 7 months ago
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here's the link let the community decide who the liar is..
you get to me... LOL.. not a chance..
http://news.propeller.com/story/2008/05/01/-ira...
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Will13131 year, 7 months ago
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The major problem with rape stories is that some of them are bogus. The woman is really angry with the man and wants to punish him. This makes it hard to know the real facts. The Duke case is an example. When it really happens the attacker should be put under the jail.
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truthiness1 year, 7 months ago
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recently a story was posted on propeller which was an interview with a man named Kay, who was in charge of following up on the WMD intelligence in Iraq after the invasion.
in this interview he stated that (paraphrase) due to his inability to find any confirmation of any of the intelligence he began to investigate the source of the intelligence.
he discovered that an iraqi defector, code named curveball, had been held by german intelligence and this was the source of the intelligence. no one outside german intelligence had been allowed access to the defector. even when asked by the CIA. this was the only source of intelligence for WMDs in Iraq.
my conclusions: a) since none of the intelligence proved true..he was lied to. b) starting a war based on one unconfirmed source is at minimum criminal negligence.
disappointed... are you kidding me? tell all the dead people how disappointed you are.
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Endoscopy1 year, 7 months ago
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LOL
You obviously haven't kept up on the real source of the WMD story. Hussein was having the data created to keep Iran from attacking. He convinced all intelligence agencies of it. Intelligence agencies will never accept one point of contact for any story. They have to have multiple sources. Hussein was one of the few who could cause that to happen.
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truthiness1 year, 7 months ago
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actually, I am saying that the credibility of a former operative who released info damaging to the people he had sworn an oath to (the italian government)in order to embarrass the people he felt were responsible for his looking bad (the US government)is somewhat questionable.
btw, the story of the italian spy is that he was told to circulate bad info in order to prop up the story that iraq had WMDs with out knowing that it was bad info. He said that the source of that info was a western operative.
which doesn't really contradict the kay story in any way.
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markmawn21 year, 7 months ago
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"One of the keys to being seen as a great leader is to be seen as commander in chief. My father had all this political capital built up when he drove the Iraqis out of Kuwait and he wasted it. If I have a chance to invade, if I had that much capital, I'm not going to waste it. I'm going to get everything passed that I want to get passed and I'm going to have a successful presidency."
Governor Bush to his biographer and friend in 1999
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icono11 year, 7 months ago
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FTA:
"And so I would call them stalled. I would call them, so far, good at verbiage and not so good at results."
Nuff said.
I hear that when Comrade OBama, a person very good at verbage, gets into office he will 'talk' to all the antagonists and make everything ok.
Because it is 'all just a simple misunderstanding' for as the line goes in the song Stair Way To Heaven...."sometimes words have two meanings."
An by the way when has our intelligence community ever known anything about anything for sure other than the fact they know they don't know anything about anything for sure?
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walden31 year, 7 months ago
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It's not right to play golf while the country is at war!?!?!?!
I'm really concerned that President Bush is unbalanced. I don't think he is mentally capable of being president. After he leaves office I bet we see evidence that he became unhinged during his presidency. I mean his well-known outbursts (google it yourself), his choking on a pretzel, the unwanted backrubs to other heads of state, the inappropriateness of his comments, the stupid insulting nicknames, asking blind people to remove their dark glasses, belittling reporters, his interest in baseball and clearing brush, the jokes he made about WMD at the correspondent's dinner, the way he dances. I could go on, but I won't.
I'm telling ya, the boy is a 1/2 bubble off of plumb.
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Wolfie20071 year, 7 months ago
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The truth is we went to Iraq, took the country, deposed Saddam, and looks like the terrorist and the insurgents are losing and leaving. Now we have to go back to Afghanistan to clear that out since NATO wasn't capable of going it alone.
Now with Iraq and Afghanistan we have Iran in a squeeze play. No wonder the Iranis want us to leave. Those of you who fear a war with Iran well it's a lot less likely to happen with our present position today. Iran will not want to go to war with the US unless we vacate the area.
