Racist Incidents Give Some Obama Campaigners Pause »
Posted By Aidenag 1 year, 1 month ago in NewsFor all the hope and excitement Obama's candidacy is generating, some of his field workers, phone-bank volunteers and campaign surrogates are encountering a raw racism and hostility that have gone largely unnoticed -- and unreported -- this election season.
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scott42611 year, 1 month ago
This is no surprise to me. Just look at the vitriol expressed by the bigots residing on this site!
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Candida1 year, 1 month ago
scott4261: "This is no surprise to me."
To me neither. Two days ago some friends were guessing who the next president of the US would be. When they asked me, I said: McCain. "You are hoping for McCain?" they asked, shocked. "No, I'm afraid he will be the president," I said. In spite of all indications to the contrary, I don't think the US is ready to elect either a woman or a (half) black man. People claim that they are not prejudiced, but on election day the real feelings will come out.
I still hope though that I'm wrong.
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libsRfunny1 year, 1 month ago
"This is no surprise to me. Just look at the vitriol expressed by the bigots residing on this site!"
I couldn't agree more! Those Obama supporters are a surly lot ...
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8762....
"African-American superdelegates are being targeted, harassed and threatened," said Rep. Emanuel Cleaver II (D-Mo.), a superdelegate who has supported Clinton since August. Cleaver said black superdelegates are receiving "nasty letters, phone calls, threats they'll get an opponent, being called an Uncle Tom.
"This is the politics of the 1950s," he complained. "A lot of members are experiencing a lot of ugly stuff. They're not going to talk about it, but it's happening."
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Goppy1 year, 1 month ago
For us Christian Conservatives, wed be Okay with Obama if he repeated often that God is his co-pilot ... or that 'Jesus is the philosopher who most changed his life' ... liek GW.
See, we are okay givin a chance to a Master of Mediocrity, a Draft Dodger, a Cocaine Consumer, an Admitted Alcoholic ... those are all things we can forgive. After all, dont all them weaknesses prove that the love of Jesus can cure all?
Course, we dint know at the tiem that GW was fakin it.
Nevertheless, unless Obama convinces us hes a Born Again Christian ... and advertises it liek GW ... I doubt we will look past the color of his skin.
You got to think about he roots of this Political Party we invented knowed as the Christian Conservative Party. Only then will you understand.
Only then will the scales be lifted off your eyes.
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koranagirl1 year, 1 month ago
I really didn't get the story very much. Was the point that a European woman gets votes cuz she's not an African American man? Or was it that the dems should have a European man run so we can see if Obama is really discriminated against.
Maybe the WP also has to do a story on how a lot of guys in the locker room say she's just a c-word, w-word, b-word, I could go on and on with those. OMGss--there's more derrogatory terms for a woman than an African American you can't say.
My favorite is someone calling out to Hill "wash my shirt" and no one said boo, but you know if someone called out to Obama "shine my sh___", you'd have a mass inquiry.
Hill apparently gets comments like these all the time, and she deals with it.
But then again, women have to be tough, very tough, to survive in the world and not make a fuss about gender.
I bet Hill's had to make the coffee and do laundry many more times than Obama was called to do something lowly.
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mesodude1 year, 1 month ago
"Maybe the WP also has to do a story on how a lot of guys in the locker room say she's just a c-word, w-word, b-word, I could go on and on with those."
--I'm all for that...As long as they do a similar story centered on the soul-searing hatred many women feel towards her and mention some of the vile things I've heard women call her over the years too. Prejudice, bigotry, and hatred is not just between blacks and whites. Nor are these the only groups about which their are perceived double standards where the issue of prejudice is concerned.
Personally, I've long wondered why people who feel perfectly comfortable saying things like "blacks should just get over it" or "I never owned slaves" or that they could never vote for a black person wouldn't in a million years make such statements about someone who was Jewish.
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koranagirl1 year, 1 month ago
I mean, if you want to talk discrimination, it's a better bet we can all envision Hillary being responsible for groceries, laundry, doing dishes. Now maybe she has others do most of this for her lately, but no one would say boo if they saw it.
On the otherhand, I bet Obama either rarely changed a diaper or he balked at it.
Is this discrimination?
Just asking. If we can all envision Hillary doing more housework than Obama, and it's not an issue, then why is what's going on in this article any different?
