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Posted By SunnyDays 1 year, 1 month ago in NewsThe Democratic presidential race runs on two tracks now, one snaking through the West Virginia primary Tuesday and the other mapped out by Barack Obama through battleground states in the fall.
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rightfromwrong1 year, 1 month ago
the Clinton's are desperate and "white trash". She is likely ducking all those sniper bullets.She has lied but then she said she mis-spoke....what a joke!!!!!
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nostalgia1 year, 1 month ago
You just have to wonder about all of the apologists that defended the Clinton's for 16 years and refused to open their eyes or honestly assess their actions and behavior
BOB HERBERT of the NYT really takes the Clinton's to task
The Clintons have never understood how to exit the stage gracefully.
He can't win! Don't you understand? He's black! He's black!
The Clintons have been trying to embed that gruesomely destructive message in the brains of white voters and superdelegates for the longest time. It's a grotesque insult to African-Americans, who have given so much support to both Bill & Hillary over the years.
The last time the Clintons had to make a big exit was at the end of Bill's 2nd term as president â;; and they made a complete and utter hash of that historic moment. Having survived the Monica Lewinsky ordeal, you might have thought the Clintons would be on their best behavior.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/10/opinion/10her...
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ETproductions1 year, 1 month ago
nostalgia wrote: "The Clintons have never understood how to exit the stage gracefully."
Anybody remember the Black Knight skit from "Monty Python And The Holy Grail"?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eMkth8FWno&feat...
Somebody should do a Hillary Clinton voice-over for the bit. It's a perfect fit. It'd be a sure hit on YouTube.com
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StarLord1 year, 1 month ago
Why shouldn't they continue until August?
Until Obama actually has 2,025 delegates in his pocket, there is always the chance of an 11th-hour reprieve.
Should the Clintons refuse to help AFTER August, in the general campaign, that's a different story. Before the DNC, it's about securing hte nomination. After the DNC, it's about party unity.
P.S. Why did Obama run, if he's so big on party unity? Before he put his hat into the ring (and for sometime after), Clinton was the clear frontrunner in all the polls, and would have easily coasted to a nomination sans his interference.
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getreal11 year, 1 month ago
The News media were the first to categorize and label people. Every time any reporter gets on the news he has to tell what kind of voter is supposed to vote what. He uses race and e.t.c. to tell his specifics. Hillary has only been repeating what the news media has been projecting to every American citizen. Shame on you, news Media for thinking that People can not see through you too. Does it really bother the News Media and the NEW YORK TIMES that all votes should be voted? Who is it, trashing the constitution now?
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DropkickaLib1 year, 1 month ago
Actually, if you look at voter statistics Obama's support is heavily weighted in favor of African-Americans and the Leftist intelligencia. Over 90% of African-Americans in North Carolina voted for him.
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getreal11 year, 1 month ago
What is more important the principals of the constitution for which we stand or the black race using color as a crutch for everything when they can't get their way. If the black race wishes to be recognized as equal then they must stand up and become equal. This country and the problems it has right now is where they should focus their attention. Obama is of a mixed race. If he means to have the two become equal he must stop the black race from using racism as the reason for everything. One would think that the black race was the only one ever discriminated against.
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cushi1 year, 1 month ago
If anyone in this country has used color, it has been the caucausian race. They used it enslave people, they used it to pass unfair laws, to deny voting rights, to dispense unequal education and unequal justice, to promote separation and division instead of unity in the "United" States. They have a well documented history of making differences based on both race and class, and of elevating themselves to a stature (in their own minds) above others.
You have the nerve to accuse blacks of using the "race" card, when whites are the very ones who invented it and have milked it for all it's worth across the years.
Blacks are voting for the candidate of their choice, which is their right, whether you like it or not. They don't need your approval.
