Hundreds Of Detainees Are Drugged For Deportation »
Posted By Aidenag 1 year, 7 months ago in NewsThe U.S. government has injected hundreds of foreigners it has deported with dangerous psychotropic drugs against their will to keep them sedated during the trip back to their home country, according to medical records, internal documents and interviews with people who have been drugged.
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kboy1 year, 7 months ago
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Teagen1 year, 7 months ago
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I've had to fly from Mexico as an officer in charge of a prisoner. He was facing capitol charges and gave the MP's problems. In the end we did have to sedate him against his will. He's serving several life term at Leavenworth. Sometimes sedation may be the only option for some people. I disagree if there's no reason but if the person is being deported against his or her will and might be a danger, then it's safer to do that.
I'm kind of questioning the reporting. They claims it was given to many people with no history of violence. To fly medical personal, security and the deportees, that's a whole lot of money. I don't fully buy this. Then again, this is a government operation so you never know.
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BB641 year, 7 months ago
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Walden I agree with your sentiment, if the claims in the article if they're true. However, the Washington Compost isn't known for objective or fair reporting. They've had problems with fictional stories or more accurately, creative writing. I'd really like to see all of the evidence, be it reports, records and the like. They claim they're flying prisoners, being deported with medical escorts. There has to be more to this story we're not seeing. If not, if there's not good reason to waste our more taxpayer money and risk the prisoner's lives with this stuff, then I'm with you all the way. But I'd like to see more information.
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NoSpinDave1 year, 7 months ago
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normallysilent1 year, 7 months ago
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"Repeatedly, documents describe immigration guards "taking down" a reluctant deportee to be tranquilized before heading to an airport."
That means they could be a hazard to the other passengers.
Deportation; Expulsion of an undesirable alien from a country.
That means even if you start throwing a fit.
You can walk, or you can be carried, the botton line is
See ya
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Beeboppin711 year, 7 months ago
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hamy1 year, 7 months ago
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And giving someone potentially harmful drugs against their will BEFORE they even go to the airport is OK with you? What if your mother was being deported and she was drugged and died on the flight from complications from that drug? How would you feel about this practice then? Are doctors giving these tranquilizers? Most likely not.
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MajJohn1 year, 7 months ago
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If you were a guard of someone reluctant to go home and that person had a violent history, even if he says, "I'll behave now". would it be prudent to insure we did not have to deal w/ someone who was out of control while in an aircraft? And why the sudden indignation? This has been going on under all the previous administrations and to my own knowledge since as far back as Nixon. We know the answer to that, there are those w/ agendas who wear blinders to anything that happened under Carter or Clinton. Are there abuses? Sure, in all things there are but to analyze something and only be selective in what you look at is disingenuous at best. That's why we have an over abundance of lawyers I guess. Ask not, "what have we become", rather ask, "what are we" and then you'll understand why we are viewed as we are in some corners of the world.
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Beeboppin711 year, 7 months ago
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MajJohn - "If you were a guard of someone reluctant to go home and that person had a violent history, even if he says, "I'll behave now". would it be prudent to insure we did not have to deal w/ someone who was out of control while in an aircraft?"
If there were no laws in regards to situations like this, than I would agree. However, "involuntary medication of such persons for the sole purpose of subduing them during deportation, without a court order, is not supported by any legal authority and raises ethical issues, as well."
There are laws that must be followed. One cannot decide for themselves who is "violent" or who might become "violent". Drugging detainees against their will is illegal regardless of which administration is in charge.
By the way, I didn't realize that this sort of thing was happening. Thanks to the Post and Aidenag for alerting me.
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Beeboppin711 year, 7 months ago
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Why is ICE ignoring court orders regarding immigrants? The article says:
"Eleven months later, as [Amadou Diouf] was still appealing his case and, according to his lawyers, had a court order blocking his deportation, immigration officers came for him and took him to the airport for the trip back to Senegal."
Why was ICE trying to deport an individual with court orders BLOCKING his deportation? Who authorized this act that defies a court order? Isn't that a crime as well?
It bothers me that immigrants are being drugged against their will but it really concerns me that agencies are ignoring our laws.
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Charlson1 year, 7 months ago
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But does the difference allow breaking our laws? I'm all for deportation but do it legally. Just like I'm all for wire tapping terrorist calls but, once again, do it legally. Our country is a nation of laws and when one segment of the population continually subvert the rule of law, our country is in peril, not from outside but from within our borders.
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thoughtforsale1 year, 7 months ago
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Reading this just left me speechless. How can methods like this become a kind of "standard treatment" in a civilized country? After Guantanamo and these horrible findings, what dark secrets will be brought to light next? Torture and drugging are crimes and serious violations of human rights, never mind, who commits them!
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Beeboppin711 year, 7 months ago
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thoughtforsale - "How can methods like this become a kind of "standard treatment" in a civilized country?"
There are citizens in this country who lack critical thinking skills. They promote and support these illegal activities out of fear and ignorance. They lack the foresight to see that if these practices are not kept in check, it may be used against them in the future. If we allow one agency to ignore our laws, there is nothing to stop the rest of them from doing so.
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Charlson1 year, 7 months ago
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Why do people in our government think it's okay to break laws while enforcing them? 'Do as I say and not what I do' is an attitude that invites scorn and who in their right mind would follow an idiot that had double standards, one for them and another for you? Bushbots?
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Grrr1 year, 7 months ago
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That IS the big carrot on the stick for the neo-con fascists.
The promise of the privilege of elitism.
Of course, they're so short sighted, self absorbed and ignorant of history that they don't realize that that is, in a nutshell, a very un-American ideal.
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Howtogo1 year, 7 months ago
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Interesting the article never mentioned what type of physical actions these deportees that received drugs were displaying before the drugs were administered. It did say "most deportees simply did not want to go home." If the deportees are physical in their refusals maybe the drugs are called for. I'm sure I would not want to be placed within the confines of an aircraft with a mad man or woman running up & down the isles screaming, cursing and throwing things around. The issue for me is; if they are drugged then there needs to be someone responsible for them sitting next to them in case of an emergency. I'm not sure we received all of the information we should have in this article.
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Candida1 year, 7 months ago
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Howtogo: "I'm sure I would not want to be placed within the confines of an aircraft with a mad man or woman running up & down the isles screaming, cursing and throwing things around."
You can't run up and down and throw things in shackles and handcuffs.
Those of us who read the article did receive the information. A nurse was sitting next to them, but that doesn't make the procedure legal.
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IzaBluByU1 year, 7 months ago
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I'm not gonna address this comment to anyone in particular, but I'm sure most will know. Why is it all you vain bloated p****s just love to criticize, but your heads are so far up your asses you can't see nothing but your own? Allowing liberalism a free reign in this nation is what led to all of this! You whine about what is right and then elevate the most twisted things of all. I dunno 'bout ya, but I'll take at least one for every round in my rifle..............
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IzaBluByU1 year, 7 months ago
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I'm not gonna address this comment to anyone in particular, but I'm sure most will know. Why is it all you vain bloated p****s just love to criticize, but your heads are so far up your asses you can't see nothing but your own? Allowing liberalism a free reign in this nation is what led to all of this! You whine about what is right and then elevate the most twisted things of all. I dunno 'bout ya, but I'll take at least one for every round in my rifle..............
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