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Dionys1 year, 1 month ago
You're making a good point in light of the sexism turned against Hillary not getting nearly as much coverage as Obama and racism. Then again McLame isn't getting as much coverage about his connections to that nutjob Hagee in comparison to Obama's coverage about Wright.
Sen. Clinton's gotten the crappy end of the media stick in comparison to Sen. Obama. They've been hyper-critical of her and let a *lot* pass for him. Especially when it comes down to specifics versus pie-in-the-sky idealism.
Now what's the solution? What's it say about the media (which we have to remember is a slightly right-of-center operation)?
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nostalgia1 year, 1 month ago
AND when Hillary mentioned that she is getting more support from white blue collar workers according to an AP story, everyone condemned her
It wasn't something that should be mentioned
As one pundit said "It's not something she should say"
Now we see the Washington Post reporting on something similar
Does everyone want to brush what is going on under the rug and pretend it doesn't happen?
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2sidestoeverything1 year, 1 month ago
Good find aidenag, very interesting article but not to surprising.
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TechnologyExpert1 year, 1 month ago
Unsurprising, though worrisome. I often wonder why we are the "United States" of America when in fact there is very little that unites many red / blue states, aside from the fact that most of the states are on the same continent.
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AbuAmirah1 year, 1 month ago
I'm not surprised on bit. Hell the racist, bigoted powers that be can attack the dude 2 ways. They can always play up the fact that he is black, never mind the fact that he pulled himself up with his bootstraps. Dude has worked hard his whole life and now its paying off. When I was a kid, i was told that if i studied hard and got a good education, then I would be president of the United States. When I told my dad that, he laughed and said that studying hard would allow me to have a good life and enjoy many things, but as far as being President, he said that they didn't call it the White House for no reason. A second avenue is Islamophobia. I heard on Good Morning America, that 15% of America still believes that he's a Muslim, even though he has stated time and time again that he isn't. If he wins the nomination, that will put America on stage. Are we really the bastion of racial tolerance? Or are we no better than the rest of the world?
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Mdiar1 year, 1 month ago
That 15% won't vote for Obama either way. I'd put it at those who know who they are voting for no matter what and, if Clinton falls out of the race, they will be forced to research Obama and find the facts. That number will shrink and it will basically be those who know they are voting McCain no matter what and don't bother to research the matter or watch debates.
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tkyrchncs1 year, 1 month ago
This stuff sounds pretty trivial. Shouting racial slurs at teenagers who are setting themselves up as targets (that is, they are CAMPAIGNING) seems to be the worst of it. As for the headquarters vandalism, there is no indication in the article or picture that it is any more racist than political, and unless there were unreported remarks in the bomb threats, well, Hill had bomb threats too. I'll bet everyone doing door-to-door in anyone's campaign has had the door slammed in his face. Seems to me that we have come a long way from lynchings and cross-burnings.
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mesodude1 year, 1 month ago
"As for the headquarters vandalism, there is no indication in the article or picture that it is any more racist than political, and unless there were unreported remarks in the bomb threats, well, Hill had bomb threats too."
--Hmm...That's a tough one. The spray painted message on the window references the Wright incident.
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cowboygrandpa1 year, 1 month ago
Racism exists no doubt.
Obamas going to face it. The question is.
Is the reason Obama is receiving these racist remarks and threats because some people sense he could really win. Do a good job and thereby disprove their unfounded racism?
That is how I see it. Now I don't know if he has enough experience. That has always been my one big doubt about him.
He is showing some strength and wisdom in what he is doing lately. Talking about McCain instead of Hillary so much.
I'm starting to like the way he is handling himself. If he continues and shows his maturity and wisdom I'll be more than glad to support the man.
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donald511 year, 1 month ago
...bet the Bush DoJ isn't keeping any record on such... probably just stonewalling same like all the reported contractor fraud and abuse out of both Iraq and Afghanistan! Under the Bushies, the VA didn't want to admit to veteran suicide increases either!
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Candida1 year, 1 month ago
not2needy: "Not surprising, yet i will say, i am surprised that there hasn't been more of it reported."
If there had been, he would have been accused of "playing the race card."
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Grrr1 year, 1 month ago
I have encountered the same line, though.
"He'll hand the country over to the blacks."
Some entity is disseminating this line en masse. I have run across it in passing just overhearing it in public places three or four times now. I honestly think that this is organized Klan activity. You guys on the coasts probably don't realize it much, but... they're still here. Unfortunately. And the more likely it becomes that he is the nominee, the more brazen they will become.