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cushi1 year, 1 month ago
You know what trips me out? Every time Shrillary points out that her main base is uneducated blue collar workers and the elderly. In one foul swoop, she is calling her backers ignorant and old, yet they don't seem to pick up on the fact that they are being insulted. On the other hand, McCain gets all bent because Obama says he's losing his bearings, and the easily swayed voters in PA flocked to Hillary because Obama rightly stated that some of them were "bitter" and cling to their religion (aren't we believers supposed to do just that?)! Some people are so easily had!
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joeblowe1 year, 1 month ago
It's kind of funny the way the MSM manipulates people. They talk about how "race ISN'T a factor!", or maybe "IS race a factor?", or "so-and-so CLAIMS that race is (or is NOT) a factor" - and really, until the MSM brought it up in this sneaky way - NO ONE was even thinking about it in those terms. And - honestly - bigots have their "minds" made up ahead of time and there is NO WAY to change them, so what's the point of even TALKING about race? Either way you look at it, it is totally irrelevant. Except as a newsless news story.
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ETproductions1 year, 1 month ago
Pretty amazing the "depth" of coverage of today's putrid MSM. Like it really took an investigative reporter months of research to come up with the fact that Obama's dad was black.
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getreal11 year, 1 month ago
Let me give you an example of something Cushi. During one of my breaks in the break room at work, we were in a discussion about several new positions becoming available. There were three white workers to about seven black workers in there. This one black lady pop up and told us all that if she didn't get the position she wanted she was going to scream race discrimination on basis of being black. Even tho I didn't say anything one of the other black ladies in the break room, told her in front of me, that she was the very reason that racism stays alive. I feel sorry for her, She doesn't know that she has her currant position because she is smart. Race had nothing to do with the first step she got on the ladder. The news Media is responsible for the many classifications of Americans and then you have people with inferiority complexes that aid the issue. I see this Mr. Herbert with the NYT as having one, the Reverent Wright as another.
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Georgia501 year, 1 month ago
A black female co-worker who came in the office one day where some of us (all whites) were. She joined in and said, "I'm telling you black females are the most prejudiced people I know." We asked what prompted that. She had just left a huddle of black females where one said, "I like listening to Dr. Laura." Another responded, "Eeew...I would never listen to her...she's white and she's a Jew."
A black friend called me up, perplexed. He interviewed for a position and was told "the slot's going to a black person regardless." His problem was that he wanted the position on merit, not race. I said, "Look, it's not your thing, and you are clearly qualified. Your decision should be, is this the next best step in your career, yes or no. If it is--and they offer you the job--take it. They are thinking about them. You have to worry about you." He took it, and I don't blame him. But I do blame a system that renders black achievement meaningless.
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CRYMTYPHON1 year, 1 month ago
Why does my vessel have a soul?
And where is it being guided to? Why does it need a guide?
And is this the kind of vessel that looks like a boat, or a bottle?
And is the soul of my vessel the same as my soul? And if so, am I the vessel? In which case, is it the vessel or the soul that asks these questions?
Finaly, what the heck does that have to do with Hillary Clinton?
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joeblowe1 year, 1 month ago
Who cares? Stick a fork in her ... she's done. (Unless, of course, the super delegates really ARE involved in a conspiracy to overlook the popular vote and present Hillary ANYWAY. Not impossible.)
On a more interesting note, the AOL/Netscape straw poll from the Netscape home page is currently showing Ron Paul running just about EVEN with John McCain. I know it doesn't really count for anything and may be totally manipulated, but still.... interesting.
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newbie04201 year, 1 month ago
"(Unless, of course, the super delegates really ARE involved in a conspiracy to overlook the popular vote and present Hillary ANYWAY. Not impossible.)"
If I were a super delegate and wanted the Democratic party to have it's best chance to win I would be voting for Hillary.
According to most polls, she has McCain beat by ten points (or more) in Ohio where McCain has Obama beat by one point.
24 out of the last 26 Presidents have won Ohio, factor in Pennsylvania and other "swing" states and it's obvious who has the better chance in the general election.