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CRYMTYPHON1 year, 7 months ago
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Terrorists and insurgents in Iraq weren't our problem until we 'took the country'.
And we don't have Iran in a squeeze play. We have a thin string of troops along their border. That is a recipe for disaster.
We cannot occupy the middle east.
We should not be trying.
You are playing a 'Risk' board game.
It is getting people killed, turning the world against us, and bankrupting our economy.
It increases the total number of people in the world who see us as the enemy.
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pmcluver1 year, 7 months ago
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Bush wanted to go to Iraq-- period. Whatever his motives (Saddam, revenge for Dad, oil) that is a fact and was reported by his advisers. He took the 9/11 incident, that had nothing to do with Iraq and produced a campaign to indelibly link 9/11 to Iraq in the minds of almost all Americans; indeed there are some who still believe it.
Anybody who reads this article and thinks he was mislead by intelligence after the PERFORMANCE by Colin Powell at the UN, is -- words like moron and retard come to mind.
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Tangent0011 year, 7 months ago
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The conquest of Iraq was a plank of the PNAC platform well before 9/11. I don't buy that 9/11 was an inside job, but it was certainly a convenient kernel around which a case against Saddam could be built. And built it was!
The question of pre-war 'who-knew-... probably won't be sufficiently answered for years. What IS clear is that there was a big push for making Iraq part of the 'War on Terror'. When that failed, Saddam's WMDs became the rallying cry. Personally, I think Congress (both Rs and Ds) authorized the use of force against Iraq as a way to give teeth to our demand that Iraq comply with UN resolutions. What sense would it make to enter into another war when finding Bin Laden and his ilk was CLEARLY the national priority. Bush took that authorization and ran with it! He had a blank check and a big red pen.
Resources were pulled away from the 'War on Terror' and into Iraq instead.
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LFunches1 year, 7 months ago
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If it were not so dangerous it would be tragic. This president and His cronies heve spent six years scaring the hell out of naive people who are blibd enough to believe what they say. In the bname of "National Security" they have tossed out the constitution and commited acts that would otherwise land them in jail. Now here he comes again with the same, tired old mantra of "fear". If we keep selling fear to the peope they won't have time to think about losing their jobs, they wwon't have time to see how their buying power is shrinking. Pump enough fear into them and they will even overlook the mess he and his rich friends have made of the UIS economy. Bush is pathetic and he needs to quietly sit out his days and then leave us the hell alone.
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scott42611 year, 7 months ago
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"A question submitted from the online audience asked Bush whether he felt he had been misled about Iraq as he made the decision to go to war.
"'"Misled" is a strong word,' he said. 'Not only our intelligence community, but intelligence communities all across the world shared the same assessment. And so I was disappointed to see how flawed our intelligence was.'
"'Do I think somebody lied to me? No, I don't. I think it was just, you know, they analyzed the situation and came up with the wrong conclusion,' he added."
This such bulls**t! This is intelligence that his administation manipulated to fit his flimsy case to start this God-forsaken war!
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scott42611 year, 7 months ago
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"He acknowledged concerns about leaving the unfinished Iraq war to a Democratic successor. Both Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton have said they will bring troops home if elected.
"Bush said his 'doomsday scenario of course is that extremists throughout the Middle East would be emboldened, which would eventually lead to another attack on the United States.'"
This man is nuts! If anything, the "doomsday scenario" he speaks is MUCH more likely to happen if hothead John McCain is elected President!
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scott42611 year, 7 months ago
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"..Asked if [global warming] was real, Bush said, 'Yes, it is real, sure is.' Still, he defended his opposition to the Kyoto treaty on climate change. 'I could have supported a lousy treaty and everybody would have went, "Oh, man, what a wonderful-sounding fellow he is." But it just wouldn't have worked.'"
Again, MORE bulls**t! He opposed the Kyoto treaty for one reason and one reason only: because he KNEW it would counter his plans for big profits from the oil industry....pure and simple!
My God, I will not rest 'til this dumbass is OUT of the White House!
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