Watch for flyers. Report them. To Feds, not local authorities. Catch anybody disseminating, get their plates and descriptions. FIGHT BACK! Stop it as soon as you see signs of it in your community.
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raza91 year, 1 month ago
I wouldn't care if the damn president was purple, so long as he/she is a GOOD pres. McHilama, all voted FOR the 'war', all voted FOR the 'patriot act' and all voted FOR Nafta. They are all affiliated with the CFR. *shudders* If you don't know much about the council on foreign relations do some research. They all rub elbows with corporate lobbyists and all take money from Big Business. These are facts but don't take my word for it. As they say, money talks and BS walks. Research the top campaign contributors of all the candidates, all four. That's right Ron Paul is still in the race, much to the dismay of the establishment. Anyways research the top campaign donors, do it now. Do you see? See who Big Business supports? See who the regular men/women in the military support? Who will you support and most importantly, ask yourself why?
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mesodude1 year, 1 month ago
But Ron Paul supported every single one of Bush's outrageously irresponsible tax cuts and he voted against SCHIP while he and his family get taxpayer subsidized health insurance. Even though McCain flipflopped on tax cuts, at least he was against them before he was for them. ;-( Not that I'm defending McCain-god no. I just meant that he at least had a conscience (once) where tax cuts are concerned.
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jordan111 year, 1 month ago
This will help you to get Obama's perspective on the Patriot Act, show the changes initiated in its renewal, and the fight in Congress to give it some oversight. You have to scroll down to find it.
http://www.nwotruth.com/obama-on-the-reauthoriz...
And it's worth repeating that Obama wasn't in Congress to vote for this 'war', but is on record for being against it before the vote.
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donald511 year, 1 month ago
...but conservatism and the Bible (as read by Evangelicals) dictates that everyone should know their place... contrary to the Constitution we have all pledged to support and obey.
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newbie04201 year, 1 month ago
My mother and little brother went to DC last week. My brother was wearing a McCain t-shirt on the train and after receiving some rather dirty looks a black lady came over to him and said:
"You'd better put on your jacket, when in Rome...."
My brother being a smarta$$ said:
"This ain't Rome lady, maybe that's why Rome fell."
Imagine the outcry of racism had it been a train packed with rich white folk who support McCain and a white lady told a black kid to cover an Obama t-shirt.
The racist double standard in this country is, well, sickening.
Funniest thing is he was sitting next to my mother who was wearing an Obama t-shirt.
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taciturnman1 year, 1 month ago
This stuff sounds pretty trivial. Shouting racial slurs at teenagers who are setting themselves up as targets (that is, they are CAMPAIGNING) seems to be the worst of it. http://www.youtube.com/user/BuyBedroomFurniture As for the headquarters vandalism, there is no indication in the article or picture that it is any more racist than political, and unless there were unreported remarks in the bomb threats, well, Hill had bomb threats too. I'll bet everyone doing door-to-door in anyone's campaign has had the door slammed in his face. Seems to me that we have come a long way from lynchings and cross-burnings.
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donald511 year, 1 month ago
...it just bugs the heck out of automan that other whites aren't as biggotted as he is!
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mesodude1 year, 1 month ago
Urm...Even if that were the case, that would be considered favoritism, not racism. But nice try anyway... ;-)
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ETproductions1 year, 1 month ago
With a KKK alive and well, with all the racism buried in the "reporting" of the MSM, is anyone surprised?
If we are ever to become the United States of America, this is what we must confront and overcome.
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Mdiar1 year, 1 month ago
I don't believe the race is as racially charged as other side would like to spin it. The whites who don't vote Obama, by and large, are doing so because they believe experience trumps ideas. Look at it like this:
You work hard all day in a factory. A new guy comes in and has a bunch of good ideas that sound good. You consider him intelligent and able. The first day on the job, while he's thinking about something, he cuts off his hand in an accident. That is how they see Obama. Not in racial terms, by and large. They see Clinton as the 20 year veteran of the job, who learned and learned the hard way.
I tend to agree that a few extremists out there will refuse to vote Obama due to race and even vandalize his headquarters and may make an attempt on his life. However, for actually winning the election, it won't be a major factor. In the end the experience voters will decide the new, smart guy who learned his lesson on the job is better then the one who never has learned his lesson.
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