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getreal11 year, 1 month ago
Joeblowe The only real thing I want of a leader is truth and fairness for the People and prosperity for this nation. I don't see that coming.
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raza91 year, 1 month ago
The Great and Secret Show. The Illusion of difference. The Illusion of change. Let the games begin! Facts: McCain, Hilary and Obama all voted FOR the 'war', they all voted FOR the 'patriot act', and they all voted FOR Nafta. All their top campaign contributors are mainly Big Business. They ALL rub elbows with corporate lobbyists and are ALL are affiliated with the CFR. If you don't know much about the council on foreign relations,I implore you to do some research. The ONLY candidate that voted against all the aforementioned policies and is NOT affiliated with the CFR and whose donors were mostly from regular men/women in the military is the candidate being kept backstage by both parties and the media. For he is a shining star indeed, and will actually promote REAL CHANGE. He has the answer to 1884, and it is 1776...Restore the Republic, Restore the Constitution...Vote (or at least research) Ron Paul.
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getreal11 year, 1 month ago
I think the candidates know in order to achieve prosperity for this nation that they will have to go against their parties to do it. After all it is their party members that stand to loose if the trade and tariff policies are changed. too quickly and they may go broke.
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MilesAway1 year, 1 month ago
YES. RON POUL!!! But, unfortunately GOOD people always "die" early.
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IanFraigun1 year, 1 month ago
What planet do you get your information from. Those three things occured before Obama was in the US Congress and thus he could not vote on any of them contrary to your statements.
I would never vote for anyone supported by someone of your total lack of actual knowledge of these key subjects. If you know so little your candidate probably knows even less.
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StarLord1 year, 1 month ago
FACT: Obama was not in the US Senate in 2003. Therefore couldn't vote either way. AND he condemned the war from Day One (one of the few things I like about him).
FACT: Clinton has openly opposed the conduct of the war, and claims to have been misled on the intel of the WMDs.
FACT: Dr Paul was the editor of a white supremacist magazine. As far as he's concerned, a lack of state interference means a return to the "good old days" of Manchester cotton-mill-style laissez-faire capitalism, where the rich grow ever richer, and the poor ever poorer.
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CRYMTYPHON1 year, 1 month ago
If Obama gets the nomination ( as he will ) Hillary will ask you to support him, as you would have supported her.
She's tough.
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fempatriot1 year, 1 month ago
Back during the Watergate hearings, 27 year old Hillary Clinton was fired from her job for unethical legal behavior. She decided to ignore the Constitution and legal precedent because of her bias against Richard Nixon. I have the feeling she's ignored the Constition several times in her checkered career. We certainly don't need a Queen Hillary riding roughshod over what little protection the founding fathers gave us. Plus, a female is not going to be able to get anywhere with the Muslim countries...at this time. Barak Obama has the best chance of getting us out of some of the messes Geo. Bush, Dick Cheney, and Congress have gotten us in.
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getreal11 year, 1 month ago
Or he can swap us in to more messes. You know those superdelegates have a price. Mainly in their interest. Not of the people or this nation wouldn't be in the mess it is in.
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obiefrommuskogee1 year, 1 month ago
Hillary seems delusional at this point. I don't think we need another delusional aggressive war monger in the White House.
"Suffering Succotash, let's obliterate Iran!"
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StarLord1 year, 1 month ago
Provide evidence, please.
Hillary Clinton helped to draft the proceedings of impeachment against Nixon, by researching hte historical precedents of impeachment attempts.
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CRYMTYPHON1 year, 1 month ago
fempatriot said:
"Plus, a female is not going to be able to get anywhere with the Muslim countries...at this time"
Fempatriot, you are making us look bad among the muslims, by speaking in a forum for serious male discussion.
Please return to the place and century where women are women-like. We men-folk will handle it from here.
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raza91 year, 1 month ago
JohnQ:
A couple of excellent resources that I've found helpful.
THOMAS (Library of Congress)
www.votesmart.org
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taciturnman1 year, 1 month ago
The News media were the first to categorize and label people. Every time any reporter gets on the news he has to tell what kind of voter is supposed to vote what. He uses race and e.t.c. to tell his specifics. http://www.youtube.com/user/BestBedroomFurniture Hillary has only been repeating what the news media has been projecting to every American citizen. Shame on you, news Media for thinking that People can not see through you too. Does it really bother the News Media and the NEW YORK TIMES that all votes should be voted? Who is it, trashing the constitution now?
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CRYMTYPHON1 year, 1 month ago
It would be interesting.
How do you raise collective eyebrows?
Is it all at once, on the count of 1,2,3?
Is it one giant, hairy eyebrow? How much would it weigh?
Whichever wins the nomination will have the support of the other. No one is going to dwell long on the numbers.
The war must end; the economy rescued, America restored to an honest country.
That is what counts to Obama, and to Hillary.
Believe it.
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IanFraigun1 year, 1 month ago
There is no way Hillary can win the popular vote without counting the one state where she was the only one to violate party rules and leave her name on the ballot. Even 100% vote in the remaining states and she still loses the popular vote total. And of course don't forget at least two of those will probably go Obama big time.
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lum-chate1 year, 1 month ago
That's just a dumb statement.
"Even 100% vote in the remaining states and she still loses the popular vote total."
There is over 5,000,000 votes to be counted in the remaining primaries, where did you hear Clinton was 5,000,000 votes behind?
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StarLord1 year, 1 month ago
1. Obama could ahve left his name on the ballot too, you know.
2. Obama's campaign encouraged people to vote "uncommitted".
3. Clinton beat "uncommitted" 55%-40%.
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unome21 year, 1 month ago
The funny thing about elections in America is it really doesn't matter who is elected President in that nothing is really going to change. The Republican and democratic partys will bring to us more of the same. Whether it's unjustified wars or unscrupled covert CIA operations or ridicules comodities crisises you can be asureed that the Dem-Repub- Cartel will be behind it. Sure , it would be easier listening to someone who can string a few words together and who is capable of forming a cohesive sentence and/or thought beyond "the terrorists are going to get you".
But lets be realistic , America is no longer ruled by its people, it is ruled by the international corporations that control our two party system. They care as much about you as they do the Chinese or South American worker.
There goal is not a Better world, but instead the consolidation of wealth into the hands of a few.
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HMMace1 year, 1 month ago
IF CLINTON MANAGES TO GET THE NOMINATION,, I SURE HOPE SHE SOES NOT OFFER THE VP TO OSAMA..
I DO NOT WANT TO SEE ANY MUSLIMS IN THE WHITE HOUSE,,AND HE HAS HALF A FAMILY OF THEM..AND--BY THE WAY --WHERE ARE THEY,,,ARE THEY THE ONES HE SAID HE DID NOT WANT TO OFFEND BY WEARING A LAPEL FLAG PIN??? OR WAS IT THE WEATHER MEN BOMBER??? OR HIS PREACHER WRIGHT??
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lum-chate1 year, 1 month ago
Someone whose father was a Kenyan Muslim & mother was an athiest, took advantage of the benefits this country affords & slowly plotted a political career in of all places Chicago. Clever & ambitious he networked with those who can expedite his political career. Toward that end he becomes a Christian entering the powerfull politically connected church of Reverend Wright not because he "saw the light" but because it was the politically expedient thing to do so
To get the seal of approval & rise thru the ranks his associations with Risko & Dorne & Ayres became apparent, not because he liked to rub-elbows with homegrown terrorists & snakes in the grass but because it was the politicall expedient thing to do so.
So he'll promise tummy tucks to fat people, sanity to the insane, wine to the wino's & wealth to the poor because it is the politically expedient thing to do so. If pigs could vote he'd offer "Jelly to the Pigs."
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MilesAway1 year, 1 month ago
Hey "HMMace" please do not 'scream' so loudly. Even here in China we can 'hear' your CHILDISH text.
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truthiness1 year, 1 month ago
since people still enjoy talking about his name and heritage, I thought it would be fun to explore a little. turns out his first name is hebrew, his middle name is arabic and his last name is original.
BARAK
Gender: Masculine
Usage: Biblical, Jewish
Other Scripts: ×;ָרָק (Hebrew)
Means "lightning" in Hebrew. This was the name of a military commander in the Old Testament.
HUSSEIN
Gender: Masculine
Usage: Arabic
Other Scripts: ØسÙ;Ù; (Arabic)
Variant transcription of HUSAYN
-Pet form of HASAN. Husayn ibn Ali (also called Al-Hussein) was the son of Ali and the grandson of the Prophet Muhammad. Al-Hasan was his older brother. The massacre of Husayn and his family caused the split between Shiite and Sunni Muslims, which continues to this day.
Sorry, we couldn't find surname facts for the Obama last name. Try using an alternate form of the name, or a different last name.
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StarLord1 year, 1 month ago
1. Obama himself is NOT a Moslem.
2. Obama's family is no more the issue than Clinton's is.
3. Please stop "shouting" - it gives me a digital headache.
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CRYMTYPHON1 year, 1 month ago
HMMACE:
one suspects you type in capitals because you are shouting furiously at your computer screen.
you disturb the other patients.
Ask one of the orderlies, to take you back to your room now.
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lum-chate1 year, 1 month ago
You have a good point. Suggesting to Hillary that the presidency will not be hers, is like "trying to take a fresh meaty bone away from a pitbull."
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StarLord1 year, 1 month ago
The implication of that statement crosses the border from slander to outright defamation. One neg from me.
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nikkibabe1 year, 1 month ago
The people voting for Hillary in W. VA are the same people who still hold that "blacks should be on a noose from a tree", don't read newspapers, only their religion sends them to Heaven and GOD. ......... and McCain lost to Mike Huckabee in the Republican primary. Mike Huckabee said he wants the Constitution changed to conform to the Bible.
Hey Hillary. Keep this state and its white trash to yourself. I am certain Obama does not need this to get his nomination.
Finally, Hillary and her "pit bull" can retire.
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lum-chate1 year, 1 month ago
' Hey Hillary. Keep this state and its white trash to yourself. I am certain Obama does not need this to get his nomination.'
The thinking coming across on your post is that Appalachia, with a preponderance of low income, less educated whites is not good enough for an effite snob like Obama to even step foot there, even give these citizens a cursory glance.
Looking down on your fellow Americans, a bad trait to harbor.
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quiteman1 year, 1 month ago
Sad to say but true.
Poor white working class in WV & PA, can you see why? They have been voting for the elite white candidate who don't give a dam about them motto keep them don't and dependent on me and they will vote for me every time.
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NoWayMan1 year, 1 month ago
is that why they played rev. wright over and over and over and over yet never put it into full context by playing the entire speech?
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nikkibabe1 year, 1 month ago
Quote:
"The thinking coming across on your post is that Appalachia, with a preponderance of low income, less educated whites is not good enough for an effite snob like Obama to even step foot there, even give these citizens a cursory glance."
That is correct. The same people voted for Bill Clinton twice and Bush twice. Both "Whites" who went there or even did not show up but their "skin color" got the votes.
If there is still "preponderance of low income, poor and less educated whites" then they are making a bad choice. I am sure Hillary will not be back there even, god forbid, wins the nomination and the election.
Obama did not campaign there as his skin color is not white and he did not want to be a hypocrite visiting the state for votes.
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lum-chate1 year, 1 month ago
Hey Einstein what do we obtain from that comment, there were plenty of states that voted for Bill Clinton twice & Bush twice. The problem for Obama is that it is a swing state and he can't win there!
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